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Should Myron return to the booth for Super Bowl XL?

Who are you?

Part of the fan base that boos Tommy Maddox, after wearing "Kordell Who?" T-shirts three years ago, after buying a "No. 10" jersey in 1997?

The inventor of the Terrible Towel is a BAD LUCK CHARM?????

Did you really try to make that point?
 
I am not aware of Myron's skills being diminished to the point where he can no longer make a few pertinent comments during a football game. It's not like he's a 90 year old has been DJ trying to play oldies for three hours on Saturday afternoons. He's been retired for what, a year? He still did those car commercials within the past few months. He's not 100%, but his skills aren't so diminished that he couldn't handle what has been suggested.

> Honoring someone is one thing, if the Steelers want to do
> tributes to past teams or commentators, I have no problem
> with that. Diminished skill is another. You wouldn't put
> someone on the field with lesser skills simply because it
> made everyone feel good, nor should you put someone in booth
> with diminished skills simply to make everyone feel good.
>
> It's amazing how people on this board talk about wanting new
> things in radio, but at the first chance they get, they are
> more than happy to join Peabody and Sherman in the Wayback
> Machine.
>
 
Re: Who are you?

Yeah, really!

> The inventor of the Terrible Towel is a BAD LUCK CHARM?????
>
> Did you really try to make that point?
>
 
Re: Who are you?

I need not deal in luck or superstition to make my point. Plain and simple, anyone who listened to the game for which Myron was part of earlier this year and didn't notice a drop off in the quality of work he was doing would probably have the same hearing that couldn't tell the difference between an AM and FM signal.

The original post suggested that Myron do commentary for the game, and not sidebar work. If Myron want's to redo his Cabana or what not, fine by all means go ahead. If they want to talk to Myron during pregame, again, fine. But the notion that he should be thrown into the booth at this juncture of the season just because he called the previous Super Bowls is ludicrous. This is the most important broadcast of the year for the Steelers, to turn it into some sort of experiment to see if Myron still has it, or will it turn into something amounting to Dick Clark's appearance New Year's Eve this past Dec 31st is not what you to with a broadcast of this magnitude. It is a disservice to your listeners, your sponsors and the guys in the booth who now have not only have to worry about their own jobs, but whether or not they will have, in essence, a third wheel in the booth.

Myron may very well have cut car commercials a few months ago, but that isn't nearly the same as a live broadcast where you can't edit out any mistakes that are made.
 
Well then you weren't paying attention. The fact is his work in the '04 season was positively cringe-inducing at times. That's why his best friend told him it was time to step down. Let it go already. Myron had a great career. It's a new day.


> I am not aware of Myron's skills being diminished to the
> point where he can no longer make a few pertinent comments
> during a football game. It's not like he's a 90 year old has
> been DJ trying to play oldies for three hours on Saturday
> afternoons. He's been retired for what, a year? He still did
> those car commercials within the past few months. He's not
> 100%, but his skills aren't so diminished that he couldn't
> handle what has been suggested.
>
 
Re: Who are you?

I don't believe in jinxes and all that garbage....but if the Towel is really a good luck charm, why haven't the Steelers won a Super Bowl since 1980? The Towels have been out just about every year since then.




>
> The inventor of the Terrible Towel is a BAD LUCK CHARM?????
>
> Did you really try to make that point?
>
 
Re: Who are you?

> Part of the fan base that boos Tommy Maddox, after wearing
> "Kordell Who?" T-shirts three years ago, after buying a "No.
> 10" jersey in 1997?
>
> The inventor of the Terrible Towel is a BAD LUCK CHARM?????
>
> Did you really try to make that point?
>

Stop taking things so literally!

Look, no disrespect to Myron. Goodness, I know the guy. I have ribbed him that he needs to stay out of the broadcast booth. HE'S said to me that being away from the booth, the Steelers have been winning and have a mojo. I shot back that perhaps he was a bad luck charm, and he laughed. So get over it Mr.Pratte!

As someone pointed out earlier on this thread, there is indeed a rhythm to the broadcasts this year. Is that a coincidence? I don't think so. The team of Billy, Tunch, and Wolf are much more unified, co-hesive, and can outdo the national broadcasters. Tunch isn't babysitting Myron anymore.

Myron faced the facts that he won't be doing anymore games, NOR does he want to come back.
 
Re: Myron at the Super Bowl, don't bet on it

Even if he isn't in the booth, I could see Myron Cope having a role in the local radio broadcast of Super Bowl XL, perhaps narrating a "flashback" segment on the pregame show. It would include radio soundbites of great moments in Steelers history, including their previous Super Bowl victories, as well as Myron's memories of the team over the years.
 
Re: I remember that well

Not at all. There was an immediate kneejerk reaction to boycott Iron City in the wake of the Prince firing. It was quickly quelled when the brewery workers went public and said all that would do is hurt us and cost Pittsburgh jobs. In fact, Iron City launched IC Light soon after that and it was a huge success for a while.

Ultimately Iron City's problems are incredibly poor management and limited resources to compete against monster-sized national brewers like A-B, Coors and Miller.





> SIDE NOTE- I have heard that when Prince was fired, bars
> quit selling Iron City in protest, which was a big sponsor
> for the Pirates.
>
> Looking back, could that be regarded as the actual start of
> the demise of Iron City?
>
 
Re: Myron at the Super Bowl, don't bet on it

You know, it might be an ordeal for Myron just to get to Detroit and deal with the insane crush of people who are around an event like this. He was in the hospital just a couple of weeks ago. If you're talking about him doing anything at all on the broadcast, you're talking about WORK. Who says he wants to work?

There IS a role for him. If the Steelers win the Super Bowl and there's a big celebration rally at Heinz Field, let him come on stage and say a few words and wave the Towel. He can bask in the love of his crowd, it's low stress and he's no further than a half hour from home.








> Even if he isn't in the booth, I could see Myron Cope having
> a role in the local radio broadcast of Super Bowl XL,
> perhaps narrating a "flashback" segment on the pregame show.
> It would include radio soundbites of great moments in
> Steelers history, including their previous Super Bowl
> victories, as well as Myron's memories of the team over the
> years.
>
 
Re: I remember that well

> May 3, 1985. Bucs 16, Dodgers 2.
>

I was at that game. The Bucs scored 14 of those runs in the first of what was supposed to be 3 innnings, but since it went 45 minutes, that was all he did that night.

But just for the sake of counterpoint, I offer two words: Dick Clark.<P ID="signature">______________
"With God as my witness, I could have sworn turkeys could fly."</P>
 
Re: Myron at the Super Bowl, don't bet on it

> You know, it might be an ordeal for Myron just to get to
> Detroit and deal with the insane crush of people who are
> around an event like this. He was in the hospital just a
> couple of weeks ago. If you're talking about him doing
> anything at all on the broadcast, you're talking about WORK.
> Who says he wants to work?
>
> There IS a role for him. If the Steelers win the Super Bowl
> and there's a big celebration rally at Heinz Field, let him
> come on stage and say a few words and wave the Towel. He can
> bask in the love of his crowd, it's low stress and he's no
> further than a half hour from home.
>



That is EXACTLY what Myron's role should be. Not in Detroit. Not working the Superbowl game. But, up on stage for a few moments at the winning Steelers Pep Rally.

Okay, I think that should end this thread.

Mr. Music
 
Re: I remember that well

Good to hear. And of course Prince then hawked Iron City for many years afterwards.

Gotta say I agree with you- but Prince's firing was the first "Anti-Iron" sentiment I have ever heard of.




> Not at all. There was an immediate kneejerk reaction to
> boycott Iron City in the wake of the Prince firing. It was
> quickly quelled when the brewery workers went public and
> said all that would do is hurt us and cost Pittsburgh jobs.
> In fact, Iron City launched IC Light soon after that and it
> was a huge success for a while.
>
> Ultimately Iron City's problems are incredibly poor
> management and limited resources to compete against
> monster-sized national brewers like A-B, Coors and Miller.
>
>
>
>
>
> > SIDE NOTE- I have heard that when Prince was fired, bars
> > quit selling Iron City in protest, which was a big sponsor
>
> > for the Pirates.
> >
> > Looking back, could that be regarded as the actual start
> of
> > the demise of Iron City?
> >
>
 
See where you are coming from-

If that's the case, good.

I just am very upset with the constant "If it's Pittsburgh it's crap" mentality some people have- and I'm sure you can appriciate and probably back someone who wishes to fight that mentality.

When you start saying "Myron Cope is a bad luck charm" it has the feel of someone going down that road.

It's obviously Myron's call and if his health or fire or whatever doesn't want him to do it- IF that is the case- then that's the end of the discussion.

But what a wonderful thing for a broadcaster to be so loved that people would so emphatically want him back for another chuckle and smile!
 
Did anyone actually READ the launch post of this thread.

> I don't care how crappy his voice might sound, it was never
> that great anyway. As long as he feels physically up to it,
> I'd like to hear him doing commentary for the Super Bowl.

What part of "AS LONG AS HE FEELS PHYSICALLY UP TO IT" did everyone miss???
 
Actually, it was something else.

> Not at all. There was an immediate kneejerk reaction to
> boycott Iron City in the wake of the Prince firing. It was
> quickly quelled when the brewery workers went public and
> said all that would do is hurt us and cost Pittsburgh jobs.
> In fact, Iron City launched IC Light soon after that and it
> was a huge success for a while.
>
> Ultimately Iron City's problems are incredibly poor
> management and limited resources to compete against
> monster-sized national brewers like A-B, Coors and Miller.

The real problem is that no matter how much advertising you do, even if you run the greatest ads on the top radio stations in town, and get one of the most well-liked and respected people in town to endorse your beer, if the beer doesn't taste good, you're going to have trouble selling it.

Ultimately, Iron City's problems are really bad tasting beer.
 
Re: Did anyone actually READ the launch post of this thread.

I didn't miss it, it just doesn't matter if he feels up to it or not. Dick Clark felt up to doing New Years Eve, and that was embarassing for him and for those that wanted him back on the air.

To mess with the most important broacast of the year so some people can feel good and remember how things used to be and ingore the simple fact that the quality of Myron's work has slipped is to ignore reality. Let it go already.
 
NO!

I guess some people like chicken and others steak- but I really do think Iron City is GREAT beer!

It legitimately is my favorite- not too bold like a dark beer and not too pale like Rolling Rock, Bud, or Coors (and especially Coors Light- which tastes like the can).

> Ultimately, Iron City's problems are really bad tasting
> beer.

IF I MAY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION- And keeping my love of all things local, if you want to have a really good taste to go with a "steak and potato" meal, try Penn Pilsner Dark.

Lots of taste- just really hits the spot.
 
Again, that's dismissive

Maybe I do just have a soft spot for a beloved figure. Myron Cope is the leading ambassador of sports good will in Pittsburgh and to not have him around for this Super Bowl run seems incomplete to so many of us.

But I don't like to be told "Get over it!" That's just rude.

Finally, sure, if his health, desire, voice, whatever isn't up to it, then fine. Case closed.

But you know, if it was me, I'd want more than Joe Gordon to tell me I was through and to be honest I think Myron Cope had his health to think about.

Joe Gordon don't like anything.
 
Re: NO!

> > Ultimately, Iron City's problems are really bad tasting
> > beer.
>
> I guess some people like chicken and others steak- but I
> really do think Iron City is GREAT beer!
>
> It legitimately is my favorite- not too bold like a dark
> beer and not too pale like Rolling Rock, Bud, or Coors (and
> especially Coors Light- which tastes like the can).

From an objective standpoint (if that's possible), beer "experts" claim that Iron City has too much hops for mass appeal to modern palates. Personally, I like a very "hoppy" beer like Iron City, but according to taste test research, the majority of people don't.

Supposedly, Iron City's high hop content makes it an especially good companion to cheap whiskey. When selecting a beer to wash down a shot of whiskey, Iron City's hoppy bitterness becomes an asset.

Your assesment of Coors Light is dead-on correct.

> IF I MAY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION- And keeping my love of all
> things local, if you want to have a really good taste to go
> with a "steak and potato" meal, try Penn Pilsner Dark.
>
> Lots of taste- just really hits the spot.

Penn Pilsner Dark is one of the finest tasting libations that can be found anywhere upon the Earth.

To put this digression slightly on-topic, I find it mildly interesting that beer experts can use the same sort of market testing to measure the appeal of beer that radio experts use to test the appeal of songs. Those who like the taste of Iron City Beer like it a great deal, even though they tend to be among the minority. A good case could be made that fans of Iron City beer are like the fans of classic rock deep cuts -- few in number but deeply loyal.
 
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