This was common in the early days. A lot of these shows had planned on during another season.
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Shows cancelled without notifying the cast
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...Danny Bonaduce claims he found out The Partridge Family was canceled when he reported to the Columbia-Screen Gems lot for work one morning, and the guard at the gate said to him, "The Partridge Family doesn't live here anymore!"...
...and I have an aircheck of Tim Conway appearing on Tom Snyder's ABC Radio show circa '90, claiming that he was at the premiere party for Turn-On -- which turned into the wrap party as well when word began filtering back to producer George Schlatter at the party of what the ABC affiliates were complaining to the programming offices of the network about the show as it was airing in different time zones across the country. Of course, Conway has a history of embellishing incidents to make good stories out of them, and the official cancellation didn't come through until a few days later, but it's safe to suspect that Conway, Schlatter and the rest of the cast knew the series was doomed the night of that sole transmission (5 February 1969) without having to hear it from the ABC brass...
...and I have an aircheck of Tim Conway appearing on Tom Snyder's ABC Radio show circa '90, claiming that he was at the premiere party for Turn-On -- which turned into the wrap party as well when word began filtering back to producer George Schlatter at the party of what the ABC affiliates were complaining to the programming offices of the network about the show as it was airing in different time zones across the country. Of course, Conway has a history of embellishing incidents to make good stories out of them, and the official cancellation didn't come through until a few days later, but it's safe to suspect that Conway, Schlatter and the rest of the cast knew the series was doomed the night of that sole transmission (5 February 1969) without having to hear it from the ABC brass...
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The Jeffersons. And it was still one of the top ten shows on CBS (I think).
I think a lot of TV shows are done that way. I can recal a lot of classic TV shows final episode did not end as if that were the last show but as if they were planning on coming back the next season. And it seemed as if a lot of shows weren't officially CANCELLED until after the last episode of that season was shot and had sometime already aired. Wasn't CBS decision to cancell all of their Rural based shows (Beverly Hillbillies, Green Acres, Mayberry RFD, etc.) made after the season had ended?
...in fact, both Red Skelton and Ed Sullivan never forgave CBS for doing exactly that to their variety shows. Sullivan did specials for CBS, but remained embittered for the rest of his life; Skelton struck a deal with NBC, but that version of the show was only 30 minutes long and failed to catch on (come to think of it, wasn't it the last 30-minute variety series to appear on a network shedule?)...jwk1979 said:
Bennett Cerf didn't find out the original "What's My Line?"
had been canceled until a reporter confronted him in an
airport terminal and asked him how he felt about the cancellation.
Likewise, Pat Carroll came prepared for a second broadcast of
"You're In The Picture." She probably had an inkling that Jackie
Gleason had decided to cancel it himself, but he hadn't told anyone,
so she figured she'd better show up. As we all know, Gleason did
cancel the show that night with his famous monologue about the show's
being the "biggggest bomb in history."
had been canceled until a reporter confronted him in an
airport terminal and asked him how he felt about the cancellation.
Likewise, Pat Carroll came prepared for a second broadcast of
"You're In The Picture." She probably had an inkling that Jackie
Gleason had decided to cancel it himself, but he hadn't told anyone,
so she figured she'd better show up. As we all know, Gleason did
cancel the show that night with his famous monologue about the show's
being the "biggggest bomb in history."
In another similar thread awhile back, someone said Ed O'Neill found out about the cancellation of "Married With Children" when coming out of a hotel during a family visit to Youngstown, Ohio, O' Neill's hometown..Just making small talk with a couple fans who expressed regret over the cancellation..When they realized O' Neill didnt know about it, they apologized...O'Neill replied, "That's quite all right, I'd rather hear about it from you"
Sherman Helmsley (a.k.a. George Jefferson) once said he found out about The Jeffersons cancellation via an article in one of the trade newspapers. That was on CBS from 1975-85. He would then star in Amen on NBC from 1986-90. Marla Gibbs (a.k.a. Florence) would go over from there to 227 on NBC from 1985-89 (I know I'm close for the show's network run).
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the 90`s dark shadows on NBC prime time ended abruptly in the middle of the story.i wonder if the cast was told by the network.
i would think the networks owe it to the cast and crew to be aboveboard and tell them the news.if not legally at least morally.
i would think the networks owe it to the cast and crew to be aboveboard and tell them the news.if not legally at least morally.
Ultimajock said:
In fact, there's an infomercial that advertises what's supposed to be the best of Skelton's show, and everything it shows is from 1970-71 on NBC. I think PBS has rerun some of his 1951-53 NBC shows bit Skelton once said that the CBS years would never be shown again. There goes 17 of 20 years down the drain, but that's just how angry he was.
Sullivan, on the other hand, has been seen in edited reruns on PBS and in syndication, with the emphasis on shows with rock stars (Elvis, the Beatles and the other British groups, the Jackson 5, etc.).
Ted Mack probably took it the most graciously; reportedly he canceled "Amateur Hour" himself before CBS beat him to the punch; after all, his audience was essentially the same as Sullivan's and Skelton's. And leave us not forget that Lawrence Welk made an effortless transition to syndication, as did "Hee Haw".
...when I saw the reruns of The Red Skelton Show over Dallas PBS affiliate KERA-TV/13 in 2002, the station aired material from both the first NBC and earliest CBS half-hour versions. I don't know if the CBS material was mixed in with the NBC films/kinescopes for the specific "Best of" package that Lothian Skelton, Red's widow, authorised for Public TV, but I do recall KERA using what appeared to be unedited kinescopes of the CBS half-hours on occasion. The only two clips I've seen anywhere from the CBS Red Skelton Hour days are the appearance by The Rolling Stones in 1965, and that piece he did on the Pledge of Allegiance, which, of course, had become a Top 40 hit record in 1969...bpatrick said:
I seem to remember that Lawrence Welk learned about ABC cancelling his show by reading it in the newspaper.
I thought at one time I had seen a DVD of some of Red Skelton's shows from the early 60's that was for sale on a TV ad. Were there possibly some episodes from that period that were allowed to go PD like some episodes of the Andy Griffith and Dick Van Dyke shows, The Beverly Hillbillies, etc.?
Ultimajock said:
I would say that the virtual disappearance of the CBS years of the Skelton show after the show's cancellation was a missed opportunity for rediscovery. Doesn't it make you wish it would've been available for syndication? What would've happened if the Red Skelton sketches from his long stint at CBS had been released for syndication?
Regarding 'What's My Line?', while I've read that Bennett Cerf heard about the cancellation from somewhere other than the network, at least that announcement was made ahead of time, so that (eventually) all the cast were informed, and they could do an official 'last show'. The host, John Daly, was the final 'Mystery Guest'.
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