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Should Soul 106.3 go all-talk?

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A 1.6 in the latest book. Hell, why not go all-talk with that FM signal? In fact, how about becoming a black talk station. They ain't gonna come close to getting near V103 and WGCI.

They might have a better shot at joining Radio One's new syndicated talk network.

'Cause clearly music ain't the answer.
 
> A 1.6 in the latest book. Hell, why not go all-talk with
> that FM signal? In fact, how about becoming a black talk
> station. They ain't gonna come close to getting near V103
> and WGCI.
>
> They might have a better shot at joining Radio One's new
> syndicated talk network.
>
> 'Cause clearly music ain't the answer.
>

Ain't no way in hell Crawford Broadcasting would ever entertain going with Syndication One's talk radio network, even if some research proved it'd do well.


Broadcasting progressive black thought isn't part of the 'Crawford Stand'...<P ID="signature">______________
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> > A 1.6 in the latest book. Hell, why not go all-talk with
> > that FM signal? In fact, how about becoming a black talk
> > station. They ain't gonna come close to getting near V103
> > and WGCI.
> >
> > They might have a better shot at joining Radio One's new
> > syndicated talk network.
> >
> > 'Cause clearly music ain't the answer.
> >
>
> Ain't no way in hell Crawford Broadcasting would ever
> entertain going with Syndication One's talk radio network,
> even if some research proved it'd do well.
>
>
> Broadcasting progressive black thought isn't part of the
> 'Crawford Stand'...
>
I think Radio One should consider buying Power 92 and Soul 106.3 in order to get into the Chicago market. Maybe they would pump some more dollars into the signals. You can virtually only pick up Soul 106.3 on the South Side of Chicago. How do they expect for the station to do any type of numbers when the signal only reaches part of the population? This is just as ridiculous as having stations like Mix 101.9 or The Loop 97.9 only serving the North or Northwest suburbs. Your audience lives ALL OVER!!!!
 
Keep in mind that that figure is not that great when you consider the entire Arbitron metro is Chicago. You're talking about a signal that really only serves the southland.

Keep in mind that it's simulcast station over in Genoa hits Rockford and does pretty well there. Doubt there will be a rush to flip to anything.



> A 1.6 in the latest book. Hell, why not go all-talk with
> that FM signal? In fact, how about becoming a black talk
> station. They ain't gonna come close to getting near V103
> and WGCI.
>
> They might have a better shot at joining Radio One's new
> syndicated talk network.
>
> 'Cause clearly music ain't the answer.
>
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> I think Radio One should consider buying Power 92 and Soul
> 106.3 in order to get into the Chicago market. Maybe they
> would pump some more dollars into the signals. You can
> virtually only pick up Soul 106.3 on the South Side of
> Chicago. How do they expect for the station to do any type
> of numbers when the signal only reaches part of the
> population? This is just as ridiculous as having stations
> like Mix 101.9 or The Loop 97.9 only serving the North or
> Northwest suburbs. Your audience lives ALL OVER!!!!

92.3 and 106.3 are not allocated to Chicago, and based on their class + antenna height, they're maxed on power. The window of opportunity to move those stations any closer closed long ago.
 
Black talk? That'd be great - It would get Stan and Terry off CKG!!!!!


> A 1.6 in the latest book. Hell, why not go all-talk with
> that FM signal? In fact, how about becoming a black talk
> station. They ain't gonna come close to getting near V103
> and WGCI.
>
> They might have a better shot at joining Radio One's new
> syndicated talk network.
>
> 'Cause clearly music ain't the answer.
>
 
> A 1.6 in the latest book. Hell, why not go all-talk with
> that FM signal? In fact, how about becoming a black talk
> station. They ain't gonna come close to getting near V103
> and WGCI.
>
> They might have a better shot at joining Radio One's new
> syndicated talk network.
>
> 'Cause clearly music ain't the answer.
>

They got a 1.6 on a suburban signal? That's pretty good IMHO.

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> > I think Radio One should consider buying Power 92 and Soul
>
> > 106.3 in order to get into the Chicago market. Maybe they
>
> > would pump some more dollars into the signals. You can
> > virtually only pick up Soul 106.3 on the South Side of
> > Chicago. How do they expect for the station to do any
> type
> > of numbers when the signal only reaches part of the
> > population? This is just as ridiculous as having stations
>
> > like Mix 101.9 or The Loop 97.9 only serving the North or
> > Northwest suburbs. Your audience lives ALL OVER!!!!
>
> 92.3 and 106.3 are not allocated to Chicago, and based on
> their class + antenna height, they're maxed on power. The
> window of opportunity to move those stations any closer
> closed long ago.
>
I like see them go back to H0T 106 <P ID="signature">______________
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> > I think Radio One should consider buying Power 92 and Soul
>
> > 106.3 in order to get into the Chicago market. Maybe they
>
> > would pump some more dollars into the signals. You can
> > virtually only pick up Soul 106.3 on the South Side of
> > Chicago. How do they expect for the station to do any
> type
> > of numbers when the signal only reaches part of the
> > population? This is just as ridiculous as having stations
>
> > like Mix 101.9 or The Loop 97.9 only serving the North or
> > Northwest suburbs. Your audience lives ALL OVER!!!!
>
> 92.3 and 106.3 are not allocated to Chicago, and based on
> their class + antenna height, they're maxed on power. The
> window of opportunity to move those stations any closer
> closed long ago.
>
So what is the point of them even being on the air? Soul 106.3 keeps running television commericals for the Steve Harvey Morning show. If 106.3 isn't allocated for Chicago, then what is the point of running television ads in the Chicago market if most of Chicago cannot hear you?
 
How is it too late? Also can they add more power to both stations?



> > I think Radio One should consider buying Power 92 and Soul
>
> > 106.3 in order to get into the Chicago market. Maybe they
>
> > would pump some more dollars into the signals. You can
> > virtually only pick up Soul 106.3 on the South Side of
> > Chicago. How do they expect for the station to do any
> type
> > of numbers when the signal only reaches part of the
> > population? This is just as ridiculous as having stations
>
> > like Mix 101.9 or The Loop 97.9 only serving the North or
> > Northwest suburbs. Your audience lives ALL OVER!!!!
>
> 92.3 and 106.3 are not allocated to Chicago, and based on
> their class + antenna height, they're maxed on power. The
> window of opportunity to move those stations any closer
> closed long ago.
>
 
> How is it too late? Also can they add more power to both
> stations?

Short-spaced allocations came to a close in the 60s, where stations on second adjacent channels (0.4 MHz from other stations) were able to move fairly close into Chicago. Today, there are also first-adjacent stations on 92.1, 92.5, 106.1 and 106.5 near enough to Chicago to firmly lock WPWX and WSRB in their locations. The same is the case for 106.7 WPPN, which has an allocation similar to 92.3 where it's 0.8 MHz from other Chicago stations, yet WPPN is stuck in Des Plaines.

Add power? Nope. WPWX is already at 50,000 watts which is the max. Without checking distances to other stations, WSRB's only chance to raise power is if they lower their antenna height, and tower height always trumps power. As an example, 10 watts @ 1,000 feet goes a lot farther 1,000 watts @ 10 feet.

92.3 has strong signal over the southern half of the City of Chicago. 106.3 has good signal over the south 1/3 of Chicago. That is reason enough for Crawford to advertise for both stations in Chicago. 107.9 WLEY is a suburban signal, yet it seems they've overcome that adverse situation quite well.
 
> They got a 1.6 on a suburban signal? That's pretty good
> IMHO.

I agree. Those ratings are impressive for a suburban signal. Plus, keep in mind that they are doing very well in specific zip codes in the Southland. 12+ numbers will not normally be that high for any suburban stick, especially one that targets a much-older and more-ethnic demographic. Though you may disagree on the programming or the owners (Crawford), Soul 106.3 is doing much better than most other suburban sticks. I personally think that the music mix of R&B, soul, and dusties is a great fit for the area it covers.

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> > How is it too late? Also can they add more power to both
> > stations?
>
> Short-spaced allocations came to a close in the 60s, where
> stations on second adjacent channels (0.4 MHz from other
> stations) were able to move fairly close into Chicago.
> Today, there are also first-adjacent stations on 92.1, 92.5,
> 106.1 and 106.5 near enough to Chicago to firmly lock WPWX
> and WSRB in their locations. The same is the case for 106.7
> WPPN, which has an allocation similar to 92.3 where it's 0.8
> MHz from other Chicago stations, yet WPPN is stuck in Des
> Plaines.
>
> Add power? Nope. WPWX is already at 50,000 watts which is
> the max. Without checking distances to other stations,
> WSRB's only chance to raise power is if they lower their
> antenna height, and tower height always trumps power. As an
> example, 10 watts @ 1,000 feet goes a lot farther 1,000
> watts @ 10 feet.
>
> 92.3 has strong signal over the southern half of the City of
> Chicago. 106.3 has good signal over the south 1/3 of
> Chicago. That is reason enough for Crawford to advertise
> for both stations in Chicago. 107.9 WLEY is a suburban
> signal, yet it seems they've overcome that adverse situation
> quite well.
>
WSRB is maxed out because they're short-spaced to co-channels WGCY Gibson City to the SW, 2nd adjacent WPPN Des Plaines, and that's because they signed on under the current rules, which is why there's a null to the north & NW. They're already short-spaced with WCKG, so that isn't a factor. They're also short-spaced with WUBU South Bend, which is why there's a big null to the east. I know along US 30 outside of the Valparaiso city limits, there's plenty of bleedover from both WUBU & WSRB. So if Crawford were to want to serve more of the Chicago market with Soul, they could try to make an offer to Nextmedia for 102.3. I don't know if that signal can be upgraded any further, but I already know it's short-spaced with Milwaukee's 102.1 WLUM, plus Chicago's 101.9 & 102.7.
As for WPWX, they're short-spaced as well: WDEK on 92.5 to the west, 92.7 to the NW & SW, but I believe WKIF signed on under the current rules, while WKIE I believe is a pre-1964 since it's short-spaced with WXRT, & WDOW on 92.1 in Dowogiac Michigan. If 92.3 could be moved to the city, it would be even tighter as they would have to put a bigger null to the east to protect WDOW, but then they would have to protect WEZY Racine Wisconsin. They would have a null similar to WDRV to the north to protect 1st adjacent. So 92.3 is best to stay where they are.
 
> So what is the point of them even being on the air? Soul
> 106.3 keeps running television commericals for the Steve
> Harvey Morning show. If 106.3 isn't allocated for Chicago,
> then what is the point of running television ads in the
> Chicago market if most of Chicago cannot hear you?

Well, they have to advertise somewhere.
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> 107.9 WLEY is a suburban
> signal, yet it seems they've overcome that adverse situation
> quite well.

Don't they have a booster in Chicago, though?

-A
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> > 107.9 WLEY is a suburban
> > signal, yet it seems they've overcome that adverse
> situation
> > quite well.
>
> Don't they have a booster in Chicago, though?
>
> -A
>
I don't know. They might have a booster, but never told the FCC they put the booster up. I know I have no problems getting WLEY in downtown Chicago on the car radio. I do know it's no longer listed on the FCC website that they eve have a booster. If WPPN can get a booster in Chicago, they can improve their coverage in the city. It can be heard, but with static.
 
> > So what is the point of them even being on the air? Soul
> > 106.3 keeps running television commericals for the Steve
> > Harvey Morning show. If 106.3 isn't allocated for
> Chicago,
> > then what is the point of running television ads in the
> > Chicago market if most of Chicago cannot hear you?
>
> Well, they have to advertise somewhere.
>
Soul 106.3 does stream on the internet, so for those who can't get them on the radio, especially for people on the north side & northern suburbs, the internet is the next best thing.
 
> > 107.9 WLEY is a suburban
> > signal, yet it seems they've overcome that adverse
> situation
> > quite well.
>
> Don't they have a booster in Chicago, though?
>
> -A
>

I saw an app in the past for a WLEY-FM1 booster but there is no such call or booster on record.
 
Get Real

> A 1.6 in the latest book. Hell, why not go all-talk with
> that FM signal? In fact, how about becoming a black talk
> station. They ain't gonna come close to getting near V103
> and WGCI.

Have you compared coverage areas of 106.3 or V103 or WGCI?

Get real. A 1.6 is excellent in the metro for a station that
covers just a small portion of it.
 
>
> 92.3 has strong signal over the southern half of the City of
> Chicago. 106.3 has good signal over the south 1/3 of
> Chicago. That is reason enough for Crawford to advertise
> for both stations in Chicago.

And I remember when I lived in the western suburbs that the old WYCA used to come in loud and clear at 92.3 out there. Assume Power 92 still does that today.
 
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