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Seattle LPFM roundup

Here in Bonney Lake WA, I can barely receive 92.9. Depending on where I am, sometimes it's Classic Rock KISM Bellingham, other times I think it's KVNW Napavine. Hard to say because they don't do the traditional TOH ID. I would describe KNVW as Oldies, as it claims to play the history of rock & roll from 1955 to 1989. I must say that I am intrigued with KVNW. Talk about a broad playlist! I don't believe I have ever heard a commercial yet. I wonder if it will stick around.
 
I don't believe the Napavine station is on the air. It has been involved in a bitter and epic dispute for a number of years with a local broadcaster in the Centralia market. You are likely gearing the Olympia translator mentioned upthread.
 
I don't believe the Napavine station is on the air. It has been involved in a bitter and epic dispute for a number of years with a local broadcaster in the Centralia market. You are likely gearing the Olympia translator mentioned upthread.

I am not in the radio business so I'm a bit confused. Post #52 referred to K225DC but when I clicked on that link, via RadioStationWorld.com, it went to a talk station, 920 KGTK. Post #53 referred to a "Brian Spencer" translator that I cannot find on any website. What is that?
 
Yesterday the FCC released a list of those stations that did not file for renewals.

KYNR TOPPENISH, WA CONFEDERATED TRIBES AND BANDS OF THE YAKAMA NATION
That will be a devastating loss to the Yakama Nation. 1490 may have not had a good website or a stream, but they have birthday greetings, local Yakama Tribal School sports coverage, Native Voice One news, and a huge playlist of 1950s-2000s pop/rock with lots of Powwow chants in between. I hope they will get the license renewal in before 2/1. KYNR is a station that must be saved.
 
^^^^^ I wonder if they have revenue problems? Very sad if KYNR leaves the air, as the station serves that community.


Theres also the possibility they forgot.

Unforunately, sometimes stations in the cases of some school and organizations whos business isnt media have someone running it who was trained well.. but isnt a radio person and doesnt know every single nook n cranny or every single in and out.
 
Seems they did file a renewal but the FCC dismissed it on 11/13/2021. I did notice that last time they filed late (2016) and the FCC issued them a FORFEITURE ORDER. In this Forfeiture Order, we issue a monetary forfeiture in the amount of one thousand, five hundred dollars ($1,500) to Confederated Tribes and Bands of the Yakama Nation (Licensee), licensee of Station KYNR(AM), Toppenish, Washington (Station), for willfully violating Section 73.3539 of the FCC rules (Rules) by failing to timely file a license renewal application for the Station. They have been late filing every renewal.
https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/pubacc/prod/corrp_list.pl?Facility_id=24586
 
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FWIW, KVSU-LP, Rainier Valley Radio, doesn't appear to be on the air, although their website seems to still be active. I used to be able to hear them quite readably on my Grundig G2 (probably my best FM radio) and over the past few days I hear static and maybe some intermod/splatter. But no signal or programming.
On the way in to work this morning and yesterday morning I heard KVRU-LP (correct call letters) loud and clear on most of my drive through Seattle with their usual programming and several ID's. So I can verify that this station is on.
I'll add some news on KXSU-LP 102.1. They have picked up the Seattle University men's basketball games this season, which had previously been on 770 AM. You'd think they'd be having a student calling play-by-play, but instead a pro is working the games.
And I continue to hear the low level distortion in the KXSU-LP air signal. It's that the processing is too aggressive or that the peaks are too loud- that's all fine. It's just a low level distortion in the signal. Imagine eating a soft baked snickerdoodle. Yum. Then imagine eating a soft baked snickerdoodle where there has been about a 1/2 cup of sand mixed into the batter. That's like listening to KXSU-LP.
 
Anyone wanting to learn how so spell "bogus", check out KGHO-LP on the FCC site. Licensee - Grays Harbor LPFM. Then check out the various FM translators - Licensee - Northwest Rock n Roll Preservation Society. A very direct connection, and there is only one name on most of the FCC info. Attached is the supposed contour of one of the FM translators. An amazing pattern. Most of us in the biz are in it to provide a meaninful service to our communities and provide a living for ourselves and our employees. There are a few that use it as their hobby or in some cases their fetish.
 

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Anyone wanting to learn how so spell "bogus", check out KGHO-LP on the FCC site. Licensee - Grays Harbor LPFM. Then check out the various FM translators - Licensee - Northwest Rock n Roll Preservation Society. A very direct connection, and there is only one name on most of the FCC info. Attached is the supposed contour of one of the FM translators. An amazing pattern. Most of us in the biz are in it to provide a meaninful service to our communities and provide a living for ourselves and our employees. There are a few that use it as their hobby or in some cases their fetish.
Totally agree Bill. Not that there are many actual engineers left at the Commission, but it's hard to believe they accepted that pattern.
If someone had the time, and access to an FIM-71, I'd field-check that pattern. Would be willing to bet the as-built field doesn't come even close to that. Yet another example of LPFM amateur shenanigans.
 
On the way in to work this morning and yesterday morning I heard KVRU-LP (correct call letters) loud and clear on most of my drive through Seattle with their usual programming and several ID's. So I can verify that this station is on.
That's good to know. I used to get them any time I tuned to their frequency, but probably it was just FM conditions at the time.
 
Any recent engineering news on KMGP-LP 101.1 ("Space 101.1")? This time last year the signal went out far beyond the map predicted by Radio-Locator, and I could pick it up from the Snoqualmie Valley. This year it's gone, and the KXA translator has semi-claimed the frequency here.

I'll add some news on KXSU-LP 102.1. They have picked up the Seattle University men's basketball games this season, which had previously been on 770 AM. You'd think they'd be having a student calling play-by-play, but instead a pro is working the games.
KMGP-LP is the only station where I've ever heard Duran Duran ("Union of The Snake") and Steely Dan ("Pretzel Logic") in the same hour. Not even the most adventurous Classic Hits programmers dare go there. It did have a big signal, I heard it in Mountlake Terrace a few years ago.

As for KXSU-LP having play-by-play pros, well, newbies often start out behind the scenes in sports media. Starting with the production style of today's sports entertainment (slicker than the grease on the red and white checkerboard paper of a typical sports bar burger. And nothing can fail.) Here, they're picking up the skills for that next big step forward.

And it really has come a long way since the days when the Cocteau Twins crazed afternoon guy at the 10 watt community college station was suddenly told "You'll do" and thrown into the booth; "....Um, there's a guy....And he's wearing a shirt. With numbers on it and who? He's got a name too? So I'm supposed to read, like, both?....And he was like, just running with a basketball a few seconds ago and then some other guy got in his way and like, the guy threw the basketball and then the basketball went over there.... Where another guy caught it and then like,...Will you cut it out, OK? I can't hear over all these screaming people...."
 
Anyone wanting to learn how so spell "bogus", check out KGHO-LP on the FCC site. Licensee - Grays Harbor LPFM. Then check out the various FM translators - Licensee - Northwest Rock n Roll Preservation Society. A very direct connection, and there is only one name on most of the FCC info. Attached is the supposed contour of one of the FM translators. An amazing pattern. Most of us in the biz are in it to provide a meaninful service to our communities and provide a living for ourselves and our employees. There are a few that use it as their hobby or in some cases their fetish.
What the....

Is-is that the actual official terrestrial signal contour? (If I read it right. I'm not an engineer, but this looks impossible.)

Is there any coordinating topographical map of that mess on file? I mean, what's with that big fat null to the east/northeast? Except for that weird, laser-like, almost address specific lobe just south of direct east?

And completely no signal whatsoever at all to the south? (This is a translator?)

And is this the actual, serious, e-mailed back with a straight face, intended signal pattern? (Good Golly, Miss Molly.) Or is that thing getting out all over the place?
 
KGHO is definitely a special case. On one hand, I genuinely to enjoy the programming and like that it replicates the golden age of radio. On the other hand, there are some very important questions that need to be asked in regard to how it operates. Specifically, I’ve always been a bit critical of the network of translators that have been set up outside of Grays Harbor County. I think you could probably argue that a secondary station in Thurston County could make sense, but the one that operates (or operated) out of Tacoma on 104.1 might be a bit of a stretch.
 
What the....

Is-is that the actual official terrestrial signal contour? (If I read it right. I'm not an engineer, but this looks impossible.)

Is there any coordinating topographical map of that mess on file? I mean, what's with that big fat null to the east/northeast? Except for that weird, laser-like, almost address specific lobe just south of direct east?

And completely no signal whatsoever at all to the south? (This is a translator?)

And is this the actual, serious, e-mailed back with a straight face, intended signal pattern? (Good Golly, Miss Molly.) Or is that thing getting out all over the place?
Re: Contour - that is the "contour" that the license filed and the FCC accepted
 
Strange as it sounds, there seems to be two KGHO's. The one owned by Grays Harbor LP FM, broadcasting on 92.7 and 99.9 in the Grays Harbor area; and the one owned by NWRRPS, broadcasting on 92.9, 104.1 (and perhaps 101.1) in the Tacoma-Olympia area. However, all them brand themselves as "Classic Rock & Roll".
 
Why would there be two different stations using that branding? It would be nice if we could compare programming, but as neither stream, that's a bit hard to do. Kind of too bad, as I've liked what I've heard when I've had the opportunity to hear KGHO.
 
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