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SBS Buys KROI for $7.5 million

His afternoon talk show would do well. He’d tell callers how wrong everyone is 😂
OK, let's not get carried away with the attempts at humor. Lance is the closest a site like this will get to a true "industry insider" who knows a lot of changes, filings and applications before the rest of the world does.
 
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OK, let's not get carried away with the attempts at humor. Lance is the closest a site like this will get to a true "industry insider" who knows a lot of changes, filings and applications before the rest of the world does.
Getting a little stir crazy around here while we wait to find out what format SBS launches on 92.1 as well as who the new owner and format of 97.1 will be. Lance is good at keeping a secret.🤫🤐
 
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He directly called their operations a scam and tax fraud.
With all due respect, that's not what modern day society considers "hate". That's just an accusation. Hate would be discrimination (like refusing service to someone) based on a religious belief. My opinion aside on the matter, the fact is that he isn't criticizing the religion, just the operation.
Hate defined: is an intense negative emotional response towards certain people, things or ideas usually related to opposition or revulsion toward something.

It could be you hate a certain group or people. You can hate, for example, the weather, a food and just about anything else.

Palpatine said: And whenever EMF buys a station and ruins it, that station just gets removed from my radio. There are plenty of suckers who give money to tax free scamming organizations (in response to my statement listeners support EMF financially).

In my opinion that meets the definition.
It absolutely does not. You're being histrionic and quite disingenuous with the modern-day use of the word "hate".

The fact is that there was nothing in his posts that can be considered hate. Criticizing EMF or even viewing it as a "scam" is not hate. You're simply cheapening the word "hate" because you don't like his opinion about a certain broadcaster(s). If I recall, you tried similar stunts a while back when I said religious broadcasting was not a service worthy of tax exemption.

But I digress. You could easily take his sentence and replace "EMF" with "NPR" and you wouldn't bat an eye.
 
Not to venture into the “wanna be mod” lane, but what does this back and forth bickering have to do with the future owner of KTHT or KROI? Let’s get back to nonsensical speculation instead of unnecessarily firing people up.
Too late, tb_.

You could easily take his sentence and replace "EMF" with "NPR" and you wouldn't bat an eye.
Let me stop you right there. Bill Turner is a well respected broadcast professional who has devoted decades of blood, sweat, and tears to this industry. He has managed a radio station that brokered time to individuals and groups during his career that did not necessarily align with his own viewpoint or beliefs, but he is a gentleman who has treated each of his clients with the utmost respect and dignity, and has maintained that decorum within this very forum, responding to each and every member here that has interacted with him, whether in agreement or disagreement of his views, with class and respect to whom he responds. He even continued to operate that very station, out of respect for his deceased owner's family, with no income. I can't say the same. I would very likely have walked long before he did, when the paycheck stopped coming in, but that is most certainly a direct reflection of this man's character. He would most certainly "bat an eye" if someone were to make a parallel statement under the opposing viewpoint in the manner that Palpatine did, which was in response to what I wrote. As should be pretty obvious, I don't personally care for EMF either, but every licensed broadcaster knows exactly how to stop them, and that is to outbid them. Until that happens at every attempted acquisition, they will continue to grow their ministry as they see fit. If the tax exemption is your quarrel, start your own non-profit and start taking advantage of what suddenly becomes available to you. The Foundation is not doing anything illegal, only taking advantage of what is offered to them and every other qualified non-profit.
 
Not to venture into the “wanna be mod” lane, but what does this back and forth bickering have to do with the future owner of KTHT or KROI? Let’s get back to nonsensical speculation instead of unnecessarily firing people up.
One of the "features" of this "board of boards" is its ability to "discover" underlying subjects within threads. Excessive moderation would kill that, and, I think, stifle the spontaneity of the whole proposition.
 
One of the "features" of this "board of boards" is its ability to "discover" underlying subjects within threads. Excessive moderation would kill that, and, I think, stifle the spontaneity of the whole proposition.
That’s a fair point, thanks for the added perspective.
 
One of my clients at KYND at one point was Ralph Neighbor Sr. who had a program called Morning Sunshine. Ralph knew the BBN folks well as they carried (and may still although Ralph is no longer with us) his program. He came on KYND, as he told me, because BBN felt KHCB was covering Houston quite well and the ministry chose to go where there wasn't a ministry doing their flavor of Christian programming. Things can certainly change in the years since, but based on that I can't see BBN coming to Houston.
 
RoseCityMedia: Thank you so much for the kind words.
No thanks necessary, b-turner. I don't know you personally, but I do know your reputation, and appreciate the way you interact with everyone here, have a ton of respect for the knowledge of our industry that you possess, and your willingness to teach those that don't know and want to learn. It's not in my character to just stand idle when someone unfairly attacks your good character, when I simply know better. One day, maybe we can find a halfway point between Gainesville and Tyler to meet up and have a beer, or a cup of joe. Peace to you, sir.
 
The fact is that there was nothing in his posts that can be considered hate. Criticizing EMF or even viewing it as a "scam" is not hate. You're simply cheapening the word "hate" because you don't like his opinion about a certain broadcaster(s). If I recall, you tried similar stunts a while back when I said religious broadcasting was not a service worthy of tax exemption.
That's not an opinion tolerated by the powers that be here, as I can personally attest, so I've stopped expressing it. It's their board. Deal with it, albeit reluctantly.
 
That's not an opinion tolerated by the powers that be here, as I can personally attest, so I've stopped expressing it. It's their board. Deal with it, albeit reluctantly.
I can't speak for the "powers that be", CT, but I most certainly tolerate and even agree with the opinion expressed, just not the manner in which Palpatine expressed it. This isn't the place for it, plain and simple. You are a highly intelligent individual, CT, and you know this is not the platform for such political statements. Plenty of places on the world wide web for any of us to get into a spirited debate over political fare, but this site (or at least this particular board) should not be one of them. The sniper attack on another member's character, such as was levied previously, is even less desirable, and not at all why we gather here to converse on the subject of radio and television broadcasting.
 
Let me stop you right there. Bill Turner is a well respected broadcast professional who has devoted decades of blood, sweat, and tears to this industry.
What exactly did I say that you think undermined his career? There's absolutely no need to defend anyone in a vigorous manner since no one's career has been talked about in an opprobrious manner.
That's not an opinion tolerated by the powers that be here, as I can personally attest, so I've stopped expressing it. It's their board. Deal with it, albeit reluctantly.
It is actually very well tolerated and encouraged. A while back we had a very respectful and healthy dialogue on whether religious organizations should be tax exempt. David even chimed in after a few of you complained. But since we kept the discussion around the taxation of non-profit radio operators, he allowed the discussion to flourish.

Now whether there is a small group-think mentality that is uncomfortable with having that discussion here is a different story. There seems to be a lot of proponents of religion (and/or religious broadcasters) on this board who don't want this discussion to be had. Why? I can't say. Maybe it is due to the fact that you can't work in radio without intersecting with religious broadcasting in one way, shape, or form.

BamaTX seems to feel he knows my mind.
Ironically, you're guilty of the same thing on account that you assumed Palpatine's comments were hateful. For all we know, he may simply want to help people save money or find a similar organization that may put that money to better use. You made the assumption that "hate" was on his mind.

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but I definitely would defend the same said of NPR.
In that hypothetical scenario, I highly doubt you would have used the word "hate". But I digress.
You can use whatever definition of hate you choose. I chose the dictionary so you don't have a beef with me but rather the dictionary.
Respectfully, you're choosing to shirk away from the modern day societal strength of that word.

You want to excuse yourself by quoting the literal definition, but there is no need to be duplicitous about it. The context in this scenario matters. When talking about religion, you don't use the word "hate" unless you're trying to send a strong condemnation. In our scenario of religion, the word "hate" is just as strong as calling someone a "bigot" or "prejudiced".

And all of this is besides the fact that the literal definition can't be applied to Palpatine's comments anyways. Calling something a "scam" isn't exactly hate. It's just a claim based on....well, who knows. You would need more context to come to that conclusion (which Palpatine didn't offer). We can continue to split hairs here, but deep down we all know the word "hate" was the wrong choice here. Words such as "uninformed", "wrong", or even "misguided" would have been a better fit IMO. With all due respect, "Hate" just discourages the open dialogue we should have in this board.
 
What exactly did I say that you think undermined his career? There's absolutely no need to defend anyone in a vigorous manner since no one's career has been talked about in an opprobrious manner.
You called him histrionic, which is saying he has a mental disorder affecting his thinking, his perception, and the way he relates to others. He does not. Go back and re-read his extraordinary contributions to this site from Bill Turner over the years. He exudes patience, understanding, and a willingness to teach anyone that truly wants to learn about what we do. I commend him for that. Far more patience than some around these parts show by looking down their proverbial noses at the outsiders and enthusiasts who just want to be a part of the magic, one way or another.

Now, sir, I do have a "mental disorder" and its called Aspergers, or at least it was called that when I was diagnosed as a child. Now, because society wants to sugar coat everything, it's termed AD, and I have a set of initials for that, namely WTF. I do not have an attention deficit, quite the opposite, actually. As the Waterboy's mama once said, I don't have what's called the social skills. I may hurt someone's feelings and not even realize it. You didn't attack his career, but you did his character and his respected name. I was offended for him, and therefore spoke out against your attack.
It is actually very well tolerated and encouraged. A while back we had a very respectful and healthy dialogue on whether religious organizations should be tax exempt. David even chimed in after a few of you complained. But since we kept the discussion around the taxation of non-profit radio operators, he allowed the discussion to flourish.

Now whether there is a small group-think mentality that is uncomfortable with having that discussion here is a different story. There seems to be a lot of proponents of religion (and/or religious broadcasters) on this board who don't want this discussion to be had. Why? I can't say. Maybe it is due to the fact that you can't work in radio without intersecting with religious broadcasting in one way, shape, or form.
I'm happy to have that discussion with you. Start a thread on the National part of this website, and you'll see the participant with the yellow rose avatar chiming into the conversation. I agree that everyone that receives money from listener donations, pledge drives, or even the passing of a collection plate during the Sunday morning service, should be taxed accordingly. That includes, EMF, PBS, NPR, and on and on and on. I don't care on which side of the political or religious spectrum your "non-profit" operates, if you are hustling money from your followers, you need to pay taxes on that inflow of money. However, this particular thread, within the Houston forum, is not the place to have that discussion, and I've already spoken too much on the subject now.
Ironically, you're guilty of the same thing on account that you assumed Palpatine's comments were hateful. For all we know, he may simply want to help people save money or find a similar organization that may put that money to better use. You made the assumption that "hate" was on his mind.

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In that hypothetical scenario, I highly doubt you would have used the word "hate". But I digress.

Respectfully, you're choosing to shirk away from the modern day societal strength of that word.

You want to excuse yourself by quoting the literal definition, but there is no need to be duplicitous about it. The context in this scenario matters. When talking about religion, you don't use the word "hate" unless you're trying to send a strong condemnation. In our scenario of religion, the word "hate" is just as strong as calling someone a "bigot" or "prejudiced".

And all of this is besides the fact that the literal definition can't be applied to Palpatine's comments anyways. Calling something a "scam" isn't exactly hate. It's just a claim based on....well, who knows. You would need more context to come to that conclusion (which Palpatine didn't offer). We can continue to split hairs here, but deep down we all know the word "hate" was the wrong choice here. Words such as "uninformed", "wrong", or even "misguided" would have been a better fit IMO. With all due respect, "Hate" just discourages the open dialogue we should have in this board.
The only hairs being split is by your own razor. Palpatine's message was apparently taken by most here, exactly as it was intended. If you can't read between lines, as to the intent of his words, that is your own blindness. I saw it, but chose not to respond to it, as it was a pretty classless thing to say, and quite frankly, unworthy of a response. You seem to want people like Bill Turner to bend and reconstruct their vocabulary to appease you and your feelings, or fall in line with your "modern" way of thinking. All I can say in response is good luck with that, sir. You may wish to visit Fort Cavazos near Killeen, see a football game at Rose Stadium in east Texas, between the Tyler Lions and the Legacy Red Raiders, or traverse down Emancipation Avenue en route to an Astros baseball game in Houston, but Texans like us will always refer to them as Fort Hood, the John Tyler Lions and Robert E. Lee Rebels, and Dowling Street, respectively. The history will only die when we do.
 


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