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Should I Get A New Copy Of This CD Or Not

To all the judgemental, holier-than-thou hypocrites who want to ban any particular Christian song because the artist who recorded it didn't meet your personal standards, make sure you never read the 23rd Psalm. Or most of the Psalms for that matter. The author of the 23rd Psalm was an adulterer and murderer. And make sure you never read any of Paul's Epistles. He was an accessory to murder, holding the cloaks of those who stoned Stephen.

Bottom line, if you can't understand and accept the Christian concepts of grace and forgiveness, then you have no business running a "Christian" radio station, not even a low powered one.
 
Who are you addressing that question to? What does it have to do with the subject of this thread?

My apology for not using the "Reply With Quote" feature. Clearly, as an avid listener, you're far too important to waste time lowering your exceedingly high standards for compelling conversation to the level of someone like the infamous "Mario 500." I deeply regret any personal action forcing you to do so. I should have made my question more clear.

Let's review. The original comment in this thread, written by Dan Presley, was debating his possible purchase of a CD that contained an instrumental cover of George Harrison's "My Sweet Lord." Mr. Presley clearly does not consider the song to be appropriate for inclusion as Christian music.

Seven minutes later, you quipped "if you're so narrow minded that you have to ask, then the answer is 'no, you shouldn't'."

Now to the unwashed masses, myself included, it seemed understandable that Mr. Presley has trouble with George Harrison and the faith he expressed in the lyrics of "My Sweet Lord." Yet, you chose to apply the term "narrow minded" to Mr. Presley's opinion.

In response, Mr. Presley shared the personal goal that the music he presents on his LPFM be Biblically based. You then responded by writing "That's what I mean about being "narrow minded".

After some tangental discussion, you thankfully returned us to topic by writing "to all the judgemental, holier-than-thou hypocrites who want to ban any particular Christian song because the artist who recorded it didn't meet your personal standards, make sure you never read the 23rd Psalm."

In the case of Mr. Presley's original post, clearly George Harrison is the artist that didn't meet -- as you wrote -- Mr. Presley's "personal standard." Mr. Harrison's song that forced the creation of this thread is "My Sweet Lord." Most consider "My Sweet Lord" to not be a "Christian song." To me, that comment implied that you might not carry the same standard as to what makes a song "Christian."

As an aside, you might be surprised to discover that you and I are probably more in agreement -- that is, if the song is something that falls under the umbrella of contemporary Christian music. Yet, being far less wise and well written as you, I found myself compelled to ask if you consider "My Sweet Lord" to be a Christian song?

I again express my sincere regret for any trouble caused by my question. Clearly, your many comments on this site show just how valuable your time must be. Perhaps it's wrong to even approach you with such a meager question. Yet, eagerly, I await your response. Thank you.
 
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I eagerly await your response.

I was responding to the entire thread. I was responding to the idea that an entire CD should be rejected just because George Harrison's song was on it. I was responding to the idea that somehow a song that included references to a Hindu deity somehow tainted all of the other songs on the CD. The fact that Harrison's song isn't, strictly speaking, "Christian" in the narrowest sense shouldn't make any difference with regards to the other songs on the CD. Anyone who would throw away a CD that contained such Christian songs Swing Low, Sweet Chariot, Go Tell it on the Mountain, Onward Christian Soldiers, and many, many others just because it also contains My Sweet Lord is too narrow minded, unforgiving and frankly, clueless about the Gospel, to make a success at running a Christian radio station, even a low powered one. Anyone who would throw away 21 unquestionably Christian songs just because one wasn't in total compliance with his personal theology has bigger issues to resolve than funding a low powered radio station.

And, I confess that my response could have been equally as meaningful in several other threads in this forum.
 
I was responding to the entire thread. I was responding to the idea that an entire CD should be rejected just because George Harrison's song was on it. I was responding to the idea that somehow a song that included references to a Hindu deity somehow tainted all of the other songs on the CD. The fact that Harrison's song isn't, strictly speaking, "Christian" in the narrowest sense shouldn't make any difference with regards to the other songs on the CD. Anyone who would throw away a CD that contained such Christian songs Swing Low, Sweet Chariot, Go Tell it on the Mountain, Onward Christian Soldiers, and many, many others just because it also contains My Sweet Lord is too narrow minded, unforgiving and frankly, clueless about the Gospel, to make a success at running a Christian radio station, even a low powered one. Anyone who would throw away 21 unquestionably Christian songs just because one wasn't in total compliance with his personal theology has bigger issues to resolve than funding a low powered radio station.

And, I confess that my response could have been equally as meaningful in several other threads in this forum.

Sadly, as time has passed and as we've learned more about Dan Presley through his writing along with his posted media appearances, I suspect that Avid is *not* telling us something that we didn't already know. Candidly, I've recently had to admit that this LPFM project is far over his head. Any of us who have previously attempted to support Dan and his efforts, owe him a large apology. I'm sorry, Dan -- but I feel that I need to be honest.
 
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Thanks for the apology and being honest. I appreciate it. Unless God shuts this dream down, I'm going to pursue it. Hope to be on the air, before May 2015.

Dan <><
 
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From what I've seen on Amazon this album looks like it was thrown together by some studio musicians, and it wasn't on a major label, so who knows other than God about the spiritual state of the people involved. Some, all, or none of them may have been Christians. It may have even been a compilation album that someone threw together from tracks from other albums. In any case whoever decided to include My Sweet Lord (or He's So Fine :rolleyes:) probably didn't know the history of the song and shouldn't have included it. Like I said earlier if it was a version like Leon Patillo's that had been reworked and done by a committed Christian artist I might include it. But in the case of this album (if it was on a traditional station) I might use the other songs and left out My Sweet Lord.

I honestly wouldn't use the album at all though. If Dan goes with a mostly CCM format (which I still hope he'll be able to do) this album really doesn't fit, so I wouldn't consider it in the first place. This album looks more like something that would be played on BBN. It might be usable for filler between programs during the more traditional music times, but that's it.
 
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I honestly wouldn't use the album at all though. If Dan goes with a mostly CCM format (which I still hope he'll be able to do) this album really doesn't fit, so I wouldn't consider it in the first place. This album looks more like something that would be played on BBN. It might be usable for filler between programs during the more traditional music times, but that's it.

I wouldn't use most of the cuts on that album on a CCM radio station, not even a low powered one. I also wouldn't use most of them in church for worship, but that's beside the point. Whether or not one has been truly called to do something is an issue of overall thought process, not nitpicking over micromanagement decisions.

In my faith tradition, we are very, very serious about the subject of whether or not someone is called to a particular church mission. People sometimes get ideas in their heads and think those ideas were planted by God, and were therefore a call to some sort of ministry mission. So, there is a process of discernment in place to help determine whether an idea someone had is a call from God or from a vivid imagination. I submit that discerning whether or not a perceived call is truly a bona-fide call includes comparing one's attitudes with the teachings of Scripture. Stubbornness is not the same as steadfastness.
 
Thanks for the apology and being honest. I appreciate it. Unless God shuts this dream down, I'm going to pursue it. Hope to be on the air, before May 2015.

I really appreciate the idea of discernment, as Avid expressed. Christian radio would be far more impactful if that tradition were a part of a job prospect's vetting process. Personally, I've learned that I tend to fall more on the stubborn side, as Avid might say. I think that's why I see so many red flags in the case of Dan Presley. Debate over some CD is a waste of time. A distraction. A serious sign of a lack of true priorities.

As for the CD, it's been packaged and repackaged under a variety of titles. It's poorly produced, poorly arranged -- the product of a synthesizer and small group of overdubbed vocalists. You hear the same voices throughout -- while performing under a variety of vocal group names. It's deceptive and seemingly designed to serve as the target for one last impulse buy as you hit the checkout stand. Nothing in the least is radio worthy.

I mention that to lead into a far more serious point. I personally believe that if Christian radio were Dan's true call and not simply "a vivid imagination," a concern over a CD would never have entered the picture. Perhaps some will read this as a poor interpretation on my part of the Christian faith, but I strongly feel that if God were part of Dan's LPFM dream, Dan would be far more clearly equipped to handle the tasks at hand. He doesn't seem to be.

Others have expressed a concern over a serious of talent or understanding regarding the technical aspect of radio. There is no obvious effective skill set at promotion, fund raising, budgeting or management. Fund raising is not on pace to reach the needed money prior to the expiration of the construction permit. The subject of this thread suggests little talent at the task of programming. The CD doesn't fit. There is little ability to prioritize what truly needs done to go on the air. You cannot wait on others to provide, be it money or equipment. You need to find the way to provide for yourself.

Here's what I do see. Someone was given an opportunity to record a fund raising message for airing on a local Christian radio station. People tend to be kind in response and politely told Dan that he did a good job with the recorded message. In Dan's world, that was all it took to jump to a conclusion that his talents were best suited to bring a contemporary Christian music radio station to Selma, Alabama. Was the question ever asked and answered regarding whether enough need or interest exists for such a radio station in Selma?

An enthusiasm for something doesn't equal a call from God. Here and elsewhere, Dan wrote about his perceived dream for CCM radio. Again, people tend to be kind in response. Sure. Great idea. Go for it. Good luck with that. Let us know if we can help. He wrote about it long enough and passionately enough that some of us, myself included, began to think maybe this truly is a "God thing." If so, then we need to do what we can to push him to pursue his dream and responded favorably. I now see that as a mistake.

Sure, there were red flags. But seeing them through the possible filter of Alabama's culture, most were easily dismissed. Dan did some things right. He contracted with Sterling Communications to obtain his construction permit. Most of the time, he did things wrong -- or not at all. It's been nine months since the CP grant. There's no equipment in place. Just a shed, maybe a CD rack and a "stash of insulation." There's little money but not enough to finish the project. Mostly there is talk. Always, talk.

Dan writes "unless God shuts this dream down..." After years of Dan's talk, I for one have concluded that God may have never begun this dream. That is a tragedy. This may simply be a huge distraction that keeps Dan, his family and his patrons from acting on God's true call for their lives. What isn't happening while Dan talks and dreams? What should happen to further God's plan in Selma that isn't because time and money and passion and emotional energy is being wasted on someone's vivid imagination?

I can only speak for myself. These are things that I've had to learn in my own faith life. But I find myself compelled to offer my concern because I see a time at hand where the most difficult of questions needs to be prayerfully and truthfully considered. Avid Listener wisely calls it discernment. Is Dan's LPFM of God or of a vivid imagination? To Dan Presley I ask, can you tell us why you think this LPFM is of God, not of yourself? Are you willing to match that with scripture?

Before you take another penny of someone's money or waste another ounce of your or a family member's emotional energy, are you willing to face the possible and serious reality that WPJB-LP may have never been a calling of God, but only of man -- you. And if it is only of you, what needs to be done next?
 
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Let's go back to the beginning of this. I was attending a Church service. It was in July 2013. As I was getting high off the Sunday night Sermon, God spoke to me. He told me, Dan I want Selma to have this radio station. I was excited to hear that. After the service was over, everyone came to me and asked why was you talking. I told them what happened and they got excited. After that Service, I started the quest to pursue a CP. Went through the proper channels to get it. Got the CP, in early 2014. After I got the CP, God used some people to help me get a studio building. When that building came, I knew that God wanted Selma to have Jesus Radio. Although things are a bit slow now, I still believe that if God wants this, He'll see it through. Make no mistakes about it.

As of this note, I have some people helping me secure some broadcasting equipment. Mr. Alan McCall and Chris Hall are two examples. Hope they can come through for me.

In closing, as I continue to Pray, God keeps telling me I want Selma to have Jesus Radio. There have been moments, where I wanted to give up and walk away. God won't let me do it. He still wants it to happen.

Dan <><

P.S. WRNF Selma was a slow starter too. Back in 2005, my friend Mr. Rob Moore just got a CP for this broadcast. During the CP phase, he was trying to raise money to build the station. He was Praying hard for WRNF to happen for Selma. The money was slow to come. Not knowing if he was going get the funds needed to build WRNF, he started to cry in August of 2007. It was getting close to crunch time for him. He Prayed and cried to God, while doing some work at WMBV in Dixon's Mills. As he started, God had a plan in place. God revealed to him that Moody was going help fund WRNF and get it on. A few days later, the money poured in and he started building WRNF. Believe it or not, that station made it to air, with a few days to spare on the CP. I see something like that happening to me. I know things are slow now but if God wants this, He'll speed things up, when it's His appointed time and not a moment sooner.

B.T.W. I feel like crying, as I post this. I want God to see this dream through. It's something my hometown has a real need for. Hope He'll bless me with everything else I need, for the building phase.
 
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Let's end the conversation on this note:

1. He spoke to me, in July of 2013 and said Dan I want you and Selma to have this radio station.
2. Because of the donations, I've been getting. True they've been small but I'll take whatever I can get.
3. When I Pray, He keeps telling me I want Selma to have Jesus Radio.
4. He allowed me to secure a studio building and a place to locate it on.
5. He's using Mr. Alan McCall and countless others to help me secure broadcasting equipment. Hope those contacts will come through soon. (As of this post, Mr. McCall is now working on getting me an antenna, that's already tuned to 93.3 FM.)
6. He's allowed me to get some free musical donations, for the library, with more coming from Mr. Alan McCall.
7. Because He's been teaching me how to be patient and trust in Him. Obeying Proverbs 3:5-6 has been the hardest thing for me to do, since I started to pursue this radio station.

Dan <><
 
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Again, I'm not asking for another retelling of your history -- or what someone may have given you. I've been here through it all. I've been one of those posters you reference. I've celebrated with you, prayed with you, encouraged you, and at times tried to ask the difficult questions that should force you to honestly think through your place in this process. Questions that I had hoped would help you to see beyond the emotion of a moment and into the serious reality of what you claim as your dream. Hard questions that would result in long, hard, prayerful consideration of the situation, not just result in another emotional knee jerk response.

Occasionally, you've replied in very candid, very pragmatic and very appreciated ways. Often times, you've responded as you just did. "Let's end the conversation..." To me, that appears as if you cannot answer the question -- and indirectly dismisses the question as unimportant. Remember that the answer to that question affects more than just you. It affects those who've chosen to contribute to your effort, financially or otherwise. It affects the spiritual lives of your family and your stakeholders. It affects Selma as a whole because if, as some question, this isn't of God but of you, it detracts from what both your true efforts and your stakeholders efforts in ministry should be. The ramifications of that can be serious.

God may well say that he wants CCM in Selma. Many of us have had similar dreams in our own personal communities. It's easy to get caught up in the emotion of someone's dream and to encourage, even when encouragement might be wrong. I asked several years ago, are you to be the one who operates that radio station in Selma? Or are you simply to be the one who leads a prayer effort that brings CCM to Selma via a radio station operated by someone else? It's a difference between moving in God's will and moving in your own. It's determining whether this is God's dream or yours. And you've never really answered that question.

Dan, it's certainly the right thing to say that God opened that FCC filing window. But frankly, Selma had something like 10 available frequencies. It was a near certainty that if you filed, you would be granted a construction permit. And this all leads back to my seemingly age old question, how do you know that it is God doing the leading? For that matter, how do you know that God gave that CP to you? Could it be that he simply allowed it. There is a difference in the two. That can't be quickly or easily answered. It's an issue of discernment -- as Avid would say -- that takes time, spiritual wisdom and maturity, and that is something that some see little evidence of in this situation.

There's one thing that I've never told you before. I have studio equipment and a CCM library that could help get you on the air. I have finances that could help solve your financial needs. I also have questions that I feel led by God to ask. I'm sorry but those questions remain unanswered. For me, I'm through. I have no desire to go over this again. I am confident that God is leading me to offer help elsewhere.

With that, and in respect to what you've asked, the conversation is now ended. Selah.
 
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In the world you have APA's and LMAs too...the corporate formations, by-laws, the usual stuff - you know, business licenses and other things to think through.
 
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B.T.W. I feel like crying, as I post this. I want God to see this dream through. It's something my hometown has a real need for. Hope He'll bless me with everything else I need, for the building phase.

This sounds like it's your dream. That's the point of prayerful discernment. And that's a process that usually works better through prayerful guidance of called and ordained clergy. How many called and ordained clergy have you prayerfully discussed this project with?
 
I've Prayerfully discussed this project with many Pastors, businesses and People here. Everyone I've talked with, so far, is now Praying for me. Even have two former Pastors, from my Church, doing it.

Dan <><
 
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Maybe it is Dan's dream. Doesn't mean God can't use it, or isn't a part of it.

I haven't been following this thread but wish for the best for you, Dan. If you indeed feel called by God to open up an LPFM radio station, then perhaps that is what you should be pursuing.
 
Last night I surrendered this dream to God. Going to let Him have complete control over it. Never intended for it to be about me only. To be sure, I didn't fall into that trap, I chose to do it. Now that I've done it, a great weight has been lifted. It was hard but I'm glad I did it.

Dan <><

P.S. I thank everyone for their Prayers, support, advice and help so far. This poster appreciates it.
 
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Since my name was brought up..

I haven't been to this site in ages but it was brought to my attention my name was mentioned. So my two cents.

Like Dan, I have a CP for an LPFM radio station. Mine is WDXD-LP 101.9 in Tallahassee, Fla. WDXD is Christian owned
with a classic country format. The Christian radio market is oversaturated here.

Since February, we have bought a building, tower, most of the gear, a double bay antenna, and have paid cash, so far.
I have scrimped, saved, sacrificed and done everything possible to make WDXD work. So we have about $8000 plunked
into it so far.

Still ahead for us: obtaining a transmitter, EAS, and getting the tower built.

Radio engineers, family, and friends have been good to us. I am now making WDXD a 501c3 organization.

WDXD will offer classic CCM on Sundays, southern gospel Sunday nights, and classic country at other times.

I do have some music I will donate, but WPJB needs to be on track to be built. The 93.3 antenna is not ours but I believe the owner will donate it to Dan.

Incidentally, I am legally blind, on retirement, and struggling, but I am committed to my station. Whatever it takes.

Dan, you can do this, but get some local radio friends you trust to help you. It's complicated.

Alan McCall
Delta Star Radio Of Fla. Inc.
WDXD-LP 101.9
2625 Doll Place
Talahassee, FL 32311
(850)877-4641
[email protected]
www.bigdcountry.com
 
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