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Should 'DVE morning show be syndicated?

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kenhawk1160

OK gang, I'm getting a little bored with the lack of controversy on this board, so I'm going to stir things up if I can do it.

With all the satellite-delivered morning shows now available, does anyone believe that the morning show on WDVE be one of them? Or should they be left the hometown heroes of morning radio?

I say that while these guys are very talented, they would have to adjust their content in order to be relatable to a national radio audience, and that one of the reasons why DVE is the top-ranked morning show in Pittsburgh is because of its localism, as well as its entertainment. I say it's best left as-is.

I want to know what you think. Bring it on!
 
It seems like everyone disappeared following the editing by the admin. I'll throw in my two cents. While the DVE morning show remains funny, I think its geared far to close to Pittsburgh, and wouldn't work out of Pittsburgh, Wheeling, Johnstown, or perhaps Youngstown. Look at the syndication failure of Jim Quinn, who's commentary is on a national political scale. Quinn probably won't reach out much farther, but will remain a Pittsburgh radio legend.

Another example however, is Glenn Beck. Beck worked in Baltimore, as well as Pittsburgh, and got his talk break in Tampa. He polished it, drove syndication, and now is on national television.

I realize I'm comparing a humor filled morning show to talk show hosts, but its hard to take the Pittsburgh out of the person.
 
I couldn't agree more with both of you on the DVE morning show. DVE is definitely
meant to be local for the legend it is in Pittsburgh.
 
The real question is: how long is C____ C_____ going to let the two of them coast before they finally pull the plug? The thrill is gone.
 
The question is should the 'DVE Morning Show be syndicated, not could it be syndicated.

Currently, since the show is not syndicated, they use a great deal of Pittsburgh-based material. That's because they're good at playing to their audience. I have no doubt that given the entire nation for inspiration, they could come up with funny bits that would appeal to a wider audience if they had to. So, even though that's not what was asked, I think that Jim and Randy could adjust their material to appeal to an audience beyond Pittsburgh and could be successful syndicated.

But, I don't see where there's all that much for them to gain by risking losing what they've got going locally to take a shot at wider success with morning syndication.

However, I think that if they were to do what I've long praised them for, an evening show in front of a live audience, I think they could carve out a real nice niche for themselves with a two-hour national, evening radio show. I think that with a good venue with a live audience, and live musicians interspersed between live radio sketches and skits, they could create a Friday or Saturday night show that could be very successful.
 
how about 'does the 'dve morning show have the ability to have a morning show that could be sydicated'...part of the responsibility belongs to the talent...can you, for four hours, keep somebody interested in what you have to say, if they are in toledo, ohio...what do you think?...
 
Radio_Realist said:
However, I think that if they were to do what I've long praised them for, an evening show in front of a live audience, I think they could carve out a real nice niche for themselves with a two-hour national, evening radio show. I think that with a good venue with a live audience, and live musicians interspersed between live radio sketches and skits, they could create a Friday or Saturday night show that could be very successful.
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Nice idea, Realist.
 
can you, for four hours, keep somebody interested in what you have to say,

Of course not. But that's not how radio works. Morning radio is designed for people to catch thirty minutes to an hour while on their way to work. That's not to say there aren't people who stay tuned in for hours at a stretch. But such people aren't the primary target. "Drive time" radio is designed for people who are driving to and from work.
 
Radio_Realist said:
"Drive time" radio is designed for people who are driving to and from work.
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That's exactly why consultants and PD's hammer into jocks' heads the importance of time and temperature checks in AM drive. I don't know of any AM drive show that has a TSL of your average listener staying there for the full four hours. I'm an above-average listener, and even I don't listen that hard.
 
No way should DVE's morning show go to a national audience. Now, if CC didn't already have Bob and Tom, and John boy and Billy, then may be it would make sense for that to happen.
 
I think the conversation actually took place back when Paulsen was there, and they felt they'd have to shelve too many of the show's characters because they wouldn't play outside of the Burgh.
 
If Jim and Randy were to attempt to go national, it would require some changes to their show, but not as many as you might think. Even though it's not as funny as it used to be, it's still one of the funniest morning shows on the air. And even though much of their humor is Pittsburgh flavored, it isn't funny because it's local. It's funny. It's local. Both statements are true, but they aren't dependent on each other.

Even skit characters like the Pants Anat (or is it Pants &@) people are very funny on their own merits. Funny stupid people are funny no matter what kind of accents they have. People from Astabula, Ohio should find dumb yinzers as funny as Pittsburghers find skits about stupid California Valley Girls and Surfer Dudes. The Yinzers are as capable of entertaining people outside of Pittsburgh as Bill and Ted were in their Excellent Adventure, or as Jay and Silent Bob.

If you listen to their show, you can tell that they follow the local news as inspiration for some of their skits, but they're just as funny when they use national news articles as skit themes. Baghdad Bob (I hope he dies) would be funny anywhere. So would Bobby Subgum.

I don't recommend that they attempt to do a national syndication deal, unless they are offered really, really big piles of money.

But, I still think that doing a one or two hour live night time show in front of an audience for syndication would be a good supplemental move for them. If they did their best skits of each week live in front of a crowd of drunken yinzers, and taped it for syndication, I think they'd make fairly nice piles of extra money.

BTW, I've never been to Minnesota at all, and I enjoy the jokes about Lake Woebegone.
 
i think what i was trying to say in my earlier post is what partimer said...and no, after you strip away the pittsburgh content...it would be hard for them to have a show. that is what i meant about it being all the talent...no steelers, no greentree hill, no hienz field...i've never had to do it, but i'd imagine it would be difficult...probably twice a week my opening break is about something that happened on my way to work...
 
actually, the average time to drive to work, start to finish, is around 35 minutes...that whole "10 minutes" thing, always brought up in meetings, annoyed me...but, that being said...35 mins is 2 quarter hours...could you get yourself to listen to you THAT long?...its a long time, and ample time for someone to get bored, antsy, whatever...i've changed the station during a song i like, just to see if there might be a song i like BETTER...after all, it only takes about 10 secords to flip thru 10 stations....
 
lash said:
It seems like everyone disappeared following the editing by the admin. I'll throw in my two cents. While the DVE morning show remains funny, I think its geared far to close to Pittsburgh, and wouldn't work out of Pittsburgh, Wheeling, Johnstown, or perhaps Youngstown. Look at the syndication failure of Jim Quinn, who's commentary is on a national political scale. Quinn probably won't reach out much farther, but will remain a Pittsburgh radio legend.
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Eh, Quinn's got ...what, 6 stations? That's not terrible unless he's been gunning for national syndication. Maybe he has, since Clear Channel put him on XM. That seems to be CC's way of shutting up their long time hosts who flopped in syndication.
 
Bob & Tom a better example of why to stay local than Glen Beck. When they were just an Indy morning show they were wickedly funny, but again to get the humor you had to know something about the town and how it viewed itself. Syndication has completely taken the edge off of them. Even ruined the show they do the morning of the 500.

Syndication would do the same for Randy & Jimmy.
 
Snafu said:
Bob & Tom a better example of why to stay local than Glen Beck. When they were just an Indy morning show they were wickedly funny, but again to get the humor you had to know something about the town and how it viewed itself. Syndication has completely taken the edge off of them. Even ruined the show they do the morning of the 500.

Syndication would do the same for Randy & Jimmy.
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But everyone's still missing the point: Jim and Randy are boring as $hit. They hardly ever do any bits any more. They just sit there and gab at each other for four hours. These's no real effort anymore. You could just as easily syndicate dead air.
 
RadioMoo said:
But everyone's still missing the point: Jim and Randy are boring as $hit. They hardly ever do any bits any more. They just sit there and gab at each other for four hours. These's no real effort anymore. You could just as easily syndicate dead air.
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They still do the bits...they're not as wall-to-wall as they were back in the days of Paulsen and Krenn, and that isn't bad. I've even heard bits from the morning show played back in other dayparts. If they were still doing skits like "Bradly and Victor's Cosmetic Corner" or anything recycled from the beginning of the 90's, then yes, they'd be boring. They're not coasting like so many people believe. They're simply adjusting the content of their show to better suit the audience, and so far, it seems to be working.
 
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