Schultz and Malloy return to 167

[livingfruitvirus]

The week after this coming, both shows will return to XM167. Ed currently airs on Extreme 152 in 2 hour-long taped pieces daily, but the show will air live from 12-3ET on 167 replacing departing Al Franken. No word on Mike's timeslot.

 

[multiplex]

Interesting, since XM has been making noises since November about 167 being the Progressive Channel. (Originally in reference to Left Jab, now on XMPR 133.)
I think this is both good and bad news. It'll be good to have Molloy back on 167, especially if he's carried live from 9 to midnight Eastern, although I'll miss hearing Jon Elliott on Air America.
The bad news is that we're probably never going to hear Thom Hartmann live, and he's an outstanding host who, in my view, is one of the most intelligent and well-read people in the talk radio field.
I'm all for Schultz being live, but unlike Sirius, XM seems to feel that there should be one liberal channel, but it's okay to have several conservative shows competing.
Assuming XM doesn't op to carry Lionel at night, I'm hoping we'll at least have the Thom Hartmann replays from midnight to 3 a.m. Eastern, but really, he should be carried live and so should Schultz, on different channels.
I'd prefer an Air America channel and another for other syndicated liberal hosts, but I doubt that they'll do it.
Yet they're fine with conservatives on 124 from ABC, often competing with others on the right on 165 and 166, plus Fox news-talk 168 (except for Alan Colmes.) Oh, and there's WLW on 173, whose hosts all lean to the right. Balance, guys, balance.
Yes, I do realize that some of the channels I'm referencing are programmed by Clear Channel.

 

[WNCRadioFan]

I agree, I'd love to see a 2nd channel with the likes of maybe Bill Press,Stephanie Miller,etc. As it is now I have to switch back and forth between XM,Sirius and my local progressive talker.

 

[livingfruitvirus]

I'm all for Schultz being live, but unlike Sirius, XM seems to feel that there should be one liberal channel, but it's okay to have several conservative shows competing.
Assuming XM doesn't op to carry Lionel at night, I'm hoping we'll at least have the Thom Hartmann replays from midnight to 3 a.m. Eastern, but really, he should be carried live and so should Schultz, on different channels.
I'd prefer an Air America channel and another for other syndicated liberal hosts, but I doubt that they'll do it.
Yet they're fine with conservatives on 124 from ABC, often competing with others on the right on 165 and 166, plus Fox news-talk 168 (except for Alan Colmes.) Oh, and there's WLW on 173, whose hosts all lean to the right. Balance, guys, balance.
Yes, I do realize that some of the channels I'm referencing are programmed by Clear Channel.

Sirius only has one liberal talker too: Sirius Left. They also carry Fox News Talk and ABC News & Talk, and they have their conservative talk channel Sirius Patriot (I'm surprised the left-leaning one isn't called Sirius Traitor. Sheesh.). As for Talk Radio 165, the morning and mid-day shows lean right, but then you have the nighttime hosts who don't so much, like Rollye James who is libertarian, and George Noory and Art Bell. Also, it seems whenever I tune in to XMPR, it's more left leaning than right.

It's not really easy to balance the two sides. There's far more conservative talkers in radio than there are liberal talkers, so there's more likely less unlistenable conservative talkers than liberals.

I agree, I'd love to see a 2nd channel with the likes of maybe Bill Press,Stephanie Miller,etc. As it is now I have to switch back and forth between XM,Sirius and my local progressive talker.

At least you have a local option. Ours got swallowed up by gospel. Malloy no longer has a flagship.

 

[buttonpuncher]

So what you're saying is happening is 167 will no longer be "Air America" full-time but will now be XM's cherry picked Left programming? (I thought Thom Hartmann was replacing Franken on AAR)

I'm also disappointed in the out of balance of Left/Right programming choices too, you can hear the Right-wing programming in just about any given area on terrestrial radio. I wish "Democracy Now!" was available somewhere on Sat Radio too.

Got an email from Sirius this morning and see they're dropping C-Span which is one of my favs on XM. Sirius seems to try to attract with gimmicks, "The Who" Channel? seems a waste to have a channel playing only one artist, and I saw they're adding a Frank [Sinatra] Channel

 

[livingfruitvirus]

So what you're saying is happening is 167 will no longer be "Air America" full-time but will now be XM's cherry picked Left programming? (I thought Thom Hartmann was replacing Franken on AAR)

I'm also disappointed in the out of balance of Left/Right programming choices too, you can hear the Right-wing programming in just about any given area on terrestrial radio. I wish "Democracy Now!" was available somewhere on Sat Radio too.

Got an email from Sirius this morning and see they're dropping C-Span which is one of my favs on XM. Sirius seems to try to attract with gimmicks, "The Who" Channel? seems a waste to have a channel playing only one artist, and I saw they're adding a Frank [Sinatra] Channel

The Siriusly Sinatra channel is just a branding, like Shade 45, or Willie's Place. As for WCSP, you can listen on XM or via the internet, or locally on FM if you live in Washington, DC. Seems Sirius' gimmicks work, though.

 

[multiplex]

The initial mention of this plan for 167 was a promo on XMPR saying that after the holidays, Left Jab would move to channel 167, which I presume will also happen soon.
This takes us back to the pre-2006 days when 167 would pre-empt AA for Allan Colmes, pre-empting the live airing of Mike Malloy, which was delayed on XM by three hours.
Yes, it was announced that Hartman would replace Franken on AA. But will we get Thom Hartmann? Nope, he'll get pre-empted by Schultz (Twice), according to the promo that's currently airing. Schultz will also air when Hartmann is replayed. I am not pleased. At least there are online feeds I can go to, but I shouldn't have to.
By the way, I think it was buttonpuncher who said that Malloy no longer has a flagship.
We may be splitting hairs here, but Malloy is on the Nova M network, and their flagship is KPHX, Phoenix, which streams on the Internet (aaphx.com or novamradio.com.)
That network also distributes Peter B. Collins, who should also be heard on XM but isn't.

 

[livingfruitvirus]

Yes, it was announced that Hartman would replace Franken on AA. But will we get Thom Hartmann? Nope, he'll get pre-empted by Schultz (Twice), according to the promo that's currently airing. Schultz will also air when Hartmann is replayed. I am not pleased. At least there are online feeds I can go to, but I shouldn't have to.

Shouldn't have to? They're not obligated to carry the programs you like. That's like if I said I shouldn't have to listen to the online stream of the Jim Rome show because XM doesn't carry him.

By the way, I think it was buttonpuncher who said that Malloy no longer has a flagship.
We may be splitting hairs here, but Malloy is on the Nova M network, and their flagship is KPHX, Phoenix, which streams on the Internet (aaphx.com or novamradio.com.)

I said that. He's based out of Atlanta, and used to be heard on WWAA in Atlanta when he was part of Air America, but that station flipped to gospel music.

 

[PaulO]

Yes, it was announced that Hartman would replace Franken on AA. But will we get Thom Hartmann? Nope, he'll get pre-empted by Schultz (Twice), according to the promo that's currently airing. Schultz will also air when Hartmann is replayed. I am not pleased. At least there are online feeds I can go to, but I shouldn't have to.

Shouldn't have to? They're not obligated to carry the programs you like. That's like if I said I shouldn't have to listen to the online stream of the Jim Rome show because XM doesn't carry him.

By the way, I think it was buttonpuncher who said that Malloy no longer has a flagship.
We may be splitting hairs here, but Malloy is on the Nova M network, and their flagship is KPHX, Phoenix, which streams on the Internet (aaphx.com or novamradio.com.)

I said that. He's based out of Atlanta, and used to be heard on WWAA in Atlanta when he was part of Air America, but that station flipped to gospel music.

We don't know what will happen with Air America. I'm not saying it will go away by any means; But there's bound to be some changes. It isn't set in stone that Steven Green will be the new owner. I understand that there will be an auction on Friday and a hearing later.

I'm ready for them to replace Sam what's his name with Stepheny Miller tommorrow.

 

[multiplex]

Maybe my writing was more obvious to me than anyone else. When I say I "shouldn't have to" look elsewhere for an AA feed of a show, I mean that I don't like the cherry-picking approach.
If XM fundamentally carries Air America programming, which I concede they don't _have_ to do, I'd rather they carry all of it than cherry-pick it, although AA has made some dumb programming decisions which may have led to it.
A "progressive channel" umbrella is just as undesirable to me as it would be if they had a "news channel" which carried CNN but pre-empted Lou Dobbs for Shepherd Smith on Fox.
My feelings would have nothing to do with Smith's talent or XM's obligations. They'd be connected to programming and whether my subscription is worth maintaining.

 

[buttonpuncher]

I agree, if they are going to carry AAR, carry it, at least the first/live run of every program. Remember XM signed an exclusive agreement with AAR which took them off of Sirius (back when I had Sirius). There may be more to that deal than I remember, and that contract may be expired for one reason or another.

XM used to carry Schultz on their cherry-picked “Talk Radio” channel. If XM wants to have a channel they run a collection of talkers on that’s fine with me, just hope they carry some from the Left side, sure is needed to even begin to approach an overall balance.

 

[livingfruitvirus]

I agree, if they are going to carry AAR, carry it, at least the first/live run of every program. Remember XM signed an exclusive agreement with AAR which took them off of Sirius (back when I had Sirius). There may be more to that deal than I remember, and that contract may be expired for one reason or another.

XM used to carry Schultz on their cherry-picked “Talk Radio” channel. If XM wants to have a channel they run a collection of talkers on that’s fine with me, just hope they carry some from the Left side, sure is needed to even begin to approach an overall balance.

The Talk Radio channel, along with Extreme where Ed currently is, is programmed by Clear Channel. They used to play Ed's whole show live on 165, but ended up bumping it over to Extreme 152 and breaking the show into two hour long chunks that got played at 4 PM and midnight, to make room for more Clear Channel produced talk shows. Even though they carry some third party programming, Clear Channel prefers to program its own talk shows onto XM most of the time, because CC doesn't pay its hosts anything to be on XM.

 

[JimmyJames]

I don't get the excitement of Malloy. He's one of the driest talkers I've ever listened to. His WLS predecessor Jay Marvin was much more entertaining.