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Should Fan go Star(or Planet)?

> I miss a Hot AC, so if the Fan does decide to flip, I hope
> they return either Star or the Planet to the airwaves.
>
> As far as the whole 560 losing ESPN Radio deal, if the Fan
> does flip, would 560 pick ESPN Radio back up?
>


I think the first identity that 106.7 had was the Planet wasn't it? I remember what seemed like a lifetime of back to back "Major Tom". If the fan does flip then "Sports Night" will probably return to 99.7 and they will take ESPN radio for night time and weekend programming. My time machine told me.
 
> I think the first identity that 106.7 had was the Planet
> wasn't it? I remember what seemed like a lifetime of back to
> back "Major Tom". If the fan does flip then "Sports Night"
> will probably return to 99.7 and they will take ESPN radio
> for night time and weekend programming. My time machine told me.

The first identity 106.7 had was a nightime signal for WAMB.

99.7's ratings improved once they dumped SportsNight for a time-delayed Liddy. They won't go back. Time to take your time machine in for a tune-up.
 
Re: 106.7

> > But both of those signals are DISTANT rimshots-- 106.7's
> > signal, while small, is
> > right in the middle of the city of Nashville and covers
> the
> > geographical areas most likely to use Southern Gospel
> (WBOZ
> > is a class A from way SE of Nashville, WVRY is 50kw but
> > about 50 miles west of Nashville).
> > >
> > > Southern Gospel IS on FM at 104.9 and 105.1. The gospel
> > > format that is such a hit in Memphis and Birmingham is
> > > African-American Gospel.
> > >
> >
>
> Actually, 106.7 being right in the middle of the city would
> make it a natural for black gospel, which isn't on FM at all
> in Nashville unless some of the CCM stations have specialty
> shows. I can't see them going there because even in
> Jackson, Birmingham, Memphis, et al. where it does great in
> the ratings, it apparently hasn't billed well and I don't
> think Cumulus has it on FM anywhere (CC owns most of the
> black gospel FMs out there).
>
> Cumulus does have a decent record w/ urban, though, and
> Nashville could probably support a second one alongside Beat
> (which is a rimshot, albeit one with a fine signal). Power
> 106.7, anyone?
>

That is what they were before going to the fan

Nock
 
Re: 106.7

> But both of those signals are DISTANT rimshots-- 106.7's
> signal, while small, is
> right in the middle of the city of Nashville and covers the
> geographical areas most likely to use Southern Gospel (WBOZ
> is a class A from way SE of Nashville, WVRY is 50kw but
> about 50 miles west of Nashville).
> >
> > Southern Gospel IS on FM at 104.9 and 105.1. The gospel
> > format that is such a hit in Memphis and Birmingham is
> > African-American Gospel.
> >
>

Would it be possible to switch the fan's frequency to 106.5 or 106.9? Could they increase their power on either signal?
 
Re: 106.7

> > > But both of those signals are DISTANT rimshots-- 106.7's
>
> > > signal, while small, is
> > > right in the middle of the city of Nashville and covers
> > the
> > > geographical areas most likely to use Southern Gospel
> > (WBOZ
> > > is a class A from way SE of Nashville, WVRY is 50kw but
> > > about 50 miles west of Nashville).
> > > >
> > > > Southern Gospel IS on FM at 104.9 and 105.1. The
> gospel
> > > > format that is such a hit in Memphis and Birmingham is
>
> > > > African-American Gospel.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > Actually, 106.7 being right in the middle of the city
> would
> > make it a natural for black gospel, which isn't on FM at
> all
> > in Nashville unless some of the CCM stations have
> specialty
> > shows. I can't see them going there because even in
> > Jackson, Birmingham, Memphis, et al. where it does great
> in
> > the ratings, it apparently hasn't billed well and I don't
> > think Cumulus has it on FM anywhere (CC owns most of the
> > black gospel FMs out there).
> >
> > Cumulus does have a decent record w/ urban, though, and
> > Nashville could probably support a second one alongside
> Beat
> > (which is a rimshot, albeit one with a fine signal).
> Power
> > 106.7, anyone?
> >
>
> That is what they were before going to the fan
>
> Nock
>

How'd they do? I'm guessing not very well, but surely it couldn't have been worse . . .
 
Re: 106.7

> Would it be possible to switch the fan's frequency to 106.5
> or 106.9? Could they increase their power on either signal?

No. Too close to WNRQ (105.9) and WRVW (107.5). They'd have to *reduce* power on either frequency -- indeed, you couldn't even launch a 100-watt LPFM on either frequency.
 
Re: 106.7

> Just off the top of my head, 106.9 has WKXD
> (Monterey/Cookeville)
> and 106.5 has WSKZ Chattanooga. Won't work on either.

Haven't done the numbers but I suspect a Class A station (which WNFN is) - and likely even a C3 - would fit on 106.9 without problems from WSKZ, WKXD, or WWYN. (106.9 in West Tennessee) 106.5 might have trouble due to WKDZ in Cadiz, KY.

The problems are WNRQ and WRVW. You have to be at least 0.8MHz from stations with overlapping coverage. That requirement can only be met with regard to these two stations on 106.7. You couldn't even fit a LPFM on 106.5/106.9, let alone something more powerful than WNFN's current Class A status.

> don't
> forget the signal problems with the original Mt. Juliet COL
> and
> Donelson transmitter interference with the control tower at
> Nashville
> International. Didn't Cumulus apply for all the changes in
> COL
> for all of the Nashville FM stations, except WSM-FM?

I don't know of any C-O-L changes for any Cumulus stations, except 106.7. I'm pretty sure I remember properly that this change happened before Cumulus bought the station.
 
Re: 106.7

> What about just raising the power on 106.7? It's far enough
> away from 105.9 and 107.5

Yep, with regard to 105.9 and 107.5 they could get away with 100,000 watts. Now, the problem *is* other stations. Off the top of my head, I'd say WDXE Lawrenceburg would be the big problem. A Class C3 (the next step up from WNFN's current Class A) must be at least 74 miles from another Class A (like WDXE) on the same frequency.

I would bet if Cumulus could get a power increase on WNFN they'd have already filed.
 
Re: 106.7

> > What about just raising the power on 106.7? It's far
> enough
> > away from 105.9 and 107.5
>
> Yep, with regard to 105.9 and 107.5 they could get away with
> 100,000 watts. Now, the problem *is* other stations. Off
> the top of my head, I'd say WDXE Lawrenceburg would be the
> big problem. A Class C3 (the next step up from WNFN's
> current Class A) must be at least 74 miles from another
> Class A (like WDXE) on the same frequency.
>
> I would bet if Cumulus could get a power increase on WNFN
> they'd have already filed.
>
there's also 106.7 Horse Cave, KY...Bowling Green market <P ID="signature">______________
you're not a lawyer, are you?</P>
 
Re: 106.7 has already filed!

> I would bet if Cumulus could get a power increase on WNFN
> they'd have already filed.

Cume Nashville has already filed a series of COL changes for most of its stations in the area in an effort to get more power for 106.7.
 
I know how 106.7 can go up 5 spots

Since WAMB has been sold, they can flip to Big Band/Easy Listening. It's a guarantee of 3 whole tenths of a point! It'll be just like 97.1 going to Oldies, but without the overblown media attention !!!!!!!!!

Laugh, but just maybe you'll flip over to 106.7 one day and hear Perry Como.


You realize I'm joking, right?

Jason



> I know for a while now you guys have been blasting 106.7 The
> Fan saying they should blow up the sports and try something
> else. You may be on to something here! The only shows that
> mean anything are Dan Patrick and The Brunch (even though
> they kill 2 hours of Cowherd which sucks), and Sports Night
> is worse than the Afternoon Press Box on 560 these days in
> my opinion.
>
> I miss a Hot AC, so if the Fan does decide to flip, I hope
> they return either Star or the Planet to the airwaves.
>
> As far as the whole 560 losing ESPN Radio deal, if the Fan
> does flip, would 560 pick ESPN Radio back up?
>
 
Re: I know how 106.7 can go up 5 spots

> Since WAMB has been sold, they can flip to Big Band/Easy
> Listening. It's a guarantee of 3 whole tenths of a point!
> It'll be just like 97.1 going to Oldies, but without the
> overblown media attention !!!!!!!!!
>
> Laugh, but just maybe you'll flip over to 106.7 one day and
> hear Perry Como.
>
> You realize I'm joking, right?

I'd take you very seriously, there's a hole that will exist now. Imagine programming 106.7 like the new Star 97.5 in Phoenix with its blend of pop, jazz, swing, blues, and standards. There you can hear current tracks from Carly Simon, Rod Stewart, Diana Krall, Harry Connick Jr., and Norah Jones with favorites from Tony Bennett, Frank Sinatra, Ella Fitzgerald, Ray Charles, Van Morrison, Aaron Neville, and Elton John. Sort of a new version of "standards" in the same way Jack is a new version of "oldies." Target is 35+.

Yeah, I'd take you very seriously. That's the kind of niche format a niche frequency needs.
 
Re: I know how 106.7 can go up 5 spots

> I'd take you very seriously, there's a hole that will exist
> now. Imagine programming 106.7 like the new Star 97.5 in
> Phoenix with its blend of pop, jazz, swing, blues, and
> standards. There you can hear current tracks from Carly
> Simon, Rod Stewart, Diana Krall, Harry Connick Jr., and
> Norah Jones with favorites from Tony Bennett, Frank Sinatra,
> Ella Fitzgerald, Ray Charles, Van Morrison, Aaron Neville,
> and Elton John. Sort of a new version of "standards" in the
> same way Jack is a new version of "oldies." Target is 35+.

What you described is the format of Red 104.1 in St. Louis, which is currently lying on the bottom of the ratings toilet!

I'd much rather hear a conventional standards format. Perry Como, Frank Sinatra, and Johnny Mathis mixed with Kenny Rogers, John Denver, and the Carpenters, exactly what syndicators like Westwood One are doing.
 
106.7

Target 35+? More like 55/65+. Few under 60 would care nor listen.

> Sort of a new version of "standards" in the
> same way Jack is a new version of "oldies." Target is 35+.
 
Re: 106.7 has already filed!

> Cume Nashville has already filed a series of COL changes for
> most of its stations in the area in an effort to get more
> power for 106.7.

Got links? I'm having trouble finding anything on the FCC site. I find seven applications since 1979 involving Cumulus FM stations in Middle Tennessee - renewals for all four stations, a tower height increase (and an amendment to same) at WWTN, and replacement of the WRQQ antenna. None of that (and indeed, nothing they could do technically with any of their stations) would allow a power increase at WNFN.

(then again, some things are obviously missing, as certainly the stations should have been renewed more than once since 1979)

I don't see any applications for changes at any of the three stations (Lawrenceburg, Horse Cave KY, Reidland KY) on 106.7 likely to block a WNFN upgrade. None of the three are obviously owned by Cumulus. (I can't guarantee the WDXE or WHHT licensees aren't Cumulus subsidiaries but I doubt it. The Reidland KY station is definitely NOT a Cumulus outlet.)

COL changes wouldn't be enough to allow an upgrade for WNFN. There would have to be serious technical changes, many of them involving stations Cumulus doesn't own. (i.e. they'd have to pay off the licensees)
 
Re: 106.7 has already filed!

> Got links? I'm having trouble finding anything on the FCC
> site.

Well, in hindsight, I was being way to generous in using the term "power". What they've technically got in mind is improving signal to C3. If I remember correctly, the COL jockeying also did include a height upgrade for WTN. Saw the info on recnet back in April or May and I seem to recall a discussion on this board about then as well. Also recall seeing detail summaries from the apps.
 
Re: 106.7 has already filed!

> Well, in hindsight, I was being way to generous in using the
> term "power". What they've technically got in mind is
> improving signal to C3.

C3 would certainly involve either a power or tower height increase or both. Either way it would be necessary to move some other stations (at least WDXE) to get C3 status.

> If I remember correctly, the COL
> jockeying also did include a height upgrade for WTN. Saw the
> info on recnet back in April or May and I seem to recall a
> discussion on this board about then as well. Also recall
> seeing detail summaries from the apps.

The only technical change I can find for WNFN on recnet.com is the move from their original site near the airport to where they are now on the ch. 4 tower in West Nashville. That move *did* include a COL change from Mt. Juliet to Belle Meade, maybe that's the COL change you're thinking of?

(I was surprised to learn the station held the calls WAOF at one point. Don't think they ever used those calls in regular operation.)

Among the other Cumulus stations in the market I find only the tower height increase for WWTN (which seems to include a new tower site within about a mile northeast of the existing site) and some kind of change at WRQQ that doesn't result in any changes in power or tower height. (I suppose that would be the antenna replacement) Nor is anything listed for WDXE. (not even the archive record for their move from 95.9...)
 
Re: 106.7 has already filed!

> The only technical change I can find for WNFN on recnet.com
> is the move from their original site near the airport to
> where they are now on the ch. 4 tower in West Nashville.
> That move *did* include a COL change from Mt. Juliet to
> Belle Meade, maybe that's the COL change you're thinking of?

Maybe they withdrew or altered the plan. Anyway, I just now searched this board and found this was previously reported in the thread "Cumulus COL Changes?" from back in May.
 
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