Wow, I'm surprised HRC won in LDS SLC.
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Should ABC move Kimmel and Nightline back to their original slots?
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Wow, I'm surprised HRC won in LDS SLC.
I think his Jimmy Carter japes were somewhat less respectful, however.
Could be. I don't recall. Even SNL was pretty gentle with Carter. Here in California, the nickname "Governor Moonbeam" has recently been revived for Jerry Brown, who was previously Gov from 75 - 83. Made me nostalgic because I'm pretty sure Carson coined the nickname in his monologue.
Yes, I was surprised by that, too. HRC won by 56% in Salt Lake City. But I've also learned that LDS members are now a minority in SLC. It just underlines how different cities and rural areas are these days. For comparison, Hillary got only 27% of the vote in Utah as a whole.
I remember the jokes about Jerry Brown's presidential campaign, and the possibility of Linda Ronstadt's becoming First Lady.
What a difference from the days when coffee was a scarcity in SLC! I also recall an amusing bumper sticker celebrating Utah's centennial that read, "Utah: 1896-1996 / 50 Years of Progress."
I didn't know this until I was there on business, but SLC was one of the few cities that once had a Hard Rock Café that shut down.
Jerry Brown first ran for Governor in 1974 - he succeeded Ronald Reagan. I recall that during the Democratic primary, his main opponent was San Francisco Mayor Joe Alioto. Alioto liked to point out that Brown was a bachelor, implying that he must be gay. He'd say things like, "No wife, no girlfriend. You can speculate..."
Can you imagine a current Mayor of San Francisco - and a liberal Democrat at that - exploiting homophobia to get votes?
Yes it would hurt the host egos by moving them to a later slot (noone wants to tell people there shows is at 1am) but the average age that is watching Colbert on TV is 61, that is the catheter and walk in bathtub demo, not really desirable for the networks. There are local affiliates that want to push back the late night talkers back, many of Hearst ABC's affiliates have hour long news and many of those are number 1 in just the 1030 half hour.
In 1977, amid a fierce mayoral campaign between Mario Cuomo and Ed Koch, an execrable poster appeared that urged New Yorkers to "Vote for Cuomo, not the h*mo." Fast-forward to 2018, when gubernatorial candidate Cynthia Nixon, a lesbian, asked New Yorkers to "Vote for the h*mo, not for the Cuomo."
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Definitely. I wonder how much of this is because of antiquated way ratings are collected in small markets. NBC won't get ratings data from the Paducah-Gape Girardeau market until several weeks after the fact due to the use of diaries. For the most part, networks can't wait weeks to decide if a programming tweak was successful, since they have nearly instant data from the metered large markets.
Which is where they're based. Ted Turner tried to sell people that basing CNN in Atlanta instead of NY or LA would make his channel more responsive to the heartland. But he hasn't seen the demographic data we see today. Metro Atlanta is not much different from other cities. Of course you travel to Marietta or out a little further, and it's pickups and shotguns.
The other thing is that the audiences for most of the talk shows, regardless if we're talking late night or afternoon, are coming from either LA or NY. If you're on a stage telling jokes to these people, and you don't have chicken wire or something else protecting you, you better be saying what they want to hear. Or you'll be hearing crickets.
In the early 90s, they thought Orlando would be the next Hoyllwod with Disney/MGM and Orlando, but Nickelodeon moved production from USF in Orlando because they had trouble getting the talent from NYC and Hollywood to come to Orlando, CNN has moved it's on air talent out of Atlanta, even Fox News broadcasts out of NYC, you couldn't get any on air talent to move to Oklahoma City, rural areas tend be older and whiter also, the $ is in the major markets
While Anderson Cooper is in NYC, and Wolf Blitzer in in DC, CNN still bases a lot of its standard news coverage in Atlanta. In fact I've noticed that they've lately moved more of CNN operations to its original home on Techwood Drive.
As for the next Hollywood, it appears to be in Vancouver, and movie companies have no trouble getting big stars to work there.
no bomb sent to CNN HQ in Atlanta
Nope. The one sent to NY was addressed to "John Brenan." If they mean the former CIA Director, he works for NBC, and he's based in DC. I'm told most of the CNN NY operations have moved out of the Time Warner Building to another nearby building.
Maybe the news gathering operation is largely at CNN Center in Atlanta, but the on-camera talent is almost entirely in New York or DC. Even the talent hosting nondescript hours of "CNN Newsroom" in the late morning.
Not "next" Hollywood - Vancouver (and other Canadian cities) have been another 'Hollywood' for a couple of decades, already. I've told this story before - over a decade ago, I was watching an episode of "The X Files" set in San Francisco. Naturally, they had the typical brief establishing shots of cable cars going uphill, Coit Tower, or whatever. Then the scene on "Fisherman's Wharf" - looking very authentic...docks, boats, etc...but then the camera pans to the south to what should be Telegraph Hill, which is filled with attached houses and apartment buildings. But the buildings were gone, and in their place was a huge grove of evergreen trees. Vancouver...
Yes I know...I was responding to the comment that a company had trouble getting talent from NY or LA to go to Orlando. Yet they have no trouble going to Vancouver or other foreign locations.
don't seem have trouble in Georgia either, but I guess they don't need news anchors
I don't see it as a function of geography, or having trouble getting people in certain parts of the country.
The Weather Channel is also based in Atlanta, and most of their anchors are there.
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