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Seattle-Tacoma Radio Ratings - Holiday 2022

Wow how times have changed. It seemed for years, KIXI held steady in the low 1 share range, then slowly declined. Now, even KISW's stream is beating it.
 
Wow how times have changed. It seemed for years, KIXI held steady in the low 1 share range, then slowly declined. Now, even KISW's stream is beating it.
I would hardly call KIXI the same station that it used to be at this point. It’s too bad, because some of the music that they still play isn’t half bad. I’ve heard some tracks from Carly Simon and Jim Croche on 880 that I never hear anywhere else. Unfortunately, most of the music programming is gone, outside of a few hours that are part of “Intelligence for your Life.” Lol
 
I would hardly call KIXI the same station that it used to be at this point. It’s too bad, because some of the music that they still play isn’t half bad. I’ve heard some tracks from Carly Simon and Jim Croche on 880 that I never hear anywhere else. Unfortunately, most of the music programming is gone, outside of a few hours that are part of “Intelligence for your Life.” Lol
Could someone explain why discussions about current stations/ratings need to devolve into either LPFM's, pirate's, or KIXI? I don't get it. I mean, KIXI has been completely irrelevant for what? Thirty years?
 
Could someone explain why discussions about current stations/ratings need to devolve into either LPFM's, pirate's, or KIXI? I don't get it. I mean, KIXI has been completely irrelevant for what? Thirty years?
Well, it is a radio station in Seattle that participates in the survey, so it’s worth mentioning. And at this point, it’s clear that the station is either on life support or is near death, especially with Hubbard putting effort into their HD-2 sports betting programming, which could easily end up on 880.
 
Could someone explain why discussions about current stations/ratings need to devolve into either LPFM's, pirate's, or KIXI? I don't get it. I mean, KIXI has been completely irrelevant for what? Thirty years?
What else would you rather talk about? Everyone else seems to be either doing well or at least holding steady. The only other thing to discuss really is the continued basement performance at KPLZ, which we've also discussed. The only other thing that really sticks out is how since 98.9 went country, they seem to have the biggest swings of any commercial station. Some months when the format across the country is doing well they have a really good book, and when the format overall does poorly they do especially bad.
 
What else would you rather talk about? Everyone else seems to be either doing well or at least holding steady. The only other thing to discuss really is the continued basement performance at KPLZ, which we've also discussed. The only other thing that really sticks out is how since 98.9 went country, they seem to have the biggest swings of any commercial station. Some months when the format across the country is doing well they have a really good book, and when the format overall does poorly they do especially bad.
Seattle is a tough market for country music programming it seems, unless you’ve got a really good mix of talent to hold the attention of listeners. KMPS did this for many years. Then the torch was carried by The Wolf. Much like KMPS, The Wolf had a morning show that easily attracted listeners. The syndicated Bobby Bones show is less than ideal, and if listeners don’t already want to hear country, they probably won’t bother listening to it. In the summertime, I suspect they will rebound.
 
There you guys go, that's the spirit! Living in the here and now is where it's at. Nothing wrong with talking about success either you know. This site already has so much nostalgic talk, it almost seems like visiting some weird alternative universe.

Beginning to feel like that guy on the Progressive TV spots helping young homeowners who are turning into their parents. Instead, I'm the guy helping old radio nerds live in the present. Don't thank me, I consider it a public service.
 
Seattle is a tough market for country music programming it seems, unless you’ve got a really good mix of talent to hold the attention of listeners. KMPS did this for many years. Then the torch was carried by The Wolf. Much like KMPS, The Wolf had a morning show that easily attracted listeners. The syndicated Bobby Bones show is less than ideal, and if listeners don’t already want to hear country, they probably won’t bother listening to it. In the summertime, I suspect they will rebound.
BigA could probably elaborate more; but over the years, in spite of population churn, seems like Seattle/Tacoma has only ever had one dominant country station. Over time it seems like some new interloper comes in trying to re-slice the (possum) pie. The Wolf succeeded over time expectedly because of the morning show. Not that the newer stations probably aren't making money. We're talking a dominant position here.
 
BigA could probably elaborate more; but over the years, in spite of population churn, seems like Seattle/Tacoma has only ever had one dominant country station. Over time it seems like some new interloper comes in trying to re-slice the (possum) pie. The Wolf succeeded over time expectedly because of the morning show. Not that the newer stations probably aren't making money. We're talking a dominant position here.
KNUC and KKWF seem to be about equal to me; neither is pulling too far ahead nor falling behind. With that being said, I bet that if either Hubbard or Audacy wanted to make a bigger investment in either station, they could do exactly what you’re saying (become the dominant station for country in the market). I see this as being more likely scenario for KNUC.
 
Taking the nostalgia KIXI, Pat Benatar and Kokomo talk away for at least ONE post...

KPLZ is an embarrassment under Lotus. Holiday book, but this is happening during normal season too. I've said it before - time for "Northwest News 101.5 and 1000" (ala KNX Los Angeles). Flip 97.7 to something for South Sound. Oh heck, how about STAR 97.7 for the South Sound? Competing with Y107.3/105.7 and KRXY? Or an AAA-type mix?
The magic must have left when Kent Phillips retired.

Is that KSWD's first ever #2 book as a Soft AC...I meant, Christmas station? The success continues at 94.1 mHz. Without Ichabod Caine! Must be the "Delilahhhhhh...." effect.

Wonder if KIRO's ratings will change after the death of Dori Monson. Still hard to believe he's gone.
 
Taking the nostalgia KIXI, Pat Benatar and Kokomo talk away for at least ONE post...

KPLZ is an embarrassment under Lotus. Holiday book, but this is happening during normal season too. I've said it before - time for "Northwest News 101.5 and 1000" (ala KNX Los Angeles). Flip 97.7 to something for South Sound. Oh heck, how about STAR 97.7 for the South Sound? Competing with Y107.3/105.7 and KRXY? Or an AAA-type mix?
The magic must have left when Kent Phillips retired.
But, what if the station is still making money? Simulcasting the 1000AM is a waste of the signal. You'd have zero shot of monetizing a full market FM if you're just carrying the same programming. You end up cannibalizing yourself. AAA is dead. And why would a full market FM concentrate on the South Sound, when the South Sound is part of the Seattle Tacoma market? You think there's more ad revenue South of Seattle than Seattle? You been in Larry's stash again?
Is that KSWD's first ever #2 book as a Soft AC...I meant, Christmas station? The success continues at 94.1 mHz. Without Ichabod Caine! Must be the "Delilahhhhhh...." effect.
And how long ago was that?
Wonder if KIRO's ratings will change after the death of Dori Monson. Still hard to believe he's gone.
Sadly, I doubt if most listeners even notice.
 
Does KXXO concentrate on Seattle or the South Sound? KNWN-97.7's transmitter is at Matlock/Shelton, the COL at Oakville. This puts the 60dbu into Pierce/Thurston, and 97.7 could concentrate on Tacoma/Olympia.

KNX-97.1 L.A. beat KLOS in the October AND November books (3.2 rating). And that's with 1070 simulcasting it. It nearly beat KIIS-FM in October. What's to say KNWN can't do this with full-power 101.5 at Cougar Mountain?

AAA dead? What about KBCO in Denver? Tied 5th place in Holiday '22. KPND in Coeur D'Alene? There has to be some type of audience left if they are still getting these ratings with the ski/liberal audience in Denver/Boulder. And Seattle has a loyal KEXP audience. What's the difference between a typical Seattle music lover vs. one in the suburban Denver metro?
 
KNX-97.1 L.A. beat KLOS in the October AND November books (3.2 rating). And that's with 1070 simulcasting it. It nearly beat KIIS-FM in October. What's to say KNWN can't do this with full-power 101.5 at Cougar Mountain?
You are looking at 12+ again. KNX was 25th in the Holiday book in 25-54 .
AAA dead? What about KBCO in Denver? Tied 5th place in Holiday '22.
And more like 11th in 25-54.
KPND in Coeur D'Alene?
KPND is around 25th in 25-54. It's about 15th in revenue.

All of the AAA stations nationally lean heavily into the 55+ audience groups.
 
In Seattle, it's sitting pretty firmly as #5 overall, and the #1 non-holiday music station, on a 4,000 watt signal.
KXXO KEXP is #1 in 18-34 fairly consistently, but that fact means it is not AAA. Even the station defines itself as "eclectic" and not AAA.

Right now it is playing Adrian Quesada and Mentiras Con Cariño. That ain't AAA. and the whole show is obscure Spanish rock flavored with folk music based songs from various Latin American nations.

This, from their home page, sort of typifies the attitude;

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KXXO is #1 in 18-34 fairly consistently, but that fact means it is not AAA. Even the station defines itself as "eclectic" and not AAA.
You're confusing KXXO with KEXP.

Sure, you can call the nextgen AAA whatever you want. Whatever that is, is not dead. And it sounds great.
 
You're confusing KXXO with KEXP.
Sorry. Snagged the wrong calls but the right data.

KXXO does not show and/or is not subscribed to Nielsen.
Sure, you can call the nextgen AAA whatever you want. Whatever that is, is not dead. And it sounds great.
But event the station does not call it "AAA". A station playing a Colombian rock singer followed by a Dominican folk singer at 9 PM is not AAA.
 
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