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Setting up, maintaining and scheduling with Selector or MusicMaster takes great skill, training and experience. These are not iPhone apps that random select songs. A good programmer will look for tempo consistency in each set, good flow between individual songs, good era variety, good balance on song test scores for older and younger, male and female and of course the right horizontal and vertical rotations.
... and lots more.
The problem is that "tempo" is a relative thing in different formats. In a soft AC, uptempo is going to be medium in a Hot AC... and so on. Era codes will be different between a current based format that my only play recurrents and very new gold and a classic hits station. And song scores will be different in every market and for every station and for every test. Sound codes used to make style-based subsets are going to be different for every station... an AC may have a "leans rock" or "leans country" code, but, of course the country or rock stations don't need those codes.
The operative words being "A good programmer" - trust me having gone though Selector and dealing with first hand the mess that a " really good programmer" left behind. Most just leave the settings that they inherited from the prior "really good programmer" who was just shown the door. The basics of setting up Selector can be easily found on numerous You Tube accounts if you need help.
Basics, yes. But strategic programming via music rotation and flow are not in any of those ultra-basic videos.
Not what I'm seeing.
That's odd. I see them both as 8:12 AM.
We are getting into the weeds here David as originally the programming convo was focused on Sports / Talk and not music based stations. Music based stations are "easy" and require less thought than say a news talk sports and that is the main point of what I'm getting at. Why stations like KIRO do better than KJR. You have a programmer who actually has history programming. Who understands the concepts and principles as well as a solid foundation of the fundamentals and how to lead a successful team not a bunch of vulgar man boys in the "sports pit" who scratch and spit like it's a JV Boys locker room.
I've never noticed it before either. It just happened to get my attention.
Most of those corporate stations have a continual up line of programming SVPs, “mega ultra super programming presidents” and people or persons above that person. Then a guy locally who launches emails to staff and outside contacts in his or her Rolodex to attempt building relationships. Then they use fancy words like synergy etc. Some of them even have a nice appearance and a firm handshake.
Being a good programmer involves computrer skills to schedule music, automation skills, leadership skills.. Jesus, I could go on for days here. The more you know, the better you are. It's not just about hitting F2 and running for the door.
But according to Bob, a primate could do it.
I'm wondering of Bob is the guy programming that station in Eastern WA that I heard last week.
Not to divert the thread, but do you remember what town you were driving through?
Of course, many even here think that you just push a key and get a ready to air log. Most of us go hour by hour and polish or edit the log before being "finished".
And that's after an ever-evolving adjustment of general rotation 'rules'.
Good point. Particularly among stations that play some or lots of currents, we find that there are music subsets that may have more or fewer songs in the hot rotations at any given times. So every time we add a new song or move a song among the current categories, we have to look at spacing of each style in each category and the rules that control how much of each style subset can be present in any music sweep.
That is the sort of thing that has to be looked at constantly as the playlist is changed.
And then we have artists in some formats who also do "parts" on other artist songs. Unless we want to avoid playing all those possible hits, we need to occasionally adjust artist separation to allow for all the songs to play.
I don't think most listeners care about artist seperation with parts of other artist songs. 99.9% don't care. The .01 are proberly working or have worked in radio, or extreme listeners. Radio people falsely think listeners care about such things. They don't.
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