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Somebody at "one Wilmington station" seems to think because he lifts and repeats it, it's original. At least as long as nobody notices he got it from somebody else.
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Somebody at "one Wilmington station" seems to think because he lifts and repeats it, it's original. At least as long as nobody notices he got it from somebody else.
Hey, more slander. Let's get the exacta and go for racism too, Fred.
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FredLeonard
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This individual operates under the pretense of being a "journalist." Apparently, these days there are no standards as to who can claim the title: People at Fox. Baba Wawa. And, yes, many talk show hosts. Radio is filled with radio geeks, who dreamed of being Larry LuJack or Dave Baum, realized too late their lack of personality and talent, who ended up doing news and pretentiously calling themselves "journalists" - despite a complete lack of qualifications: playing records at a school radio station but never taking journalism classes or writing for the school newspaper. No wonder radio news weenies think paraphrasing a press release and getting a sound bite from some flack constitutes "reporting."
This individual operates under the pretense of being a "journalist." Apparently, these days there are no standards as to who can claim the title:
To the best of my knowledge, there never have been standards as such. There is no certification, no exam to pass, no degree required.
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FredLeonard
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To the best of my knowledge, there never have been standards as such. There is no certification, no exam to pass, no degree required.
My point exactly. Maybe there should be. The more anyone flaunts the title "journalist," the less likely they are actually to be one.
My point exactly. Maybe there should be.
Who would you suggest come up with the standard?
Who would you suggest come up with the standard?
Fred, of course. Anyone that disagrees with him is automatically disqualified.
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FredLeonard
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Who would you suggest come up with the standard?
Anyone who is serious about a career in "journalism" will major in it, work for the university newspaper, and get some experience at a newspaper or wire service getting their hands dirty with the actual work - and drudgery - of news gathering, before they decide to become a minor local celebrity. Like, for example, Sara Ganim. Too bad there aren't more like her.
Al Massitti, one of the local talkers in Wilmington on the AM dial, spent many years as a reporter and later as a columnist with the Wilmington News Journal. Even though I may not agree with some things he says on his show, I do find when he's discussing actual news items of the day and not just ranting [on those ranting days he appears to have forgotten to take his meds - haha]. Most of the time though Al seems to use his skills as a former reporter to dig into whatever story or issue he's discussing, which makes listening to his show a better experience than many of the other AM radio talkers, both local and national who are doing what Fred mentioned.
That's seems to be what makes NPR programming better, even with the dumbing down, their folks have had prior skills as reporters, who studied Journalism. From what I understand, Limbaugh, Beck, and Hannity do not have college degrees even in basket weaving or advanced truck driving much less Journalism. They simply have a high school diploma so they might have worked for their high school paper, but they didn't study college level Journalism, nor have prior experience as a real reporter. Funny how the masses on the right think these guys know it all and the better educated folks at NPR they consider to be idiots. Go figure.
That's seems to be what makes NPR programming better, even with the dumbing down, their folks have had prior skills as reporters, who studied Journalism. From what I understand, Limbaugh, Beck, and Hannity do not have college degrees even in basket weaving or advanced truck driving much less Journalism. They simply have a high school diploma so they might have worked for their high school paper, but they didn't study college level Journalism, nor have prior experience as a real reporter. Funny how the masses on the right think these guys know it all and the better educated folks at NPR they consider to be idiots. Go figure.
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FredLeonard
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Then again, Bill O'Reilly has a BA in history from Marist College and was once a CBS News and ABC News correspondent. Anybody can sell out.
Mark Levin has a BA in political science and a law degree (JD). He could have gone anywhere but he got both from Temple.
Dennis Miller has a degree in journalism and used to anchor "Weekend Update."
Mark Levin has a BA in political science and a law degree (JD). He could have gone anywhere but he got both from Temple.
Dennis Miller has a degree in journalism and used to anchor "Weekend Update."
Al Massitti, one of the local talkers in Wilmington on the AM dial, spent many years as a reporter and later as a columnist with the Wilmington News Journal. Even though I may not agree with some things he says on his show, I do find when he's discussing actual news items of the day and not just ranting [on those ranting days he appears to have forgotten to take his meds - haha]. Most of the time though Al seems to use his skills as a former reporter to dig into whatever story or issue he's discussing, which makes listening to his show a better experience than many of the other AM radio talkers, both local and national who are doing what Fred mentioned.
That's seems to be what makes NPR programming better, even with the dumbing down, their folks have had prior skills as reporters, who studied Journalism. From what I understand, Limbaugh, Beck, and Hannity do not have college degrees even in basket weaving or advanced truck driving much less Journalism. They simply have a high school diploma so they might have worked for their high school paper, but they didn't study college level Journalism, nor have prior experience as a real reporter. Funny how the masses on the right think these guys know it all and the better educated folks at NPR they consider to be idiots. Go figure.
I hate to break two things to you:
1. The hosts you mentioned don't claim to be "journalists".
2. It's not that hard to get a degree in Journalism or Communications. Trust me, I know from personal experience. I was able to pull a 3.95 without even trying. A journalism or communications degree is barely worth the paper it's printed on.
A journalism or communications degree is barely worth the paper it's printed on.
There IS something to be said for making the effort. At least being exposed to the foundations of the industry you seek to join. I'd say that's at least helpful to the person doing the job.
There IS something to be said for making the effort. At least being exposed to the foundations of the industry you seek to join. I'd say that's at least helpful to the person doing the job.
Sure, if it helps you get your foot in the door that's great. But to belittle anyone who didn't get a journalism or communications degree as somehow "less intelligent" than some hushed-voice guy on NPR is just silly.
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FredLeonard
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At NPR, they tend to be people with liberal arts degrees from elite, selective colleges. Those who have journalism degrees get them in grad school from places like Columbia.
Silly? Only to those lacking higher education (and intelligence).
If the shoe fits...
Silly? Only to those lacking higher education (and intelligence).
If the shoe fits...
At NPR, they tend to be people with liberal arts degrees from elite, selective colleges. Those who have journalism degrees get them in grad school from places like Columbia.
Silly? Only to those lacking higher education (and intelligence).
If the shoe fits...
What was your GPA, Einstein?
I assume you have specific examples of this, or are you just making up lies again?
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At NPR, they tend to be people with liberal arts degrees from elite, selective colleges.
Yep. Noah Adams went to Morehead State. He sold used cars before he got into public radio.
Yep. Noah Adams went to Morehead State. He sold used cars before he got into public radio.
Sounds like a Rhodes Scholar if I ever saw one.
Sounds like a Rhodes Scholar if I ever saw one.
What's wrong with Morehead State?
What's wrong with Morehead State?
Nothing. I'm talking about the car salesman part.
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