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Short Songs (~3 minutes unedited)

The longest commercially-released 7" 45 I've seen is the B-side of Bruce Springsteen's "Fire" -- the live version of "Incident On 57th Street" running just over 10 minutes!


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MacArthur Park was 7:21, and it fit on one side of a 45.
It would be easy to edit. KTUC plays the Richard Harris version, which is quite long, and his contribution is unnecessary and unwelcome. Just make it an instrumental. WDBJ Roanoke VA used to advertise their news with that music around 1970, but I didn't know what it was.
 
Also weren't there 45 EPs with multiple tracks that could run possibly up to 10 minutes?

RCA invented the 45 (around the same time that CBS/Columbia invented the 33). In the early days, they recorded classical music on 45s, and the sides ran about ten minutes. Buying a full symphony on 45 meant a boxed set.
 
I heard an interesting article somewhere recently about YouTube's influence on music, especially pop and dance. YouTube only recognizes a "play" when a song/video is played for more than (I think) 20 seconds, so there are a whole bunch of songs that don't get going for pretty much exactly 20 seconds. They gave the example of Despacito, which on YouTube has 20 seconds of preamble and ten more seconds of intro before getting into the song itself.

Once you start noticing the 20-second thing, you see it on all sorts of tracks - for instance, a recent UK #1 song, Afraid to Feel by LF System:
 
RCA invented the 45 (around the same time that CBS/Columbia invented the 33). In the early days, they recorded classical music on 45s, and the sides ran about ten minutes. Buying a full symphony on 45 meant a boxed set.

Techmoan had a video on You Tube about the format war between 45's and 33's:


Putting full symphonies on 45s really didn't sound like a very good idea.
 
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Techmoan had a video on You Tube about the format war between 45's and 33's:

It's an interesting story, but not the first time there was such a thing as format wars with records. The original phonograph was invented by Thomas Edison, and used a wax cylinder as it's storage medium. Edison owned the patent on the device and the record. Subsequent inventors came along wanting to bypass Edison's patent, and that led to flat discs as storage medium. They were obviously incompatible. That was by design. If you wanted music on disc, you had to buy a disc player. There wasn't a major sound difference between cylinder or disc, but discs were easier to duplicate. So in order to have a recording industry, you needed a medium that was cheap & easy to duplicate. That's why the disc ultimately replaced the cylinder.
 
The longest commercially-released 7" 45 I've seen is the B-side of Bruce Springsteen's "Fire" -- the live version of "Incident On 57th Street" running just over 10 minutes!


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Does that thing play through without skipping?
 
I remember purchasing extended length "Disco 45s" in the late 70s and early 80s because I specifically wanted to hear more of a song.

I've also heard about the progressive movement of the early 70s where artists preferred to create longer songs.

So, this current pop trend is the opposite of both of the above trends, yes? I guess that in the past people had fewer options and didn't mind listening to longer selections, whereas today's young people, who have much more to choose from, have developed shorter attention spans.
 
However, those were 12 inches in diameter. Traditional 45s were 7. I believe they used the 12 inch size to fit the turntables used in discos, so they could be slip cued.
Yes, of course that's true. But I was thinking about song length and how disappointed I would have been if one of my favorite songs had been super short. I guess the Tik Tok generation likes it this way, but I'm slowly becoming a geezer, so I don't get it.
 
TikTok began as a platform for short videos. Short as in :15. Now it's longer, but people like short videos on TikTok.

The OP asked if the shorter songs were for radio. But I think it's more likely for TikTok.
I don't know, it seems like every 3rd video has "Night Changes" by One Direction or One Direction fans.
 
TikTok began as a platform for short videos. Short as in :15. Now it's longer, but people like short videos on TikTok.

The OP asked if the shorter songs were for radio. But I think it's more likely for TikTok.
So, every 15 seconds you have to do something? That begins to sound like, "work"!

The Beatles' "Her Majesty" clocks in at 26 seconds!
 
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