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Say Bye-Bye To Hank

I didn't even know Kelsey even had a new show. This is one of the reason I just don't any new Broadcast Network shows anymore. They just don't give any of them time enough to build an audience. I like the fact that Cable networks tend to let their shows have the time to build an audience.
 
LowPayDJ said:
I didn't even know Kelsey even had a new show. This is one of the reason I just don't any new Broadcast Network shows anymore. They just don't give any of them time enough to build an audience. I like the fact that Cable networks tend to let their shows have the time to build an audience.
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More time was not needed for Kelsey's new show. It was horrible from the word "Go". Back To You was a better show for Kelsey and that one got axed by FOX last season. I agree that networks are too quick to pull the plug these days and a show like Cheers or Seinfeld would never have a chance to grow in today's climate (both shows were rating cellar dwellers their first seasons) but Hank was nothing special and was dragging down the rest of ABC's lineup which is actually very good with The Middle and Modern Family. The latter being the best freshman comedy I've seen this season.
 
Robnoxious said:
LowPayDJ said:
I didn't even know Kelsey even had a new show. This is one of the reason I just don't any new Broadcast Network shows anymore. They just don't give any of them time enough to build an audience. I like the fact that Cable networks tend to let their shows have the time to build an audience.
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More time was not needed for Kelsey's new show. It was horrible from the word "Go". Back To You was a better show for Kelsey and that one got axed by FOX last season. I agree that networks are too quick to pull the plug these days and a show like Cheers or Seinfeld would never have a chance to grow in today's climate (both shows were rating cellar dwellers their first seasons) but Hank was nothing special and was dragging down the rest of ABC's lineup which is actually very good with The Middle and Modern Family. The latter being the best freshman comedy I've seen this season.
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The show was so out of place on the lineup. First off, the laugh track. Hank had one, the rest do not. Made the show stick out like a sore thumb.

Second, the humor was more low-brow, whereas Modern Family, The Middle, and yes even Cougar Town make you think a bit.
 
Funny how on one hand a network gets raked over the coals for giving a show too long of a chance to find an audience and another network gets raked over the same coals for being too itchy with the hook.
 
You know what? I kept forgetting to watch that show. Never saw it.
They should try a new timeslot instead of canceling it.
 
And disrupt something else on the chance it works? If they're pleased with the 9 pm comedies, and it appears they are, there's no reason to put a failing show there on Wednesdays; Thursdays are working well for them; Friday is a dead zone anyway, so seeing an improvement there is exceedingly unlikely. They already have the seasonal filler scheduled for Dancing with the Stars, so that doesn't leave a place to put it.
 
imhomerjay said:
And disrupt something else on the chance it works? If they're pleased with the 9 pm comedies, and it appears they are, there's no reason to put a failing show there on Wednesdays; Thursdays are working well for them; Friday is a dead zone anyway, so seeing an improvement there is exceedingly unlikely. They already have the seasonal filler scheduled for Dancing with the Stars, so that doesn't leave a place to put it.
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They could have put it on hiatus and burned off episodes midseason, but being that Wednesday is currently the only comedy night that ABC has, I still don't know when they would air it. Tuesdays perhaps when Ted and Scrubs come back?
 
Yeziknoradio said:
You know what? I kept forgetting to watch that show. Never saw it.
They should try a new timeslot instead of canceling it.
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I watched one episode and was shocked at how bad it was. I say "shocked" because I can never understand how a successful actor who is obviously intelligent with a generally good track record would decide to get involved with such a poor product.

I had the same reaction when I saw Bob Saget's awful and amateurish new sitcom about a year ago. Neither Grammar nor Saget could possibly need the money.

I remember seeing Patrick Duffy on the Tonight Show in the 90s, who explained that the main reason he decided to do Step by Step was for a retirement nest-egg. I can understand that - Duffy was usually a co-star, and probably never earned huge money.

But Saget and Grammar must have enough money for a dozen more life-times. And this makes 2 clunkers for Grammar - the other one being that Fox show last year with Patrica Heaton.
 
And Heaton currently stars in ABC's "The Middle" - which aired right after "Hank" on Wednesdays. If that show also gets canned, Grammer and Heaton go 0-for-2!
 
The "rebus" advertisement campaign for "Hank" was apparently a microcosm of the show itself.
 
mnradiofan said:
The show was so out of place on the lineup. First off, the laugh track. Hank had one, the rest do not. Made the show stick out like a sore thumb.

Second, the humor was more low-brow, whereas Modern Family, The Middle, and yes even Cougar Town make you think a bit.
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That's a good point. Until you mentioned this about the laugh track, I hadn't really noticed that The Middle doesn't have one. So, when the really funny bits make me laugh, it's funny on its own merits... not because the writers had to remind me somebody just said something funny. Maybe that means better written comedies don't need a laugh track at all.
 
Lkeller said:
But Saget and Grammar must have enough money for a dozen more life-times. And this makes 2 clunkers for Grammar - the other one being that Fox show last year with Patrica Heaton.
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I liked both Kelsey Grammer's shows. And Bob Saget's. Cynthia Stevenson is adorable.

I will admit Melinda McGraw didn't do anything for me except look good, whereas on "The Commish" (a warm and fuzzy cop drama starring the guy from "The Shield") she was great.

But I found the show funny. Poor guy can't handle being like the rest of us.
 
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Heaton's show has been picked up for a full season.
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She picked much more wisely than Grammar. The Middle is a decent show. Compared to Hank, it's a literary masterpiece.
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I will admit, now that I've gotten to know the characters, it's my favorite new show. That status once belonged to "Hank" but only because I liked Kelsey so much.

Sue is my favorite character. Not just cute but so clumsy.
 
I didn't think Grammer was funny on 'Cheers' and he went downhill from there. Can't figure out why he lasted as long as he did. That 'Hank' was canned was no surprise to me.
 
landtuna said:
I didn't think Grammer was funny on 'Cheers' and he went downhill from there. Can't figure out why he lasted as long as he did. That 'Hank' was canned was no surprise to me.
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I'll have to dissent from that opinion. I think the Frasier Crane character was brilliant - both on Cheers, and on Frasier. That character has been cited as the second longest run of any character on television - the first being Matt Dillon on Gunsmoke. Richard Belzer's Munch character (Homicide, L&O SVU) has to be breathing down their necks.

But it's Grammar's huge success with Frasier that made me wonder why he's chosen such unworthy projects since then.
 
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landtuna said:
I didn't think Grammer was funny on 'Cheers' and he went downhill from there. Can't figure out why he lasted as long as he did. That 'Hank' was canned was no surprise to me.
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I'll have to dissent from that opinion. I think the Frasier Crane character was brilliant - both on Cheers, and on Frasier. That character has been cited as the second longest run of any character on television - the first being Matt Dillon on Gunsmoke. Richard Belzer's Munch character (Homicide, L&O SVU) has to be breathing down their necks.

But it's Grammar's huge success with Frasier that made me wonder why he's chosen such unworthy projects since then.
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I agree, except to me he's so good that I don't even notice his character's aren't as brilliant as Frasier.

I did see some reruns of "Cheers", though. I hated even the idea of that show at first, until Diane left. I had seen a few episodes but once Rebecca joined I was hooked.

So I discovered Frasier's early episodes late in the game. He just didn't seem that good. That's because I was used to the boisterous radio host with the accent.

I also saw his first episode and he was just background like those other drinkers. Then he spoke and I realized what it meant.
 
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