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SHOCKER! Meltzer exits CC Cleveland

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AllAccess.com is reporting that CC RVP/GM and Cleveland Market Manager JIM MELTZER is exiting after 8 years. Key word here is "exits".

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Meltzer exits CC Cleveland with UPDATED ANALYSIS

> AllAccess.com is reporting that CC RVP/GM and Cleveland
> Market Manager JIM MELTZER is exiting after 8 years. Key
> word here is "exits".
>

Fired? Interesting. Receipts must be down--I guess "Less is More" is also applying to CC employees too.

UPDATE:

After having had time to stew about this in the midst of research on Rule 23 class action attorney fees (someone's gotta get paid, may as well be me!), I have some thoughts here.

Meltzer, if I remember right, was probably associated (closely?) with Randy Michaels, persona non grata in Clear Channel world (and that's being kind. See, e.g., John Gorman and Ron Jacobs for additional insight.) Surprised he lasted this long.

When Meltzer came here in 1997, Jacor had just bought the prime real estate in Cleveland radio--the Nationwide cluster and WTAM/WMVX, as well as WKNR (for a time). WMJI was the top station then, securely placed as one of the top oldies stations in America (rivals: WCBS-FM, K-Earth, and maybe WOGL in Philly), with all sorts of awards coming out of its derriere. WGAR was one of the top country stations in America, with similar awards. WMMS had alot of heritage to its name, but was in the midst of the disasterous Neumann experiment (after dumping a very successful alternative format). WMVX was showing signs of life after a few years in the trenches.

What did each of those stations have in common? Live, local 24 hours a day--even overnights (WMJI's Sandy Bennett was one of the best overnight jocks--simply scrumptous). They also knew their places in life, and stayed there.

I have no doubt that Clear Channel's situation now (relying on "less is more," mass firings going back to that black day in 2001, e.g. Scottster and Danny Wright, then one a couple weeks ago, and now Meltzer's "exit") is related to the fact that CC was so keen on being big that they spared no expense getting there. They overpaid for stations across the country and now are scrambling to make up for it. They need money, and are cutting corners to spare expense where necessary. If stations aren't pulling in the dough, they don't dump the stations--they dump the managers, the jocks, the PDs, the promo staff. Sales is key.

And that's where CC is wrong.

Owning a radio station is not just bringing in money, money, money. It's providing a product that listeners want, so advertisers will want to lure those listeners to their stores or to their products. The station is merely a conduit for that transaction (and, yes, the station is also there to provide service, and entertainment...but let's ignore those important functions for the moment).

The station is a business, and like any business it succeeds by performing well, getting its target share, and defeating the competition. It then moves to either (a) keep its static share, or (b) expand.

Here's where the situation with CC breaks down. Because CC's interest is cash flow--and money to pay off the debt created by buying so many stations. As a result, the owners are interested in just enough of the three points above so that cash flow is maximum, while loss is negated or ignored. So, using as an example, WMJI--monster ratings, monster billing. WMMS--lesser ratings, somewhat monster billing. WGAR--monster ratings, monster billing. WMVX--so-so ratings, so-so billing (not WMJI level). WTAM--monster ratings, monster billing.

Now, we see that three stations bill huge; two stations bill less. (I'm leaving Kiss out of this for the time being--it really adds nothing to the argument I'm about to make.) Each of those stations cost about the same amount when purchased.

CC is interested in reaping the benefits of that billing, be it monster or otherwise. But, it will not allow, say, WMJI to compete with WMMS for those listeners; or WGAR to compete with WMJI for those listeners. That is--within the cluster, the competition is lacking. No station has an incentive to do better, gain more ratings, and, necessarily, bill its advertisers more. So, as a result--ratings stay essentially the same (WMJI has been level--very high, but level) for a long time. WGAR recently upticked, but that happens from time to time--and is independent of WGAR's operation. Normally it is also level--and relatively high.

So, seeing as how you're all probably bored as I am already too, Clear Channel has essentially instituted self-imposed caps and trade restraints. It will not allow the cluster to be harmed by an individual station's potential success beyond CC's own closely calculated success. This restraint has been harming the product of radio for years, and now, as we have seen, is harming Clear Channel itself.

The solution: either loosen the chains and let every man be for himself and compete like stations used to do, or sell the stations that aren't performing. Or both.

But, as John Lennon once famously said of Apple: "If they carry on like this, they'll be broke in 6 months." Maybe it's not that imminent and impending, but the CC business model right now is not working. Much like GM, CC is showing signs of its bad management decisions to the public.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Johnny Morgan on 11/30/05 04:56 PM.</FONT></P>
 
> AllAccess.com is reporting that CC RVP/GM and Cleveland
> Market Manager JIM MELTZER is exiting after 8 years. Key
> word here is "exits".
>

Jerry!
Jerry!
Jerry!
 
Re: Meltzer exits CC Cleveland with UPDATED ANALYSIS

None of the consequences you describe should have been unexpected, though probably nobody at Clear Channel thought of them, and by backing Bush and his gang, I'm sure nagging questions involving "restraint of trade" never gave them pause either.

But CC is clearly in trouble; NPR devoted a segment to their travails recently, touching on their plans to spin off their concert and possibly outdoor businesses. I've expected CC to implode for a while now, and their demise would frankly be the best thing for commercial radio. As I've said many times, you can own every single station in a market, but if nobody is listening to any of them, you're not going to stay in business. And that's where CC and, to a lesser extent, the other megachains are taking radio at a time when the medium needs most of all to redefine itself in the face of newer technologies. Their music formats are like soap operas, detectives and westerns on radio after the advent of television. Where are today's Gordon McLendon and Todd Storz?
 
Re: Meltzer exits CC Cleveland with UPDATED ANALYSIS

Clear Channel would be far better off if it would decide what sort of company it wants to be..much like Infinity, which decided it would concentrate on top 50 markets..and dump about half to three quarters of its radio station holdings..

Clear Channel's sheer size--around 12-hundred radio stations--is just too damn big to manage from a central location, or with regional managers, or however you want to slice it..

Paying wildly inflated prices for radio stations is nothing new--NextMedia's ill advised--and some would say outright stupid--purchase of the WHBC cluster for 43.5 million dollars in 2000 qualifies--but at some point, you have to take care of the debt servicing...if you can't..the house of cards falls faster than you think..
 
Re: Meltzer exits CC Cleveland with UPDATED ANALYSIS

> Clear Channel would be far better off if it would decide
> what sort of company it wants to be..much like Infinity,
> which decided it would concentrate on top 50 markets..and
> dump about half to three quarters of its radio station
> holdings..
>
> Clear Channel's sheer size--around 12-hundred radio
> stations--is just too damn big to manage from a central
> location, or with regional managers, or however you want to
> slice it..
>
> Paying wildly inflated prices for radio stations is nothing
> new--NextMedia's ill advised--and some would say outright
> stupid--purchase of the WHBC cluster for 43.5 million
> dollars in 2000 qualifies--but at some point, you have to
> take care of the debt servicing...if you can't..the house of
> cards falls faster than you think..
>


With that said look at Cumulus. First the Susquehanna purchase for 1.2 billion (33 stations), and now it's among the top three contenders for ABC Radio, a deal in the 2-3 billion range, athough it's been reported that Disney will have majority. I wonder who will manage the stations.

Cumulus is already the #2 broadcaster in terms of number of properties (over 300). With the Susq deal it got into 5 of the top 10 markets. ABC would be huge. Amazing for a company that got busted for poor accounting practices in 2000.<P ID="signature">______________
Everyone is entitled to my opinion.</P>
 
Re: Meltzer exits CC Cleveland with UPDATED ANALYSIS

> None of the consequences you describe should have been
> unexpected, though probably nobody at Clear Channel thought
> of them, and by backing Bush and his gang, I'm sure nagging
> questions involving "restraint of trade" never gave them
> pause either.

Clear Channel has nothing to woory about there: statutory and regulatory (FCC) rules permit their station ownership numbers, market-to-market.

And as for the non-competition amongst its own stations--that's not restraint of trade. To restrain trade there has to be an agreement between two parties--CC made a deal with and amongst itself. Stupid, but not illegal.
 
Re: Meltzer exits CC Cleveland with UPDATED ANALYSIS

> After having had time to stew about this in the midst of
> research on Rule 23 class action attorney fees (someone's
> gotta get paid, may as well be me!), I have some thoughts
> here.
>
> Meltzer, if I remember right, was probably associated
> (closely?) with Randy Michaels, persona non grata in Clear
> Channel world (and that's being kind. See, e.g., John
> Gorman and Ron Jacobs for additional insight.) Surprised he
> lasted this long.
>
> When Meltzer came here in 1997, Jacor had just bought the
> prime real estate in Cleveland radio--the Nationwide cluster
> and WTAM/WMVX, as well as WKNR (for a time). WMJI was the
> top station then, securely placed as one of the top oldies
> stations in America (rivals: WCBS-FM, K-Earth, and maybe
> WOGL in Philly), with all sorts of awards coming out of its
> derriere. WGAR was one of the top country stations in
> America, with similar awards. WMMS had alot of heritage to
> its name, but was in the midst of the disasterous Neumann
> experiment (after dumping a very successful alternative
> format). WMVX was showing signs of life after a few years
> in the trenches.
>
> What did each of those stations have in common? Live, local
> 24 hours a day--even overnights (WMJI's Sandy Bennett was
> one of the best overnight jocks--simply scrumptous). They
> also knew their places in life, and stayed there.
>
> I have no doubt that Clear Channel's situation now (relying
> on "less is more," mass firings going back to that black day
> in 2001, e.g. Scottster and Danny Wright, then one a couple
> weeks ago, and now Meltzer's "exit") is related to the fact
> that CC was so keen on being big that they spared no expense
> getting there. They overpaid for stations across the
> country and now are scrambling to make up for it. They need
> money, and are cutting corners to spare expense where
> necessary. If stations aren't pulling in the dough, they
> don't dump the stations--they dump the managers, the jocks,
> the PDs, the promo staff. Sales is key.
>
> And that's where CC is wrong.
>
> Owning a radio station is not just bringing in money, money,
> money. It's providing a product that listeners want, so
> advertisers will want to lure those listeners to their
> stores or to their products. The station is merely a
> conduit for that transaction (and, yes, the station is also
> there to provide service, and entertainment...but let's
> ignore those important functions for the moment).
>
> The station is a business, and like any business it succeeds
> by performing well, getting its target share, and defeating
> the competition. It then moves to either (a) keep its
> static share, or (b) expand.
>
> Here's where the situation with CC breaks down. Because
> CC's interest is cash flow--and money to pay off the debt
> created by buying so many stations. As a result, the owners
> are interested in just enough of the three points above so
> that cash flow is maximum, while loss is negated or ignored.
> So, using as an example, WMJI--monster ratings, monster
> billing. WMMS--lesser ratings, somewhat monster billing.
> WGAR--monster ratings, monster billing. WMVX--so-so
> ratings, so-so billing (not WMJI level). WTAM--monster
> ratings, monster billing.
>
> Now, we see that three stations bill huge; two stations bill
> less. (I'm leaving Kiss out of this for the time being--it
> really adds nothing to the argument I'm about to make.)
> Each of those stations cost about the same amount when
> purchased.
>
> CC is interested in reaping the benefits of that billing, be
> it monster or otherwise. But, it will not allow, say, WMJI
> to compete with WMMS for those listeners; or WGAR to compete
> with WMJI for those listeners. That is--within the cluster,
> the competition is lacking. No station has an incentive to
> do better, gain more ratings, and, necessarily, bill its
> advertisers more. So, as a result--ratings stay essentially
> the same (WMJI has been level--very high, but level) for a
> long time. WGAR recently upticked, but that happens from
> time to time--and is independent of WGAR's operation.
> Normally it is also level--and relatively high.
>
> So, seeing as how you're all probably bored as I am already
> too, Clear Channel has essentially instituted self-imposed
> caps and trade restraints. It will not allow the cluster to
> be harmed by an individual station's potential success
> beyond CC's own closely calculated success. This restraint
> has been harming the product of radio for years, and now, as
> we have seen, is harming Clear Channel itself.
>
> The solution: either loosen the chains and let every man be
> for himself and compete like stations used to do, or sell
> the stations that aren't performing. Or both.
>
> But, as John Lennon once famously said of Apple: "If they
> carry on like this, they'll be broke in 6 months." Maybe
> it's not that imminent and impending, but the CC business
> model right now is not working. Much like GM, CC is showing
> signs of its bad management decisions to the public.
>
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This, sir, is one of the finer posts to appear on this board in some time. Well-reasoned, nicely stated. Regards from the readers and posters on the Buffalo-Rochester board.</font>
 
Re: Meltzer exits CC Cleveland with UPDATED ANALYSIS

>
> And as for the non-competition amongst its own
> stations--that's not restraint of trade. To restrain trade
> there has to be an agreement between two parties--CC made a
> deal with and amongst itself.
<font face="times new roman" size="3" color="330066">
Some might contend that CC made a deal with the devil. (And is now paying the price.)</font>


> Stupid, but not illegal.
>
 
Re: Meltzer exits CC Cleveland with UPDATED ANALYSIS

> The solution: either loosen the chains and let every man be
> for himself and compete like stations used to do, or sell
> the stations that aren't performing. Or both.

That's how Natiowide ran it's clusters. Each station was given a like budget, give or take a bit, but each STATION was encouraged to WIN. And that meant even beating the sister stations. There wasn't "cluster programming". Program to WIN was the edict. Get as much cume and TSL as possible and your sister stations be damned. Worked well for Nationwide, and for it's Cleveland cluster the short time they were owned by Nationwide.

I was driving into Cleveland last weekend. Painfully listening to WMJI. It hurts me professional and emotionally to listen to that station knowing what it was like just a scant 4 years ago. I then flipped over to WGAR and caught a break with Chuck Collier, who was wonderful to listen to. A great communicator. Anyway, he was doing a paid spot. Made it sound great. BUT, it was almost 2 minutes. WMJI's jocks barely talk that much in an hour. WMJI, the #1 rated and billing station, has NO PERSONALITY outside of AM drive. A Crime.

I heard the new Top of the Hour on MJI as well. No more KRTH Top, which was old school "top of the world". Now it's barely noticeable.

Ms. Stevens, I implore you to please restore personality to the country's #1 oldies station, and make it sound FUN again. 3-4 dead segues per hour isn't cuttin' it. Ask someone for some old airchecks from 1999-2000. Now that was radio!<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Meltzer exits CC Cleveland with UPDATED ANALYSIS

> They overpaid for stations across the
> country and now are scrambling to make up for it. They need
> money, and are cutting corners to spare expense where
> necessary.


That's just not true. That's the standard internet mistaken lie being repeated yet again.

The truth: The overwhelming majority of Clear Channel's stations came through mergers and other stock transactions -- no actual cash (or debt) was involved. There is very little debt to service.

Any thought or analysis based upon this standard internet lie is wrong. Almost every comment made by every poster in this thread is wrong. Yes, Clear Channel clearly wants to do some more expense cutting (exits happen this time of year to get those expenses off the books before the new year) -- and, by the way, contrary to what some may assume, I think that's a mistake -- but that expense cutting has virtually nothing to do with the servicing of a relatively tiny debt.
 
Re: Meltzer exits CC Cleveland with UPDATED ANALYSIS

> > They overpaid for stations across the
> > country and now are scrambling to make up for it. They
> need
> > money, and are cutting corners to spare expense where
> > necessary.
>
>
> That's just not true. That's the standard internet mistaken
> lie being repeated yet again.
>
> The truth: The overwhelming majority of Clear Channel's
> stations came through mergers and other stock transactions
> -- no actual cash (or debt) was involved. There is very
> little debt to service.
>
> Any thought or analysis based upon this standard internet
> lie is wrong. Almost every comment made by every poster in
> this thread is wrong. Yes, Clear Channel clearly wants to
> do some more expense cutting (exits happen this time of year
> to get those expenses off the books before the new year) --
> and, by the way, contrary to what some may assume, I think
> that's a mistake -- but that expense cutting has virtually
> nothing to do with the servicing of a relatively tiny debt.
>

CC didn't inherit any of Jacor's substantial debt? None of AM-FM?

I find that hard to believe.

Secondly, if the analysis regarding cluster competition is incorrect, please correct it for us. Show us where, how, and when WMMS-WMVX-WMJI-WGAR-WTAM made any significant (hell, even insignificant) talent changes, musical adaptations, format revisions, etc. to take them well out of the league of the other stations.

I await your response.
 
Re: Meltzer exits CC Cleveland with UPDATED ANALYSIS

> CC didn't inherit any of Jacor's substantial debt? None of
> AM-FM?
>
> I find that hard to believe.


But you don't know, do you? You're wanting to "believe" some oft-repeated line, but you don't really know anything about it, do you?

Why do people do that??? Seriously...why do people keep "believing" and repeating things they read on the internet without checking them out and really learning what these things are all about???

CCU's amount of debt is freely available at every financial website, but you don't even check...you just repeat the standard internet message board mistaken lie as if it makes you look like you're smart and know what you're talking about. That's really sad. Do the work yourself...go look it up and see that CCU's debt is very minor...if you don't understand it, find someone you know who does and have it explained...it's the only way you'll learn and stop repeating the standard internet message board mistaken lie.



> Secondly, if the analysis regarding cluster competition is
> incorrect, please correct it for us. Show us where, how,
> and when WMMS-WMVX-WMJI-WGAR-WTAM made any significant
> (hell, even insignificant) talent changes, musical
> adaptations, format revisions, etc. to take them well out of
> the league of the other stations.
>
> I await your response.


I have no comment on that...that's not what I was talking about.

I'm not picking on you in particular; I'm just really tired of certain falsehoods being repeated on the internet and the deeply flawed "analysis" that comes out of it.
 
Re: Meltzer exits CC Cleveland with UPDATED ANALYSIS

> > CC didn't inherit any of Jacor's substantial debt? None
> of
> > AM-FM?
> >
> > I find that hard to believe.
>
>
> But you don't know, do you? You're wanting to "believe"
> some oft-repeated line, but you don't really know anything
> about it, do you?
>
> Why do people do that??? Seriously...why do people keep
> "believing" and repeating things they read on the internet
> without checking them out and really learning what these
> things are all about???
>
> CCU's amount of debt is freely available at every financial
> website, but you don't even check...you just repeat the
> standard internet message board mistaken lie as if it makes
> you look like you're smart and know what you're talking
> about. That's really sad. Do the work yourself...go look
> it up and see that CCU's debt is very minor...if you don't
> understand it, find someone you know who does and have it
> explained...it's the only way you'll learn and stop
> repeating the standard internet message board mistaken lie.

Clear Channel has about $7 billion in current long-term debt. Good enough for Moody's to have a "Baa3" credit rating, its lowest investor-grade rating. Moody's also predicts "Outlook Negative". (Moody's, August 27, 2005; Bloomberg, April 30, 2005).

CC's had that debt rating since at least 1999, and in August 2005, Moody's passed on an upgrade. That negative outlook's gotta hurt.

There were concerns about CC's debt load as far back as July 2002, when Randy Michaels was bumped out. (LA Times, July 25, 2002). In March 2002, that debt load was $9 billion, and losses were mounting. (Orlando Sentinel, March 3, 2002). Washington Post, May 29, 2002: "Clear Channel also is shouldering $ 8 billion in debt -- the legacy of its deal-a-minute expansion spree."

For the record, here's the assumed debt from CC's big deals:

Heftel, 1996--118 mil
Jacor, 1998--1.2 billion
AM/FM, 1999--6.1 billion (!) (speaks more to the idiotic combination led by Chancellor that brought about AM/FM, huh?)
SFX, 2000--1.1 billion
Ackerly, 2001--294 million

Sources: Moody's; NY Times; LA Times; Washington Post; Bloomberg; Orlando Sentinel; Wall Street Journal
 
Re: Meltzer exits CC Cleveland with UPDATED ANALYSIS

Okay....now compare debt against asset value and market capitalization and interest expense against operating income, and you'll see that CCU's debt is nowhere near the issue that internet message board posters love to claim it is.
 
Re: Meltzer exits CC Cleveland with UPDATED ANALYSIS

> Okay....now compare debt against asset value and market
> capitalization and interest expense against operating
> income, and you'll see that CCU's debt is nowhere near the
> issue that internet message board posters love to claim it
> is.
>

But that was Moody's whole issue--CC hasn't been able, as of late, to tranfer that debt into capital. The debt--not including concert, which is calculated separately, since CC spun it into a separate outfit--is hanging out there like Stern's ass on MTV.

According to Forbes (rounding off):

Debt/equity ratio--91

Debt to assets (Q2, 2005)--7.8/2.7

Interest expense/operating income: 105.5/405.5 (Q2, 2005)
 
Re: Meltzer exits CC Cleveland with UPDATED ANALYSIS

> > Okay....now compare debt against asset value and market
> > capitalization and interest expense against operating
> > income, and you'll see that CCU's debt is nowhere near the
>
> > issue that internet message board posters love to claim it
>
> > is.
> >
>
> But that was Moody's whole issue--CC hasn't been able, as of
> late, to tranfer that debt into capital. The debt--not
> including concert, which is calculated separately, since CC
> spun it into a separate outfit--is hanging out there like
> Stern's ass on MTV.
>
> According to Forbes (rounding off):
>
> Debt/equity ratio--91
>
> Debt to assets (Q2, 2005)--7.8/2.7
>
> Interest expense/operating income: 105.5/405.5 (Q2, 2005)
>


Are these numbers AFTER the 4.5B write-down (off) about this time last year?
 
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> > According to Forbes (rounding off):
> >
> > Debt/equity ratio--91
> >
> > Debt to assets (Q2, 2005)--7.8/2.7
> >
> > Interest expense/operating income: 105.5/405.5 (Q2, 2005)
> >
>
>
> Are these numbers AFTER the 4.5B write-down (off) about this
> time last year?
>

Don't know.

The Q2, 2005 numbers are straight from CC's prospectus, as posted on it's website. I would assume they are after the purported write-down/off.

The Forbes numbers are "most recent data" (whatever that means--I take it also to be after the purported write-off).
 
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> Are these numbers AFTER the 4.5B write-down (off) about this
> time last year?


Yes....and it's "down!"


Huge difference!
 
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