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Seattle's "Rock" Station

Rock is overrated anyway. The answer is schlock
 
Rock is overrated anyway. The answer is schlock
Whoa, whoa, whoa!! Rock overrated? First of all, let's make sure you and I have the same definition of rock: you've got Pink Floyd, Who, and the Stones in the 70s; Def Leppard, Van Halen and G&R in the 80s; and Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and even Metallica in the 90s. There's a ton more examples, but I don't have the time or space LOL.

I realize the 90s grunge is polarizing, but other than that, you don't like these groups, Bongwater? BTW, no hate, just interested in the opinions of other people.
 
First of all, let's make sure you and I have the same definition of rock: you've got Pink Floyd, Who, and the Stones in the 70s; Def Leppard, Van Halen and G&R in the 80s; and Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and even Metallica in the 90s.

That's classic rock. Anything recent that you would accept?
 
That's classic rock. Anything recent that you would accept?
Shinedown is GREAT. I also like Volbeat, Bad Wolves and Mammoth WVH. Additionally, I really enjoyed last year's "Dear Agony" from Breaking Benjamin featuring Lacey Sturm. Greta Van Fleet and Dirty Honey get an honorable mention for their similarities to Zeppelin, Rush, and Bad Company.

The only reason I know these newer songs is because my local Active Rock station plays a lot of Classic Rock. I can't help but hear the newer songs in between the older ones LOL. But that's okay because some of the newer stuff is pretty good.
 
Kind of like SXM has on a (supposedly) popular channel called: "Yacht Rock"
To me, it's neither.
"Yacht Rock" is a name a Millennials gave to that type of music because we (Boomers and Gen-X) never really had a name for it that stuck. Some of us back then called it "Vanilla Pop", But most of us never had a real name for it, even though we all knew it was distinctly different from everything else labeled Adult Contemporary at the time.

Whoa, whoa, whoa!! Rock overrated? First of all, let's make sure you and I have the same definition of rock: you've got Pink Floyd, Who, and the Stones in the 70s; Def Leppard, Van Halen and G&R in the 80s; and Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and even Metallica in the 90s. There's a ton more examples, but I don't have the time or space LOL.

I realize the 90s grunge is polarizing, but other than that, you don't like these groups, Bongwater? BTW, no hate, just interested in the opinions of other people.
I was being sarcastic.
 
"Yacht Rock" is a name a Millennials gave to that type of music because we (Boomers and Gen-X) never really had a name for it that stuck. Some of us back then called it "Vanilla Pop", But most of us never had a real name for it, even though we all knew it was distinctly different from everything else labeled Adult Contemporary at the time.


I was being sarcastic.
Better than “minivan rock,” which is made up of bands like Matchbox 20, the Goo Goo Dolls, and Counting Crows.
 
Better than “minivan rock,” which is made up of bands like Matchbox 20, the Goo Goo Dolls, and Counting Crows.
Tonic, Verve, Sister Hazel, Dishwalla, Blues Traveler, Deep Blue Something, Train and Semisonic?

Damn. You're right. That is a veritable sub-genre.
 
Shinedown is GREAT. I also like Volbeat, Bad Wolves and Mammoth WVH. Additionally, I really enjoyed last year's "Dear Agony" from Breaking Benjamin featuring Lacey Sturm. Greta Van Fleet and Dirty Honey get an honorable mention for their similarities to Zeppelin, Rush, and Bad Company.

The only reason I know these newer songs is because my local Active Rock station plays a lot of Classic Rock. I can't help but hear the newer songs in between the older ones LOL. But that's okay because some of the newer stuff is pretty good.
Gojira, Mastodon, gotta add them. Although they've been around since the early 2010s and late 00s. Greta Van Fleet's OK.

I haven't heard a "yacht rock" station, but from the name it would seem it's soft rock from the late 70s? Eagles, Doobies, Chicago, etc? and maybe Jimmy Buffett?
 
Remember the musical nostalgia mini-boom of 1966-68? "Winchester Cathedral," "Hello Hello," "My Mammy," "Ding! Dong! The Witch is Dead," even a revival of "Mairzy Doats." And, of course, Paul McCartney's "Honey Pie" and "When I'm Sixty-Four" on Beatles albums.
And "Those Were The Days".... Mary Hopkin.... although I think that was a couple years later.
 
1971.... Sticky Fingers, Led Zep IV, T.Rex's Electric Warrior, Who's Next, Allman Brothers at Fillmore East, Alice Cooper's Killer, Aqualung, Santana III, Rod Stewart's Every Picture Tells A Story.... John Kongos "He's Gonna Step On You Again", The Yes Album, Guess Who's Share The Land.... There was a lot going on that year in rock in general.

The pop charts were a whole 'nother matter, however, as noted.
 
Tonic, Verve, Sister Hazel, Dishwalla, Blues Traveler, Deep Blue Something, Train and Semisonic?

Damn. You're right. That is a veritable sub-genre.
I believe that my own personal hell would be listening to “Mr. Jones” by Counting Crows, “Iris” by the Goo Goo Dolls, and “Push” by Rob Thomas on a loop.
 
As I guess I am a guy who is old enough to appreciate music from the 70’s to today I must say that the 80’s was the last good decade of pop music. The 90’s were horrible. The early 2000’s were ok but the decline was obvious.
 
Gojira, Mastodon, gotta add them. Although they've been around since the early 2010s and late 00s. Greta Van Fleet's OK.

I haven't heard a "yacht rock" station, but from the name it would seem it's soft rock from the late 70s? Eagles, Doobies, Chicago, etc? and mimmy Buffett?
Yay
 
As I guess I am a guy who is old enough to appreciate music from the 70’s to today I must say that the 80’s was the last good decade of pop music. The 90’s were horrible. The early 2000’s were ok but the decline was obvious.
I was born in 1995. I think the 90’s had some decent music, but the 60’s through the 1980’s truly the golden age of music if you ask me (with the 80’s being my personal preference). Rock stayed relevant in the 90’s, but some of the aforementioned groups really watered the genre down.
 
Tonic, Verve, Sister Hazel, Dishwalla, Blues Traveler, Deep Blue Something, Train and Semisonic?

Damn. You're right. That is a veritable sub-genre.
I believe that my own personal hell would be listening to “Mr. Jones” by Counting Crows, “Iris” by the Goo Goo Dolls, and “Push” by Rob Thomas on a loop.
Wow, I'm shocked at all the hate, LOL. I remember loving "Iris" when it was in the movie City of Angels. Anyway, the above groups, along with others like Third Eye Blind, Dave Mathews Band, Live and Creed were some of the non-grunge staples of 90s Alt Rock radio. Seriously though, y'all don't like these bands even a little bit?!?
 
Wow, I'm shocked at all the hate, LOL. I remember loving "Iris" when it was in the movie City of Angels. Anyway, the above groups, along with others like Third Eye Blind, Dave Mathews Band, Live and Creed were some of the non-grunge staples of 90s Alt Rock radio. Seriously though, y'all don't like these bands even a little bit?!?
I did not work in radio as long as most people on this board, but for the seven years that I did, I heard the Goo Goo Dolls and Matchbox 20 every single day. I think I will be content never hearing them again. Creed is an honourable mention.
 
I did not work in radio as long as most people on this board, but for the seven years that I did, I heard the Goo Goo Dolls and Matchbox 20 every single day. I think I will be content never hearing them again. Creed is an honourable mention.
Could it be that some of these artists appealed more to women? In addition to liking their songs, I couldn't help but notice that both Johnny Reznik and Rob Thomas looked pretty good. Poor Scott Stapp did alright until his nervous breakdown/mental health issues derailed him. Speaking of Creed, wasn't their music half-way Christian in nature? (I have absolutely no problem with that BTW.) Anyway, thanks for the feedback, fordranger797!
 
Could it be that some of these artists appealed more to women? In addition to liking their songs, I couldn't help but notice that both Johnny Reznik and Rob Thomas looked pretty good. Poor Scott Stapp did alright until his nervous breakdown/mental health issues derailed him. Speaking of Creed, wasn't their music half-way Christian in nature? (I have absolutely no problem with that BTW.) Anyway, thanks for the feedback, fordranger797!
Creed began as a Christian rock band, as did the soft-rock group Sixpence None the Richer.
 
The 90s gave Rock the kick in the pants that it sorely needed. Hair band and soft-core rap (Vanilla Ice -- remember him? #1 in 1990. You could also include MC Hammer and other similar pop rappers) was OK, it had its place, but it had become a caricature of itself.

Then came Nirvana, Ice Cube, 2Pac, Soundgarden, AIC, STP, and -- a bit later -- the fusion of rap with rock with groups like Rage, 311 and the nu-metal bands. And it worked.

The negative? The music industry being the plodding dinosaur that it was and is, decided to instantly boot every 80s rock band aside from GNR and Van Halen, although Van Halen wasn't technically an 80s band, they were a special case. The industry put all their rock eggs in the grunge / alt/ rap / nu-metal basket.

Bandwagon. And all bandwagons come to an end.

Anyone who might think 90s rock music wasn't vital needs to check out the vid on YT of Pearl Jam live at PinkPop, 1992. It's visceral. it had just as much energy as any of the 80s metal bands that grunge (unfortunately) killed. You can literally see why they became as huge as they did.

Either way, the rock industry is a shell of its former self, and that's largely thanks to the music industry losing 30% of their revenue over 20 years, after the rise of the new, buy the single song on MP3 model (which didn't really last long, maybe 10 years?) as well as the rise of Streaming, which -- to the musician and music label -- is only a little more revenue-gaining than the old broadcast royalty. The lack of actual music sales has put a fork in the rock music industry. The music itself will always be with us. Locals only, the "locality" being the community of followers of an artist's channel on YT or another internet medium, as well as those who manage to go to an artist's live shows.

I.e., it's become just another form of "content".
 
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