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Seattle-Tacoma Radio Ratings: October 2015

From a Radio Discussions perspective, they can and will be argued. After that, I'd say in about about 8 to 10 posts, the thread will evolve to translators and KMCQ.

You're also wrong from a statistical angle. It is likely KIRO-FM benefitted from the Seahawks, but the flaws in PPM methodology, usage and sampling are too great to say numbers cannot be argued.

I only meant "can't be argued" because they are published. As in, "the play will stand as called". Yes, they can be argued figuratively, which means on this site. And BTW, since when did KIRO having the Seahawks become evil? Don't radio stations try and get successful sports franchises to spike the ratings? Is this something terribly new? I think not.

Indeed KIRO and KOMO are not direct competitors, but they both lead the market in "talk" programming, and their demos are not as far a part as many would proclaim.
 
Indeed KIRO and KOMO are not direct competitors, but they both lead the market in "talk" programming, and their demos are not as far a part as many would proclaim.

That other station mentioned on this board..What are those calls, Oh yeah KUOW is somewhere between KIRO and KOMO in that beauty contest for Nesw/talk. So does that mean KOMO is actually in last place, at least in the beauty contest where News/Talk is concerned?
 
Hopefully a mainstream format on KVI with an FM simulcast. (I know...that's a pipe dream.)

Because if I want to hear Katy Perry, Maroon 5 or Adele, I want a choice between a streaming service, FM radio or 570 AM.
 
KKWF I was referring to the effect not the cause.
and no one took the bait on something new coming for KVI.

Why would someone "take the bait" on something new coming for KVI? How many format changes has this once great frequency had in the past 40 years? If I were a fisherman, I would continue to use the same bait as always and hope for atleast a bite every few months.
 
Because if I want to hear Katy Perry, Maroon 5 or Adele, I want a choice between a streaming service, FM radio or 570 AM.

Yes. I want to hear Katy Perry, Maroon 5 and Adele too on 570 kHz.

With Robin & Maynard in the morning. Be listening at 7:22 for today's mystery Beach Boys hit from the '80s.

And personally, it would be a lot more refreshing to hear through the static and noise than those unintelligible, disgruntled grumbling noises currently heard on 570 kHz anyway. It's a go as far I'm concerned.
 
What else would be placed on KVI? Religion? Deportes? Spanish all news or news talk (if there are such formats in the U.S.)?

Aside from its present programming, I don't see much that's any more viable than the present programming. And they did go up in the 6+ ratings, for what it'.s worth...

But then, I'm not a programmer.
 
sorry you won't be hearing kokomo or any music anytime soon on KVI. yes the current format is successful and viable. and it's about to get a lot better in my view.
 
KPLZ changes calls to KVI and they simulcast? I always liked 101.5 when it was called the FM-KVI. Probably not.

Left wing talk? Is there a launch date so we can tell when the change takes place. If I had to guess I would say a left leaning progressive talk shift. Just to cover my bases I'll up size my guess to Progressive sports talk, with one right wing host in PM drive.
 
(Treading lightly here)... I did a cursory ride through Google Land this morning, and wasn't able to find an example of successful, full-time 'progressive' talk at any major market station. Given this has been tried in Seattle and Portland, and at least two national attempts at a left-leaning talk network have failed, what's changed that would motivate a responsible broadcaster to take on the financial risk? I know there are varied opinions about how things were done at 1090, but you'd think that somewhere, there'd be good examples of how to do "left"... right.
 
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I had a few ideas for 570, each of which seem fully viable to me:

Spliff 570 - Weed Love for You to Listen

La Fresca - Radio para Lesbianas Hispanas

570 The Jam - prerecorded loop saying to avoid floating bridges, and all other highways for that matter.
 
(Treading lightly here)... I did a cursory ride through Google Land this morning, and wasn't able to find an example of successful, full-time 'progressive' talk at any major market station. Given this has been tried in Seattle and Portland, and at least two national attempts at a left-leaning talk network have failed, what's changed that would motivate a responsible broadcaster to take on the financial risk? I know there are varied opinions about how things were done at 1090, but you'd think that somewhere, there'd be good examples of how to do "left"... right.

I agree with your assessment, GG. One reason left-talk hasn't been successful is that it's not entertaining. Other than Rachel Maddow and MAYBE Stephanie Miller, there's no real standout liberal talker like Rush and Hannity in the conservative realm.

And with Sinclair's right-leaning political perspective - I don't see them going left-wing on 570 - in fact, they may go more to the right.
 
I don't think people like "me too" radio talk formats. In other words, if you're already on the left-leaning bus and people spend 3 or 4 hour shows saying the stuff you already believe, it's kind of a waste of time. The key to Rush (and so many others, unfortunately) is the emphasis is not on the "me too" but more along the outrage and "can you BELIEVE this??" kinds of topics.

Left audience formats tend to be more influenced by comedy -- which is why Daily Show has a following, and why Al Franken (during his tenure) did well on Air America. There are exceptions everywhere, of course, but it's a generalization that I think makes sense.
 
sorry you won't be hearing kokomo or any music anytime soon on KVI. yes the current format is successful and viable. and it's about to get a lot better in my view.

What are they going to do? Add whack-job shows like Alex Jones and others like him? I can hear it now. "Extreme right-wing conspiracy nut talk radio for Seattle...570 KVI". If this happens...turn the license in...AM radio is over.
 
The reason Limbaugh's formula worked is because it was a unique product at the time. Before Rush there was virtually no outlet on the air with a conservative take on things. A few magazines and columnists thats about it.

For that same reason liberal talk radio doesn't work because there is no shortage of liberal opinion in the greater media pool. It's like being the 5th CHR station in a market.
 
I think one reason KPTK 1090 didn't last was that liberal and progressive people seem to get more information from NPR or the internet than AM radio.

I know quite a few people who are definitely progressive, and I remember I would tell them about KPTK (I was listening to it at the time, even though I'm more independent than anything else), and they didn't even know the station existed.
 
I think one reason KPTK 1090 didn't last was that liberal and progressive people seem to get more information from NPR or the internet than AM radio.

Having terrible programming along with zero marketing are more likely the reasons the station didn't move the ratings needle.
 
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