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Should Another Portland Talk Station Switch to Progressive Talk?

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Up till a few weeks ago, Portand held the record as the market with the MOST commercial Talk stations... seven. (620, 860, 970, 1190, 1360, 1550, 101.1) 1550 KKOV recently returned to Adult Standards. And now KPOJ is Sports. But you'd think some of those lesser Talk stations, 860, 970, 1360, would consider going with Progressive Talk, rather than trying to divide the Conservative Talk audience into so many pieces. KPOJ's ratings were usually third in Portland, behind KEX and KXL, better than 860, 970 or 1360.

Clear Channel did the same in Miami and San Diego a few years ago as it just did to KPOJ. They blew up Progressive Talk on 940 WINZ and 1360 KLSD, and put Fox Sports on the stations. Miami now has four Sports stations, San Diego three. The ratings as Sports have been lower on both stations than as Progressive Talk.

KPOJ didn't have the ratings it once had. It had been Portland's #2 Talk station at one point, just behind KEX. But for a station that only had a morning show and carried syndicated Progressive Talk the rest of the day, it did OK in the ratings. I'm sure it's not going to do any better as one of three Sports stations. But maybe the demographics will be lower.

It's wrong to say Progressive Talk has been hurt by People Meters. Nearly ALL Talk stations have been hurt since the move away from diaries. In the ten largest markets, only four Talk stations make their city's Top 10 in the latest ratings... KFI LA, WGN & WLS Chicago and WSB Atlanta. No Portland Talk station is in the Top 10. The move to FM hasn't really helped KXL much. KEX had been as high as #2 a few years ago. It seems it's harder to get an audience for Talk these days.

By the way, NPR is NOT a Progressive Talk outlet, even though a few of its hosts such as Terry Gross and Diane Rehm lean liberal. Most of the time when you're listening to Morning Edition or All Things Considered, the two drivetime programs, you might hear about hunger in sub-Saharan Africa or a Jazz artist trying to rebuild his home and career in New Orleans and THINK that's liberal. As Steven Colbert jokes, "The truth has a definate liberal slant."
 
Progressive talk hasn't been hurt by PPM...it has been hurt by no one listing to those stations.

Even in the most liberal markets, progressive talk fails in the ratings game.
 
It could be that Fox Sports Network synd by CC and CBS Sports done in assoc. with Cumulus want clearances for their programs and ads, no matter what the ratings are. Having a huge network to run spots is key.

CC Boston put prog talk on 1200 and 1430 then switched both to Spanish. Eventually 1200 went to conservative talk but lasted about 2 1/2 yrs (slightly longer than the prog talk did), doomed by low ratings/earnings. Now they run comedy but I wouldn't be surprised if the 1200 went to Fox sports
to generate more revenue for the company in that way. The ratings could still be low but the earnings may make up for that. Prog talk did air as brokered on 1510
for awhile but Jeff Santos got squeezed out when station owners opted for sports (NBC, Yahoo) and he'd had $ troubles before then (lost rights to run shows like Steph Miller) The trend is less personnel at stations (sat. fed, maybe SOME local shows) and for sports. Apparently in Boston people care more about Gronk's injury than political topics. Or so it seems. (Santos does have one hr on a Worc station and one on a smaller Boston station with his own show)
 
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