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saying goodbye on air

Did any of you ever work for a station in which the manager would not permit you to say goodbye to your listeners on the air? I'm assuming this is in situations in which you were voluntarily leaving, maybe for a better opportunity, and you knew you were leaving. I am not referring to situations in which there was bad blood, or you were fired.

At the only station in west Tennessee where I ever worked full time, I got a call about the third week I was working my day shift, asking about the woman I had replaced. (I suppose this caller probably thought she had been on vacation up to that time.) I simply told the caller that she had moved on to bigger and better opportunities. That seemed to satisfy the caller, who told me that I, too, would probably move on to bigger and better things, but that never really happened.

The morning guy at that station told me that he, too, had gotten a call about this same woman, saying they had heard her "sister" on another station. I don't know if she had a sister or not, but it actually was her that he had heard on that station. She was just using her real first name, rather than the name she had used with us.

When I left that station, I left the air about three days before I left the station, but that was because they wanted to break in my replacement. I knew him from when we had taken broadcasting courses together in college, and we had even worked on projects together for that class, so I had no problem with him going ahead and taking over for me.

Whenever anyone left that station, the manager not only wanted them to leave without saying goodbye, but he wanted to make sure that every promo they ever recorded was axed. This was usually not a problem, considering that such promos usually became obsolete anyway once the person left the station. Since I was the production director of that station, I was relieved that the manager did not require me to recut all the spots done by the departed individual. But usually over time, he would require me to recut them anyway. At least I didn't have to do it all at once.

At one point, a public-affairs program produced by our former news director aired about two months after she left our station. I told the PD the next day about hearing that, and he cringed when I told him. I'm not sure if the manager ever heard it or not.

I don't understand why such a strict policy against saying goodbye, because it creates confusion in the minds of listeners when someone leaves without any explanation, as I said above. However, other listeners probably never cared one way or the other, and may have never even noticed when one announcer left the station, and another one arrived to take his place. (Again, I understand not allowing disgruntled announcers to say goodbye, but they were usually removed from the air before they ever had a chance to do or say anything that would damage a station's reputation, or get them shut down by the FCC! :eek:)
 
I feel quite fortunate in that in over 20-plus years, I always did have the chance to tell the listeners good-bye. The first job that I left was due to an ownership change. I only got about 24 hours notice, but was told
that it would be OK to tell them it was my last day.

The other times I left voluntarily and always on good terms. I ended up working for one station three separate times. They left some of my promos in there for months afterwards, since it was a small station.

However, at that very same station I saw some people fired right after their air shift, with ni chance to say anything and their voices removed quickly. I guess at that station, if you left on good terms, they kept your voice. If there was bad blood, your spots/promos vanished and were recut.

I was in the same market from 1979 to 2004 and a lot of people knew me through radio. I just always tried to be as professional as possible and not do or say anything that would give the manager reason to distrust me.
At my last gig, I could see that the owner was taking the station in a disastrous direction, so I opted to retire.
Not only did I still get to say good-bye, I hired my own replacement, a friend that had worked there previously as a part-timer.

Working in radio is like riding a roller coaster, but you don't know when the ups and downs are coming!
 
First...if a jock is leaving, it makes good sense to yank him off the air a few days before he goes. You NEVER know what he may say, and he might very well trash the station and other staff members.
Second, if you fire a jock, you ALWAYS yank him off the air first. Same reason only with more motivation.

Lets not forget, no matter what your ego may be telling you, to the vast majority of listeners, you are simply a voice and they could not give a damm if a new voice steps in to replace you. a week later they will forget you were ever around (except for the occasion nutbag who also calls you five times a day) sorry...but that is the reality. if you think you are more than that to the average listener, you are fooling yourself.

This is not to say you are not important to getting rattings, but that is a whole other matter.
 
ruger22com said:
First...if a jock is leaving, it makes good sense to yank him off the air a few days before he goes. You NEVER know what he may say, and he might very well trash the station and other staff members.
Second, if you fire a jock, you ALWAYS yank him off the air first. Same reason only with more motivation.

Lets not forget, no matter what your ego may be telling you, to the vast majority of listeners, you are simply a voice and they could not give a damm if a new voice steps in to replace you. a week later they will forget you were ever around (except for the occasion nutbag who also calls you five times a day) sorry...but that is the reality. if you think you are more than that to the average listener, you are fooling yourself.

This is not to say you are not important to getting rattings, but that is a whole other matter.
Ruger, I was going to post an answer, but your response is exactly what I would say. I have been on both sides of this situation, and I could not agree more. Thanks....
 
ruger22com said:
First...if a jock is leaving, it makes good sense to yank him off the air a few days before he goes. You NEVER know what he may say, and he might very well trash the station and other staff members.
Agreed, but what is there to stop him from doing that if HE knows he is leaving, but hasn't informed anyone else yet? Yeah, sure, it could jeopardize his ability to ever work in radio again, but on the other hand, he could become the next Howard Stern! Not fair, but it happens that way sometimes!
Second, if you fire a jock, you ALWAYS yank him off the air first. Same reason only with more motivation.
I would agree with that, but in my case, I had no intention of trashing the station. In fact, I even read a news update on the air (in the place of our news director, who was busy at the moment), even though my replacement announcer had already taken over and was already working the board in the control room.
Lets not forget, no matter what your ego may be telling you, to the vast majority of listeners, you are simply a voice and they could not give a damm if a new voice steps in to replace you. a week later they will forget you were ever around (except for the occasion nutbag who also calls you five times a day) sorry...but that is the reality. if you think you are more than that to the average listener, you are fooling yourself.

This is not to say you are not important to getting rattings, but that is a whole other matter.
Interesting point about that. I was on the air in a neighboring county from the one in which I actually resided at the time. Whenever I was doing any business in the town in which we were located, no one knew who I was. I was anonymous. But my coworkers, who actually lived there, were actually small-time "superstars." Everyone in town knew them.

But in my own home county, it was kinda that way for me. I would hear, "hey, I heard you on the radio" whenever I was out and about in town.

During my "lame duck" three days at that station, when my replacement was already on the air, the program director said he had already heard from people in town mistaking him (our new guy) for one of our weekend guys at that time. So even though he was new, he was already generating a buzz.

But I will conclude this by saying that listeners to that station had what I would call "station loyalty." They stayed with the station despite the constant changes in air staff. This is unlike my mother, who had "announcer loyalty." She changed the dial to follow me around wherever I happened to be on the air at the time! ;D
 
ruger22com said:
First...if a jock is leaving, it makes good sense to yank him off the air a few days before he goes. You NEVER know what he may say, and he might very well trash the station and other staff members.

I've been debating a reply, but I really feel I should say something.

I really think "yanking" someone off the air is an action one takes if they have an adversarial relationship with talent, or have done something to provoke an outburst.

If there is respect both ways, one does not need to worry about someone trashing the station. The jock is going to want to leave on good terms knowing that our craft is one where the word of mouth can make or break a career.

On the other hand, I've seen some PDs competing for the "Pric.... er, I mean "Prince of the Week" award. Those PDs have something to worry about when it comes to releasing talent. I would suggest that if you're one of those PDs, or someone that has to always look over your shoulder, then you need to get another job.
 
Theres a story here in Boston from maybe ten years ago about a DJ who was hired away from one alternative rocker WFNX FM, Lynn to WBCN FM, Boston. This DJ who was doing overnights let the PD of WBCN come into the WFNX studio with him (Oedepus I beleive) and they trashed the station WFNX for hours until someone finally got in there and threw them out. Not a classy way to resign from a job at all! Very unprofessional, but kinda funny.
 
Douglas B. said:
ruger22com said:
First...if a jock is leaving, it makes good sense to yank him off the air a few days before he goes. You NEVER know what he may say, and he might very well trash the station and other staff members.
Second, if you fire a jock, you ALWAYS yank him off the air first. Same reason only with more motivation.

Lets not forget, no matter what your ego may be telling you, to the vast majority of listeners, you are simply a voice and they could not give a damm if a new voice steps in to replace you. a week later they will forget you were ever around (except for the occasion nutbag who also calls you five times a day) sorry...but that is the reality. if you think you are more than that to the average listener, you are fooling yourself.

This is not to say you are not important to getting rattings, but that is a whole other matter.
Ruger, I was going to post an answer, but your response is exactly what I would say. I have been on both sides of this situation, and I could not agree more. Thanks....

Times two.
 
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