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Severe Flooding in Keene, NH

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It's made national news how bad the flooding was in Keene.

Does anyone know how/if the Stanhope Ave SAGA complex was damaged/flooded?
I know the swamp is in the back yard.

I heard over 50% of the town's roads are destroyed as well, I hope thats just a media exagguration.
 
> It's made national news how bad the flooding was in Keene.
>
> Does anyone know how/if the Stanhope Ave SAGA complex was
> damaged/flooded?
> I know the swamp is in the back yard.
>
> I heard over 50% of the town's roads are destroyed as well,
> I hope thats just a media exagguration.

I can't really give you firsthand info, but I was in Central NH over part of the weekend & heard a lot of radio talk about flood watches, but nothing I heard would have alarmed me to the extent of the flooding. All I heard were general mentions from both jocks & meterologists. I would have expected to have heard more detailed warnings. When did all this occur? The rain had tapered off on my way home late Sunday morning but I still didn't hear anything on the radio pointing to the fact that there was this much flooding so I assume I was hearing mostly tracked stations.

Friends I stayed with emailed me later in the day about a dam bursting & several towns, including Keene, under water with roads washed away & homes & businesses under water. You would think that being a big weekend for tourists that any stations up there would have mentioned what was going on more specifically & taken more than 15 seconds to do it unless the effects weren't really felt until later in the day.

Maybe someone up there can give a more accurate description of how radio responded to letting people know because I sure didn't hear anything than would have alarmed me more than the usual flood watch mentions we hear further south that turn into basic street flooding situations that don't do much damage.
 
I have friends in Keene and from what I hear everything is fine with Stanhope Ave. You can look on WKNE's website. I don't think anyone knew the damn was going to burst, therefore they couldn't really warn people.


> > It's made national news how bad the flooding was in Keene.
>
> >
> > Does anyone know how/if the Stanhope Ave SAGA complex was
> > damaged/flooded?
> > I know the swamp is in the back yard.
> >
> > I heard over 50% of the town's roads are destroyed as
> well,
> > I hope thats just a media exagguration.
>
> I can't really give you firsthand info, but I was in Central
> NH over part of the weekend & heard a lot of radio talk
> about flood watches, but nothing I heard would have alarmed
> me to the extent of the flooding. All I heard were general
> mentions from both jocks & meterologists. I would have
> expected to have heard more detailed warnings. When did all
> this occur? The rain had tapered off on my way home late
> Sunday morning but I still didn't hear anything on the radio
> pointing to the fact that there was this much flooding so I
> assume I was hearing mostly tracked stations.
>
> Friends I stayed with emailed me later in the day about a
> dam bursting & several towns, including Keene, under water
> with roads washed away & homes & businesses under water. You
> would think that being a big weekend for tourists that any
> stations up there would have mentioned what was going on
> more specifically & taken more than 15 seconds to do it
> unless the effects weren't really felt until later in the
> day.
>
> Maybe someone up there can give a more accurate description
> of how radio responded to letting people know because I sure
> didn't hear anything than would have alarmed me more than
> the usual flood watch mentions we hear further south that
> turn into basic street flooding situations that don't do
> much damage.
>
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> I have friends in Keene and from what I hear everything is
> fine with Stanhope Ave. You can look on WKNE's website. I
> don't think anyone knew the damn was going to burst,
> therefore they couldn't really warn people.
>

Did the dam actually break? I'd heard that it overflowed but was intact.
 
I was in the central part of the state as well and heard a number of warnings/stories/updated information on Mix 94.1 on Sunday. Didn't hear much of anything anywhere else...WLNH, WLKZ, the Concord stations...I think the magnitude of what happened really didn't hit home until later in the day.

> > It's made national news how bad the flooding was in Keene.
>
> >
> > Does anyone know how/if the Stanhope Ave SAGA complex was
> > damaged/flooded?
> > I know the swamp is in the back yard.
> >
> > I heard over 50% of the town's roads are destroyed as
> well,
> > I hope thats just a media exagguration.
>
> I can't really give you firsthand info, but I was in Central
> NH over part of the weekend & heard a lot of radio talk
> about flood watches, but nothing I heard would have alarmed
> me to the extent of the flooding. All I heard were general
> mentions from both jocks & meterologists. I would have
> expected to have heard more detailed warnings. When did all
> this occur? The rain had tapered off on my way home late
> Sunday morning but I still didn't hear anything on the radio
> pointing to the fact that there was this much flooding so I
> assume I was hearing mostly tracked stations.
>
> Friends I stayed with emailed me later in the day about a
> dam bursting & several towns, including Keene, under water
> with roads washed away & homes & businesses under water. You
> would think that being a big weekend for tourists that any
> stations up there would have mentioned what was going on
> more specifically & taken more than 15 seconds to do it
> unless the effects weren't really felt until later in the
> day.
>
> Maybe someone up there can give a more accurate description
> of how radio responded to letting people know because I sure
> didn't hear anything than would have alarmed me more than
> the usual flood watch mentions we hear further south that
> turn into basic street flooding situations that don't do
> much damage.
>
 
> It's made national news how bad the flooding was in Keene.
>
> Does anyone know how/if the Stanhope Ave SAGA complex was
> damaged/flooded?
> I know the swamp is in the back yard.

It's been several years since I was last at the Stanhope Ave. facility (this was before Saga ownership), but I seem to recall that the swampy area out back where the 1290 towers are is quite a bit lower in elevation when compared to street level (and even basement level) of the building itself. IIRC the basement there was originally designed to double as a fallout shelter. If it's gonna protect you from radiation, it's probably gonna protect you from a little rain (or in this case a lot of rain). If I were one to worry, I'd worry about the bases of the 1290 sticks being submerged, though I seem to recall that they are/were elevated several feet off the ground atop concrete bases out in the swamp/floodplain.

> I heard over 50% of the town's roads are destroyed as well,
> I hope thats just a media exagguration.

A Keene Fire official mid-Sunday estimated that 30-40% of the roads in downtown Keene were underwater, some of which was waist-deep. In other neighborhoods in the city the flooding was less widespread, but still required some evacuations of residents. From what I've seen, other towns had it a lot worse than Keene, but the Elm City gets the attention due to its relatively high population. I don't think any homes were lifted off their foundations and swept downstream in Keene, as happened in other parts of the state (i.e. Alstead and Hinsdale).
 
Does anybody know how it is to the west in Brattleboro, VT and Chesterfield, NH? The only media I know of there is WTSA-AM/FM and WKVT-AM/FM. There's also a NOAA Weather Radio station which transmits from Ames Hill in Brattleboro. In fact, had there been no flooding, I would've likely been visiting that area right now. (I live in central Connecticut.)
 
> Does anybody know how it is to the west in Brattleboro, VT
> and Chesterfield, NH? The only media I know of there is
> WTSA-AM/FM and WKVT-AM/FM. There's also a NOAA Weather Radio
> station which transmits from Ames Hill in Brattleboro. In
> fact, had there been no flooding, I would've likely been
> visiting that area right now. (I live in central
> Connecticut.)
>

I know Hinsdale, right across the river from Brattleboro got pretty roughed up. I'm sure WTSA stepped up, they've always had a very strong "local" Brattleboro presence and a dedicated news department.<P ID="signature">______________
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> I know Hinsdale, right across the river from Brattleboro got
> pretty roughed up. I'm sure WTSA stepped up, they've always
> had a very strong "local" Brattleboro presence and a
> dedicated news department.
>

Right across the river from Brattleboro if you're taking Exit 1 from I-91. I'm usually in the north end by exit 3 (US 5/VT 9 East) and it's Chesterfield on the other side. By the way, why is LOCAL in quotes? Usually, Tim Johnson over at WTSA-FM (96.7) will do segments at the top of the hour, such as a grand opening of a store or some other town function. That would get a line or two in "The Herald" newspaper here (New Britain, CT) and that's it. OK, they're a much smaller radio market than Hartford/New Britain/Middletown is. Stuff like that is a really big deal for them, depsite being only about 100 miles north of here.
 
> Usually, Tim Johnson over at
> WTSA-FM (96.7) will do segments at the top of the hour, such
> as a grand opening of a store or some other town function.
> That would get a line or two in "The Herald" newspaper here
> (New Britain, CT) and that's it. OK, they're a much smaller
> radio market than Hartford/New Britain/Middletown is. Stuff
> like that is a really big deal for them, depsite being only
> about 100 miles north of here.
>

Welcome to small-market radio where the station is programmed by the sales dept. Remotes from supermarket grand openings or used car lots are bad radio whether it's market #3 or #300...it's just that in the smaller markets it's a lot tougher to walk away from the revenue even if it's a tune-out for the listeners.
 
> > Usually, Tim Johnson over at
> > WTSA-FM (96.7) will do segments at the top of the hour,
> such
> > as a grand opening of a store or some other town function.
>
> > That would get a line or two in "The Herald" newspaper
> here
> > (New Britain, CT) and that's it. OK, they're a much
> smaller
> > radio market than Hartford/New Britain/Middletown is.
> Stuff
> > like that is a really big deal for them, depsite being
> only
> > about 100 miles north of here.
> >
>
> Welcome to small-market radio where the station is
> programmed by the sales dept. Remotes from supermarket
> grand openings or used car lots are bad radio whether it's
> market #3 or #300...it's just that in the smaller markets
> it's a lot tougher to walk away from the revenue even if
> it's a tune-out for the listeners.
>
To Tim's credit, he pulled a 12+ hour airshift late Saturday/early Sunday keeping the locals informed of evacuations in Brattleboro due to the flooding. And when the gentleman who was scheduled to take over at 6am didn't show (car in 4 feet of water in Keene), did he just throw it on the bird? No, he pulled the old "Energizer Bunny" routine and kept going. What did the other "local" station do? Can you say "voicetrack"?

On the subject of "Grand Openings": With the anti-business sentiment of the many trust-fund liberal transplants who have been infiltrating local politics of late, any new business opening in the area most certainly is news.
 
>
> On the subject of "Grand Openings": With the anti-business
> sentiment of the many trust-fund liberal transplants who
> have been infiltrating local politics of late, any new
> business opening in the area most certainly is news.
>
Keane is represented by :

State Representatives: Suzanne S. Butcher; James “Tim” Dunn; Peter S. Espiefs; Kris E. Roberts; Timothy N. Robertson; Stephanie C. Sinclair; Charles F. Weed, all Democrats

infiltration? looks like it's all over for Republicans in Keane. Local politics are supposedly non-partisan but if the reps are any indicator I wouldn't expect many around.

why do republicans hate rich people? People who add to the tax base (living in expensive houses buying liqour- helping NH and Keane run). Keane is a historic area that will make more money off leaf peepers and smart develpment than building a new industrial "park" with its eventual superfund clean-up. Spare me the republican blather and get a job in lovely Industrial Manchester.

http://www.ci.keene.nh.us/index.htm
 
I Love that band! (was Re: Severe Flooding in Keene, NH

I love the band Keane! Especially that "Somewhere Only We Know" song. I heard it just the other day when I was driving through KEENE. What a coincidence that was.


> >
> > On the subject of "Grand Openings": With the anti-business
>
> > sentiment of the many trust-fund liberal transplants who
> > have been infiltrating local politics of late, any new
> > business opening in the area most certainly is news.
> >
> Keane is represented by :
>
> State Representatives: Suzanne S. Butcher; James “Tim” Dunn;
> Peter S. Espiefs; Kris E. Roberts; Timothy N. Robertson;
> Stephanie C. Sinclair; Charles F. Weed, all Democrats
>
> infiltration? looks like it's all over for Republicans in
> Keane. Local politics are supposedly non-partisan but if the
> reps are any indicator I wouldn't expect many around.
>
> why do republicans hate rich people? People who add to the
> tax base (living in expensive houses buying liqour- helping
> NH and Keane run). Keane is a historic area that will make
> more money off leaf peepers and smart develpment than
> building a new industrial "park" with its eventual superfund
> clean-up. Spare me the republican blather and get a job in
> lovely Industrial Manchester.
>
> http://www.ci.keene.nh.us/index.htm
>
 
>> Keane is represented by :
>
> State Representatives: Suzanne S. Butcher; James “Tim” Dunn;
> Peter S. Espiefs; Kris E. Roberts; Timothy N. Robertson;
> Stephanie C. Sinclair; Charles F. Weed, all Democrats
>
> infiltration? looks like it's all over for Republicans in
> Keane. Local politics are supposedly non-partisan but if the
> reps are any indicator I wouldn't expect many around.

I know nothing of Keene politics, and don't really care to, since I don't live there. Obviously you don't live there either, otherwise you wouldn't have misspelled the name of the city repeatedly in your post. In any event, I was referring to the political/business climate on the other side of the Connecticut River, in response to a comment regarding Tim Johnson of WTSA in Brattleboro broadcasting grand openings of businesses in Brattleboro.

For some reason, some people see the word "liberal" as the cue to start a war of words, whether or not they have a clue what they're talking about. I have seen political arguments mar too many other boards at Radio-Info, and don't wish to see that happen here. From here on out I will make no further political references whatsoever on any Radio-Info board. Let's keep to the subject at hand.

Peace.

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