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Seattle Area LPFM Applications

I would think you are right. Knowing small-town radio, there might be an advertiser there, like a Farmer's agent or something. It's only 3 watts.
 
There were a few local advertisers up there...Macabee's Gifts, Star Rentals (when it was there), a restaurant or two...I'd have to check current local breaks to see who advertises up there. But KXLE's 60dbu is one of the few strong FMs there, and the upper county is growing. 2,500 in Cle Elum/South Cle Elum and nearly a thousand in Roslyn.
I know there were plans to expand Suncadia into a village center, with lots of stores/restaurants...but that hasn't fruited out yet.
 
crainbebo said:
There were a few local advertisers up there...Macabee's Gifts, Star Rentals (when it was there), a restaurant or two...I'd have to check current local breaks to see who advertises up there. But KXLE's 60dbu is one of the few strong FMs there, and the upper county is growing. 2,500 in Cle Elum/South Cle Elum and nearly a thousand in Roslyn.
I know there were plans to expand Suncadia into a village center, with lots of stores/restaurants...but that hasn't fruited out yet.
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It would be interesting to see the demographics on the growth. I would guess it might be like Chelan -- a lot of wealthy boomers and Xers from west of the Cascades. Who probably use the internet and streaming services instead of local, Kittitas County radio.
 
crainbebo said:
There were a few local advertisers up there...Macabee's Gifts,
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Has mostly gone online for advertising—Esty, Facebook, and alike.
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Star Rentals (when it was there),
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Star never really bought much advertising but did occasional trade deals.
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a restaurant or two.
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Restaurants are notoriously poor payers mainly because their business model is worse than radio. Unless you sell them spots for literally a dollar each, which doesn't pay for your fuel to visit them, they'll likely go out of business before you're able to collect.
crainbebo said:
But KXLE's 60dbu is one of the few strong FMs there, and the upper county is growing. 2,500 in Cle Elum/South Cle Elum and nearly a thousand in Roslyn.
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See my comments above. CleElum, Ellensburg, and Roslyn are essentially the same market. I guess the difference is; Roslyn has no viable radio advertisers there.
crainbebo said:
I know there were plans to expand Suncadia into a village center, with lots of stores/restaurants...but that hasn't fruited out yet.
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Suncadia never recovered from the 2008 recession. People who paid $300K for postage stamp lots have either defaulted or are holding on to their memberships hoping that someday the economy in that area will recover enough to at least make their investment back. If the place hasn't recovered in fifteen years, its a sure bet that it likely never will.
 
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Isn't that what KSER is trying to do? Or even KBCS? However, we've seen it over the last several years - volunteer DJing is on the decline. Some high schools and colleges have ceased their radio broadcasting classes for those reasons. So a new surge of LPFMs is counterintuitive in many markets. Meanwhile, there's a CP for a 98.3 in Ellensburg that will be operated by a non-profit arts foundation. Seattle is saturated with radio, but Ellensburg isn't. KXLE is completely satellite-based now, and the only local voice is KCWU. The 98.3 would be a nice addition to the dial there as long as they can get a schedule of volunteers and local programming.
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I can assure you that KXLE is NOT satellite. Geez, crainbebo, it WAS, but isn't. Cite your source...
 
My correction. I do know that Penny Mitchell is on there and I believe she originates from Westwood One, I could be wrong. Penny's show airs on a bunch of country stations around the country. But she (and other DJs) will do some pre-recorded 'localized' drops for weather forecasts. There are local news updates at 7 and 8am. I will have to listen again. Things sound a little different at KXLE since Steve Scellick retired.

Almost like what several of the Positive Life Radio DJs are like...or our own Paul Walker (at least for KLMI) They are syndicated and voicetrack local segments in advance for multiple stations across the country. Ceci LaBarge does middays at PLR and I believe she originates from Michigan. Jerry Woods on weekends pre-records from WGTS in DC. And Dave Arthur, who just retired from KTSY in Boise, voicetracks the morning show with his wife for KEEH Spokane and the afternoon shift for PLR.
 
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crainbebo said:
My correction. I do know that Penny Mitchell is on there and I believe she originates from Westwood One, I could be wrong. Penny's show airs on a bunch of country stations around the country. But she (and other DJs) will do some pre-recorded 'localized' drops for weather forecasts. There are local news updates at 7 and 8am. I will have to listen again. Things sound a little different at KXLE since Steve Scellick retired.

Almost like what several of the Positive Life Radio DJs are like...or our own Paul Walker (at least for KLMI) They are syndicated and voicetrack local segments in advance for multiple stations across the country. Ceci LaBarge does middays at PLR and I believe she originates from Michigan. Jerry Woods on weekends pre-records from WGTS in DC. And Dave Arthur, who just retired from KTSY in Boise, voicetracks the morning show with his wife for KEEH Spokane and the afternoon shift for
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Update, Penny Mitchell is no longer on KXLE, and Westwood One has been terminated. KXLE is no longer using satellite feeds. To be fair, this was a recent decision. Is it 24/7 live? Of course not. Voice-tracking has been used for at least 50 years. I cite WGTR, Natick, MA as an example. Then was with reel-to-reel and cart machines, now it's with audio files. Then it was rare, today it's much more common than one would think, and much easier to do. Virtually all commercial music-based radio stations utilize voice-tracking some of or most of the time. Even Westwood One hasn't been live for several years. When they began implementig VT, they called it "near real time".

Many stations that have a live/local morning show use VT as a backup when the talent needs to work from home for a day due to weather or other issues.

Next up, figure out a way to voice-track a talk show...LOL
 
Recent decision...I need to wake up and listen to them more! KXLE only makes it on northern slopes of the hills here and in Selah. I mostly listen to CCM or classic hits, but if KXLE has changed for the better, more power to them!
 
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Recent decision...I need to wake up and listen to them more! KXLE only makes it on northern slopes of the hills here and in Selah. I mostly listen to CCM or classic hits, but if KXLE has changed for the better, more power to them!
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You do know who owns KXLE now, right @crainbebo .. after a mid summer 2023 sale?
 
crainbebo said:
Recent decision...I need to wake up and listen to them more! KXLE only makes it on northern slopes of the hills here and in Selah. I mostly listen to CCM or classic hits, but if KXLE has changed for the better, more power to them!
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Even better, maybe stop making assumptions about how radio stations are run without actual knowledge or experience.
 
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Yesterday while driving on I-5 north of the Military Road exit in Sea Tac, modulated silence came up on 95.3, but there's nothing in the FCC database for a new station. Someone is experimenting on it.
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What in tarnation is "modulated silence"?
 
It appears the applications that originally started this thread have both been dismissed. The application for 88.9 was dismissed on grounds of not having an incorporated nonprofit, and the 92.9 was dismissed for not having the waiver request for second adjacent shortspacing.
 
bobdavcav said:
It appears the applications that originally started this thread have both been dismissed. The application for 88.9 was dismissed on grounds of not having an incorporated nonprofit, and the 92.9 was dismissed for not having the waiver request for second adjacent shortspacing.
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Cue Nelson; HA HA!
 
More people who want to play radio, without thoroughly knowing the rules or how to find an attorney or other knowledgeable person to advise them on the rules.
 
I have always advocated leaving the filing to the pros and to buy a new transmitter. When I formed my non-profit, I had it professionally written so that it needed no modification to earn a 501c3 status once we got going. Sure, I could have filed myself but I might have missed something (and likely would have) and that's why you go to a professional.
 
Surprise! Surprise! The FCC today granted 102.3 in Anacortes to the Anacortes Music Project. Despite being close to the Canadian border and on a crowded dial, the application did not contain any technical study. Still, the FCC must have thought this new LPFM was in the best interest of the community.
 
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