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Saving Boston Rock Radio....

Re: So which band are you in?

>
> Rockpile cred. Not sure what to say of that.

So now you're a club snob as well as a local radio hater. At least I now know where you're coming from.

> The Rockpile is/was terrible, that is why nobody goes and
> they get bad bands for the most part. I went to the Paradise
> Waltham show, I seemed to have missed the Rockpile Waltham
> show because I pledged to never go there again unless I
> really needed to see a band. I am not the only one. You put
> a band on a show in Cambridge or Boston with great acts that
> have a good record of selling out shows and then you book
> the same act at a crappy Saugus cheese mall club with crap
> nu metal bands and which show do you think will sell out? Do
> you think the draw for that one band will be the same both
> nights? Not even close. Does the Rockpile do 7 nights a week
> of original music like the Middle East, TT's, Paradise, etc?
> Those are real rock clubs, not discos that hire the stations
> interns to book a local night of garbage with the one caveat
> that it gets promoted on the radio. No local bands will ever
> do well at the Rockpile unless a major is on it and even
> then. True story, I went to two shows in one night. One at
> the Rockpile with a ton of WAAF radio ads, no people there,
> then over to Goodtimes, no radio promo besides the local
> music shows and it is packed.

It's obvious you have all the answers. Congratulations. You've lost my interest.

> This is a cultural change, you are not picking up on it.
> People are still listening to rock just not on radio
> stations. It's the IPOD and MYSPACE and IM's determining
> what they listen to and end up liking. MTV killed the Radio
> Star and then the MySpace killed the numbers.

And in the 80's local music fans claimed everyone was listening to Taupier, and Maximum, and Love It To Death, and Shake The Faith, and Ultra Blue, and Axminster, and Nervous Eaters, and Straw Dogs, and Green Magnet School, and...

None of whom ever "made it". The fact remains...local music, although a great flavor, is not enough foundation upon which to build a radio station. Sorry.
Your argument just doesn't work.

> This isn't about local music agendas. It's about getting at
> least one good station for the community to listen to and
> advertise on.

But you just slammed bands and clubs who advertise on certian stations. Again, it would be nice if you actually stuck to one position. Either radio stations are bad and advertising on them is a negative, or they're not. Which is it please?

> I want a real rock and roll station that
> plays the classics which throws in the very best of indie,
> unsigned and local music. One that finds new songs that
> don't sound all sound alike. Theory of a Dead Man,
> Nickelback, Trapt, Puddle of Mudd, etc. Why go all with
> that?

Because those are the bands that sell millions of CDs, and get tons of requests. Those are the bands that appeal to the masses. This is a business. The more customers you get, the more your business is worth.

"The dumbest buy the mostest"

> Paul, I gave you four top picks that would go over in this
> market because the songs kill and the bands are interesting.

To you. Not to the masses. The masses have no idea who Waltham is. Sorry to tell you. I'm not slamming them. It's just the fact.

> Brand is created by what makes you different. All the
> stations have pretty much the same playlists. Look up thse
> songs below and play them back to back against whatever
> national new ads are up and tell us which are better. I want
> to know which new Trapt song was better than these songs.

Trapt is not my favorite band. But, they sell. And that's all that matters. Give the people what they want. They want what they know. That's how it works.

> I'll throw in another, for no charge. First rock station
> that throws them all in the rotation at once gets the
> numbers.

Prove it and I'll give you my paycheck.

> Dogfight "No Idea"
> Rocketscience song

By the way...how do you possibly attempt to present a song as worthy of airplay when you don't even know the title?

> I'm done. I read this board often to see what is going down
> in Boston radio but just wanted to put my opinion out there
> as a fan of local rock radio. If a PD does go with my picks
> and all hell breaks lose and you want me to help run your
> station, whe n your numbers go up, just give me a shout out
> here.

It will never happen. But thanks for the free consulting.
 
> When FNX was challenging and gaining share by
> playing the Mighty, Mighty Boss Tones

It's Bosstones.

and the Pixies first
> was it a loss leader or a big money machine?

WFNX has never been a big money machine.

>What about when
> WAAF dropped Godsmack first? What about when WBCN broke the
> Fools, J Geils, the Police, U2, Mission of Burma, Letters to
> Cleo first?

Everything you've typed on this subject is negated by the fact that you don't even realize that The Police are not a Boston band.

I'm officially done discussing radio with you.
 
> >What about when
> > WAAF dropped Godsmack first? What about when WBCN broke
> the
> > Fools, J Geils, the Police, U2, Mission of Burma, Letters
> to
> > Cleo first?
>
> Everything you've typed on this subject is negated by the
> fact that you don't even realize that The Police are not a
> Boston band.
>
> I'm officially done discussing radio with you.
>

..and neither is U2.

I think he knows that.
 
> *Better personalities. Charles Laquidiria made you think,
> feel, and act locally.

This is tricky, when 'BCN and 'FNX jocks are quickly becoming liner-jocks. But this is a good point. The Charles Laquidira's of the world though.. nowadays.. well, they're an acquired taste. Not "corporate approved". Too much of a risk. Blah blah blah heard it all before.

> *Quality underground, unsigned, and indie local music. It
> doesn't have to be all local/indie. Just throw it in more,
> having at least three or four locals always in regular
> rotation. The best local acts. Look for the songs. They are
> there. Carmelita's show is how I discover much of them.
> Shred's show is good as well. WAAF/WBCN/WFNX need to go a
> little deeper in their catologues playing deeper classic
> cuts (you can still play Pearl Jam but not the same 6 songs)
> and start playing Waltham, Darkbuster, Dresden Dolls, Robby
> Roadsteamer, Bleu, Beyond the Embrace, the Rudds, the Dents,
> Raymond, Rocketscience, etc. as well as some of the best
> Boston classic bands from the past. I would love to hear
> Mission of Burma, old school Bosstones, J Geils, and the
> Fools every once in awhile.

Oh, no doubt. But as has been debated at length here, that ain't gonna happen. The other thing is, people's musical tastes are so fragmented.. I'd like to see anyone sit through The Dresden Dolls to hear Beyond the Embrace. I'd like to see that Venn Diagram where those fan bases intersect. And that's why the internet works so well in a way that radio could never work. If you're into 19th century Eskimo polka you can listen to 19th century Eskimo polka to the exclusion of everything else in the world, and you can communicate with 19th century Eskimo polka fans around the globe, and you don't need something like a radio station to play it for you, when the radio station's obviously going for As Many People As They Can Possibly Reach, and so therefore isn't going to touch your Eskimo polka with a ten-foot harpoon, no matter how good it is.

> Beyond the Embrace is the metal band that tops all the
> bigger local names, they are made for radio and they have
> the street cred. The Rocketscience song with Steve Tyler of
> Aerosmith is a smash out of this world hit if I have ever
> heard one. Waltham also is a sure hit. What are these people
> waiting for?

I agree, though. "Come And Take A Ride", and that whole album... fantastic stuff. The sort of stuff everyone likes, in a good way. Heard it three years ago. Thought "these guys are going to be freakin' massive if anyone takes a chance."

> I see alot of kids from the Suburbs at shows in Boston
> and Cambridge. This last Saturday night at the Paradise big
> room for Waltham sold out at 9:30 PM while the Rudds sold
> out the smallish Lizard Lounge. Neither gets regular airplay
> and could do it again next week. People are starting to
> reward the good acts that stick it out.

The kids in the clubs don't listen to radio. Radio abandoned them long ago. XM and the internet and MP3 players and MySpace filled the void. And then rock radio, in its infinite wisdom, realised that people had more options and liked the variety available in other media... and ran the other f***ing way, tightening their playlists and only playing "Staind-and-bands-that-sound-like-Staind". The lid was already shut, and rock radio said "here, let me help you with that hammer."
 
> I'm a fan, and I have a right to express my opinion. Having
> Rocketscience in for the signing is my point! Programming
> should not be only about listening to money bands. It has to
> be about finding the best songs! Signed or unsigned,if they
> didn't get that deal, you know they wouldn't have been there
> on the morning show.

Wasn't the morning show. Man, you're 0-for-the-century tonight.


The fact that the song is KILLER is a
> lucky break for us all. The Steve Tyler bit sells your
> audience and the song is a SMASH HIT when it finally gets
> regular airplay.

No. The Steven Tyler bit is a novelty that actually sells the point that the band needs to ride the coattails of a legend to get any interest at all. It does more damage than good when assessing the band to be honest.

> You say I can't make up my mind. You post that the stations
> know what they are doing in rock but seem to have speculated
> in posts here that WBCN is going to go sports while others
> talk of having FNX go Latin.

WBCN is definately the subject of possible format flipping. Any station that loses their ace is going to reconsider it's positioning. Doesn't mean it will happen.

> I listened to two songs on your show on my short ride today
> and I liked them. Did you pick those? You maverick.

Now we resort to name-calling. The sign of the defeated.


> You talked about the lifespan of the stations. FNX is doing
> poorly. BCN ratings are not what they once were because they
> abandoned and sold themselves out over the years. The Rumble
> still rules but that is it. They used to play local bands.
> They used to have local entertaining people that went out to
> shows and got crazy. Long gone with the ratings. Traded in
> for a River Rave boobfest that got cancelled. WAAF is mostly
> boring. Right wing rock radio. yawn. I could deal with a nut
> like Ozone but now it is College Republicans and jocks that
> give us jocks a bad name.

We have exactly one Conservative Republican on the air. And I challenge you to identify yourself. You think we give "us jocks" a bad name. Feel free to identify yourself.

> My also 30 something brother
> doesn't listen anymore either. He is not a local music
> person but he used to listen to Ozone and O&A, WBCN. He is
> all WEEI and WBZ now. I used to listen to rock radio alot.
> Paul you are not the problem. I tune in to your show. But
> the music isn't there. I hear a great new Type O song for
> like one spin then a million of the crap. I'm not out to
> bury you, just remind you that for the fans of local radio,
> it is about the songs and local personalities like yourself.
> Dogfight shouldn't have gotten chosen for that Staid clone
> of a song.

THEY chose it. Because they don't have a label, or any A&R people to work them. So, we played what they asked us to play. And guess what? It's a really good song. They're a really good band. But, not enough people are interested at a level that demands that they occupy the space that Green Day currently owns. Sorry. It's just the way it is.

> It was a no brainer. I put that cd in front of a 6
> year old or a 90 year old and they pick "No Idea" 9 out 10
> times.

Prove it. I contend that you cannot. And therefore it's your opinion. And you're entitled to it.

>
> WBCN once had numbers because they picked unknown acts with
> the right song and made them stars. WAAF did it with
> Disturbed and Godsmack. It isn't happening now. Labels or no
> labels, it has to be about better songs. Throw out the
> formulas and don't try to decide which of the unsigned acts
> is the most money type band. It's about good songs. Find
> them and people will come back. We are dying for it.

I'll agree with you that there's a wealth of bad music in the radio these days. But, until someband that's worth a damn comes along and lights up the masses...you're stuck with what you got. Sad truth.

> I guess I am more mainstream but that is what most of us
> want that are fans of new music. We want to relive the
> experience of finding Van Halen, Led Zeppellin, etc. But we
> no longer want to hear those same songs from the catalogue.

Buy Porcupine Tree CDs...you'll love them


> Paul what do you like? You have to be close to my age. You
> are not that different than some of your older listeners who
> want to bring back the rock of Boston and see the kids get
> something a little more real. I'm trying to give you some
> ammo to take to PD's and you give me crap. I don't get it.

I'm not giving you crap. I'm telling you that your argument has been made. It lost. It was made again, and lost. And it was made again...and lost. It's the way things are. I'm not saying I agree with it. I'm saying it is what it is. Deal with it. If radio fails at what it's doing, it will have to re-invent itself. It's that simple.

> Don't you want a better show? Do you really buy the music
> they are playing is the best that is available to get you
> listeners?

Nope. But I'm not the boss. I play what the audience of WAAF wants to hear. It's not my fault they want what you hear. I spike some stuff in all the time to try to get people interested. Sometimes it works...other times..not so much.

>If they added oe less Godsmack spin and added a
> new local band with a killer song would it really hurt you?
> I know I would listen more. Listening for the new song. Key
> on "KILLER SONG".

Wish there was one out there right now. But, there just isn't

Sorry...
 
Troll Mode = On

> I'm done. I read this board often to see what is going down
> in Boston radio but just wanted to put my opinion out there
> as a fan of local rock radio. If a PD does go with my picks
> and all hell breaks lose and you want me to help run your
> station, whe n your numbers go up, just give me a shout out
> here.

Wait, I though you were just an ordinary mortal who "found" this board and had some thoughts. Now you want credit for the next couple of ratings books? Are you insane?

> People can say all they want about Ed but he used to listen
> for the songs. I may not like everything but I liked that he
> was a fan of exposing new music and would listen to people
> like me that were passionate about the songs and would just
> as often find the great new song or band himself. Always had
> something new and unexpected, even if it wasn't for airplay.
> But if it is was, the song would work. It is to bad, the
> other things that went down to ruin it. WBCN had a good run.
> Now it's just another cookie cutter playlist station in
> Boston.

About Ed? Ha, that's really all your posts have been about. Defending an indefensible legacy.
 
> > >What about when
> > > WAAF dropped Godsmack first? What about when WBCN broke
> > the
> > > Fools, J Geils, the Police, U2, Mission of Burma,
> Letters
> > to
> > > Cleo first?
> >
> > Everything you've typed on this subject is negated by the
> > fact that you don't even realize that The Police are not a
>
> > Boston band.
> >
> > I'm officially done discussing radio with you.
> >
>
> ..and neither is U2.
>
> I think he knows that.

Oh I know. But this was originally about playing unsigned, indie, and local bands.

The Police were on one of the biggest labels of the day. But, he/she continues to make themself look foolish with some of their assertions.
 
> > I guess I am more mainstream but that is what most of us
> > want that are fans of new music. We want to relive the
> > experience of finding Van Halen, Led Zeppellin, etc. But we
> > no longer want to hear those same songs from the
> > catalogue.
>
> Buy Porcupine Tree CDs...you'll love them

Hey Paul, I wanted to thank you for turning me on to Porcupine Tree on one of your Road Rage segments. While I have since realize they are not a "new" band, it certainly was a real pleasure to find some quality rock that was new to my jaded ears and didn't conform to some existing formula. And on a mainstream radio station at prime drive time, no less! Keep up the good work.
 
> > When FNX was challenging and gaining share by
> > playing the Mighty, Mighty Boss Tones
>
> It's Bosstones.
>
> and the Pixies first
> > was it a loss leader or a big money machine?
>
> WFNX has never been a big money machine.
>
> >What about when
> > WAAF dropped Godsmack first? What about when WBCN broke
> the
> > Fools, J Geils, the Police, U2, Mission of Burma, Letters
> to
> > Cleo first?
>
> Everything you've typed on this subject is negated by the
> fact that you don't even realize that The Police are not a
> Boston band.
>
> I'm officially done discussing radio with you.
>

You are such a smart man, I just realized the Police were from England not New England. Oh no. And U2 is from Ireland. I thought they were from Boston, too. No kidding. What a brain you are. How do you keep track of it all?
 
> > >What about when
> > > WAAF dropped Godsmack first? What about when WBCN broke
> > the
> > > Fools, J Geils, the Police, U2, Mission of Burma,
> Letters
> > to
> > > Cleo first?
> >
> > Everything you've typed on this subject is negated by the
> > fact that you don't even realize that The Police are not a
>
> > Boston band.
> >
> > I'm officially done discussing radio with you.
> >
>
> ..and neither is U2.
>
> I think he knows that.
>

Wow, we have a winner here. Thanks.
 
Re: Troll Mode = On

> > I'm done. I read this board often to see what is going
> down
> > in Boston radio but just wanted to put my opinion out
> there
> > as a fan of local rock radio. If a PD does go with my
> picks
> > and all hell breaks lose and you want me to help run your
> > station, whe n your numbers go up, just give me a shout
> out
> > here.
>
> Wait, I though you were just an ordinary mortal who "found"
> this board and had some thoughts. Now you want credit for
> the next couple of ratings books? Are you insane?
>
> > People can say all they want about Ed but he used to
> listen
> > for the songs. I may not like everything but I liked that
> he
> > was a fan of exposing new music and would listen to people
>
> > like me that were passionate about the songs and would
> just
> > as often find the great new song or band himself. Always
> had
> > something new and unexpected, even if it wasn't for
> airplay.
> > But if it is was, the song would work. It is to bad, the
> > other things that went down to ruin it. WBCN had a good
> run.
> > Now it's just another cookie cutter playlist station in
> > Boston.
>
> About Ed? Ha, that's really all your posts have been about.
> Defending an indefensible legacy.
>

Lighten up Frances. Smile. It will be ok.

Off to work to make money to not advertise on the crap rock radio.

I am not here to defend that. Just saying I kind of miss the station that took a few more chances than the others. I am glad the bad stuff is being shown to light. Clean it up as much as possible until the next crackdown. I know how it goes. So be it.
 
> > > >What about when
> > > > WAAF dropped Godsmack first? What about when WBCN
> broke
> > > the
> > > > Fools, J Geils, the Police, U2, Mission of Burma,
> > Letters
> > > to
> > > > Cleo first?
> > >
> > > Everything you've typed on this subject is negated by
> the
> > > fact that you don't even realize that The Police are not
> a
> >
> > > Boston band.
> > >
> > > I'm officially done discussing radio with you.
> > >
> >
> > ..and neither is U2.
> >
> > I think he knows that.
>
> Oh I know. But this was originally about playing unsigned,
> indie, and local bands.
>
> The Police were on one of the biggest labels of the day.
> But, he/she continues to make themself look foolish with
> some of their assertions.
>


How does asking for airplay of a "good song" make me look foolish? I have talked up Rocketscience "Writers Block" I think is the name of the song. Major label, yes. I want it played not because it is signed but because it is a good song. End of story. What part did you not get about me arguing for better songs and less formula? You and I know for every 100 signed acts there is one or two that gets real airplay. I was referring to times whe bands like the Police were not getting airplay. WBCN was the 1st to play them. Just like FNX played the Pixies and Bosstones well before the other stations. Yes they were signed as well. But I am sure you knew that too. Smart guy.

Hey Paul did you go on another board a few months ago and say in all your years of radio you never saw or knew of payola. It didn't exist is what you said. Who is full of it???????
 
> How does asking for airplay of a "good song" make me look
> foolish? I have talked up Rocketscience "Writers Block" I
> think is the name of the song. Major label, yes. I want it
> played not because it is signed but because it is a good
> song. End of story.

That's your opinion. There are those who might think the song is a "terrible song". The difference is, those people might control what gets played on the radio whereas you just want to knock rock radio, and then expect it to cater to your wants. You've spent multiple posts referring to "crap radio" and saying that you don't listen. So, we're not for you. Go listen to your Rocketscience/Waltham songs and let us continue to suck as we've done for so long. Obviously, we don't know what we're doing. You have all the answers,a nd someday we'll all have to bow to your superior musical knowledge. Until then, you just sound like an unfocused fan of local/indie music that has less than zero knowledge about what we do.

>What part did you not get about me
> arguing for better songs and less formula? You and I know
> for every 100 signed acts there is one or two that gets real
> airplay.

And of those one or two...neither are being marketed for long-term artist growth. That's the way of the music world. You can adapt, or you can implode. That's the only choice.

>
> Hey Paul did you go on another board a few months ago and
> say in all your years of radio you never saw or knew of
> payola. It didn't exist is what you said. Who is full of
> it???????


I said I've never seen, nor worked for any station that engaged in the practice. I never said it didn't exist. It existed long before you and I were born. It exists now. And, it will exist long after we're gone.

Corruption exists in all big business. And make no mistake Radio is big business. That's why (sticking to the point) the idea of playing more local.indie/unsinged bands will never work. That would be about art. Radio stopped being about art on day two. It's about money.

Unsigned=unmarketable.
 
> > Buy Porcupine Tree CDs...you'll love them
>
> Hey Paul, I wanted to thank you for turning me on to
> Porcupine Tree on one of your Road Rage segments. While I
> have since realize they are not a "new" band, it certainly
> was a real pleasure to find some quality rock that was new
> to my jaded ears and didn't conform to some existing
> formula. And on a mainstream radio station at prime drive
> time, no less! Keep up the good work.
>

Thanks.

I just wish we could play them more. Every once in a while, it feels like we get a chance to break a band, in spite of the rules.

Glad you enjoy them. Some of their stuff is hard to find in the U.S. But, I've been able to snag 12 of their CDs so far and have yet to be disappointed. Hopefully, our new PD will be adventurous and let us continue to be the WAAF that breaks bands nationally.
 
Re: So which band are you in?

"But you just slammed bands and clubs who advertise on certian stations. Again, it would be nice if you actually stuck to one position. Either radio stations are bad and advertising on them is a negative, or they're not. Which is it please?"

I love local clubs, radio, and bands. I just think the booking hasn't worked at the Rockpile. If the event is at a less desirable venue and nobody wants to see the bands playing, a million dollars of promo isn't going to help. WAAF ad time is valuable. There is no walk up at that club. ZERO. Bands have to bring everyone. That was my point. I think radio advertising works. Expensive but it works if you have a good, hot product. The Rockpile local rock shows are not a hot product unless it is an occasional Sevendust with locals type gig. All locals, it simply doesn't work there. That is all. Middle East radio advertising works for local acts because it is a rock destination. Nice city walkup crowd, too. But why should I support crap when there is so many good clubs and bands? You go there for the money. I go out to see fun shows. Big difference.

Using the Waltham example. I would say they have some pull in this market. Probably as well known as an afternoon WAAF DJ. They aren't Godsmack but they are pretty well known in Eastern Mass. Recent interviews and stories in Boston Globe, Boston Herald, Boston Phoenix, Metro. WBCN and Kiss 108 airplay, FOX 25 performance, picked again for Hillman DVD soundtrack, movie with Waltham performance playing nationally on HBO just in last few weeks. Past MTV show didn't hurt either. I'ld agree no pull nationally but not locally. They have a top 10 cd right now beating the nationals at Newbury Comics chain. I think winning two Boston Music Wards for best local song helped get them known around here. The BMA's are kind of badmouthed at times but I think it is a great event where stations like WAAF and WBCN come together to celebrate local music, major label, indie and unsigned. And it works and is very successful. Howie Day's BMA performance/award helped establish him on the national stage conquering the Northeast. Godsmack past appearences and performances was an act of good will to locals that they wanted to make and I think it helped them get some more good will locally from media and fans, "they didn't forget Boston". Sully gets it. I want to hear more BMA nominee and award bands that have great songs on the air! I'm not talking crap from the worst nu metal show in town. If the stations are sponsoring it on a large level, why aren't they looking at these best bands for airplay. It makes sense. Bands like the Dresden Dolls, Bleu, Waltham, Howie Day, the top local acts. Yes some of them are signed! I don't hate major labels, just sick of hearing the same stuff force fed by guys that are getting paid to find ways to get them airplay.

Mistress Carrie has been playing the "Coin Operated Boy" track as bed music. FNX and WBCN played that one alot. I'ld like to see more of the best like that on the air.
 
> > How does asking for airplay of a "good song" make me look
> > foolish? I have talked up Rocketscience "Writers Block" I
> > think is the name of the song. Major label, yes. I want it
>
> > played not because it is signed but because it is a good
> > song. End of story.
>
> That's your opinion. There are those who might think the
> song is a "terrible song". The difference is, those people
> might control what gets played on the radio whereas you just
> want to knock rock radio, and then expect it to cater to
> your wants. You've spent multiple posts referring to "crap
> radio" and saying that you don't listen. So, we're not for
> you. Go listen to your Rocketscience/Waltham songs and let
> us continue to suck as we've done for so long. Obviously, we
> don't know what we're doing. You have all the answers,a nd
> someday we'll all have to bow to your superior musical
> knowledge. Until then, you just sound like an unfocused fan
> of local/indie music that has less than zero knowledge about
> what we do.
>
> >What part did you not get about me
> > arguing for better songs and less formula? You and I know
> > for every 100 signed acts there is one or two that gets
> real
> > airplay.
>
> And of those one or two...neither are being marketed for
> long-term artist growth. That's the way of the music world.
> You can adapt, or you can implode. That's the only choice.
>
> >
> > Hey Paul did you go on another board a few months ago and
> > say in all your years of radio you never saw or knew of
> > payola. It didn't exist is what you said. Who is full of
> > it???????
>
>
> I said I've never seen, nor worked for any station that
> engaged in the practice. I never said it didn't exist. It
> existed long before you and I were born. It exists now. And,
> it will exist long after we're gone.
>
> Corruption exists in all big business. And make no mistake
> Radio is big business. That's why (sticking to the point)
> the idea of playing more local.indie/unsinged bands will
> never work. That would be about art. Radio stopped being
> about art on day two. It's about money.
>
> Unsigned=unmarketable.
>

Still haven't listened to the Rocketscience song? I'm not really into that band but that thing is as hot as these songs, when they got released---Motley Crue's "Home Sweet Home", Bon Jovi's You Give Love a Bad Name", New Kids on the Blocks "Hanging Tough" or Godsmack's first single. None of them my favorites, but when those songs hit, they were immediate smashes, destined for more airplay after getting that first add. That song if listened to by the right programmer is a can't miss. Maybe now that they are signed it won't get pushed, released, etc. But their unsigned cd is on the shelves and has gotten local show airplay. We will see. If it gets pushed for radio, smash hit.

How many cd's did Godsmack sell while not on a major? What about the Fools who sold tens of thousands while unsigned? Annie Difranco? Brighteyes?

Talent scouts know a thousand plays will generate, so many sales. The hot acts, get more sales and spins from that initial investment. Money doesn't buy jackpot. Money with hot product equals jackpot.
 
> > > I guess I am more mainstream but that is what most of us
>
> > > want that are fans of new music. We want to relive the
> > > experience of finding Van Halen, Led Zeppellin, etc. But
> we
> > > no longer want to hear those same songs from the
> > > catalogue.
> >
> > Buy Porcupine Tree CDs...you'll love them
>
> Hey Paul, I wanted to thank you for turning me on to
> Porcupine Tree on one of your Road Rage segments. While I
> have since realize they are not a "new" band, it certainly
> was a real pleasure to find some quality rock that was new
> to my jaded ears and didn't conform to some existing
> formula. And on a mainstream radio station at prime drive
> time, no less! Keep up the good work.
>
Thanks I will look them up.
 
> > > Buy Porcupine Tree CDs...you'll love them
> >
> > Hey Paul, I wanted to thank you for turning me on to
> > Porcupine Tree on one of your Road Rage segments. While I
>
> > have since realize they are not a "new" band, it certainly
>
> > was a real pleasure to find some quality rock that was new
>
> > to my jaded ears and didn't conform to some existing
> > formula. And on a mainstream radio station at prime drive
>
> > time, no less! Keep up the good work.
> >
>
> Thanks.
>
> I just wish we could play them more. Every once in a while,
> it feels like we get a chance to break a band, in spite of
> the rules.
>
> Glad you enjoy them. Some of their stuff is hard to find in
> the U.S. But, I've been able to snag 12 of their CDs so far
> and have yet to be disappointed. Hopefully, our new PD will
> be adventurous and let us continue to be the WAAF that
> breaks bands nationally.
>

Well alright then. And Roadsteamer twice in a week live on WAAF!!!!!
 
> Still haven't listened to the Rocketscience song?

Yeah. I have, and it's just "ok". Sorry to disappoint.
 
> Some of the bands that should be every alt-rock station's
> playlist right now: Kaiser Chiefs, Nine Black Alps, Billy
> Corgan, Bob Mould, Fall Out Boy, Sleater-Kinney, Frank
> Black, Maximo Park, Bloc Party, Dead 60s, All American
> Rejects, Oasis, Dressy Bessy, Youth Group, Razorlight, and
> Teenage Fanclub.

I know I am new, but I would just like to point out that FNX has the
Kaiser Chiefs, Fall Out Boy, Bloc Party, Dead 60s, Oasis, and Razorlight on their playlist.

They've also featured Maximo Park and Waltham.

The played the hell out of the Dresden Dolls in 04, into this year, and have kept them in regular rotation. In fact, DD headlined their Best Music Poll (Landsdowne) this Year. The other major acts included the Kaiser Chiefs and Dear Leader (from Boston).

FNX actually puts a ton of stuff from their Sunday night shows into their regular rotation. They've been anti nu-metal since the split in 2003.

I listen to FNX all the time and wanted to give them props in a discussion like this.
 
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