Shows That "Collapsed" Right At The End

[KyDXIn]

Do they even show that "Coy and Vance" season in reruns?

I know CMT reran the Coy and Vance episodes, and according to IMDB there were only 19 C & V episodes out of 146.

that's 19 too many.
Huey Hogg was another I had forgotten about with the Volkswagon Bug with the bullhorns on front. I always wondered what happened to Sonny Shroyner after Enos ended & also wonder if Enos is available on DVD.

This message board discusses a DVD possibility:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080213/board/nest/17293376

Sonny has continued acting. One of his most memorable parts was as Bear Bryant in the movie "Forest Gump". One of his lines is very un-Enos utterance. He also played the bus driver in a movie on Rosa Park's life, and received good reviews for the part. IMDB also says he was in the movie "Ray".

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0795449/

Going off topic here, Daisy's original car, the yellow 72 Dodge Roadrunner , was that hit by a train & then the crash scene used in the intro of every episode of "Fall Guy"...or was that the crash scene from "Dirty Mary Carzy Larry"?

Daisy's car was being driven by Bo and Luke and went over a cliff when its brakes went out. They were helping the pregnant daughter-in-law of a millionaire who was trying to evade him, until Uncle Jessie set him straight. The millionaire wanted his grandbaby to live in a rich society and the daughter-in-law wanted the kid to be a regular kid. The millionaire bought Daisy the Jeep as a replacement.

 

[Braves2005]

Do they even show that "Coy and Vance" season in reruns?

Yes, they have always shown the Coy and Vance episodes in reruns. I watched the show when it is on in first run as a kid so I definitely watched those episodes too. I remember the episode when Bo and Luke returned and Coy and Vance were all together and Coy and Vance left at the very beginning of the episode when they returned.

I even remember the cartoon show The Dukes where they had Bo and Luke as cartoon characters and I believe Coy and Vance also was in that series in the beginning as well while John Schneider and Tom Wopat was still absent from the series because they wanted more money and Schneider and Wopat were both starting out in country music also. Schneider and Wopat had pretty good success as country music artists, Schneider moreso than Wopat (even making albums and having hits while Dukes of Hazzard was red hot in the early 1980's with Schneider having a Top 5 country hit and Top 20 pop hit with his version of It's Now or Never in 1981) with Schneider having 5 number one hits and several more Top 10's between 1984 and 1987 and Wopat having moderate success on the country charts between 1986 and 1991.

 

[nightfly61]

Do they even show that "Coy and Vance" season in reruns?

Yes, they have always shown the Coy and Vance episodes in reruns. I watched the show when it is on in first run as a kid so I definitely watched those episodes too. I remember the episode when Bo and Luke returned and Coy and Vance were all together and Coy and Vance left at the very beginning of the episode when they returned.

I even remember the cartoon show The Dukes where they had Bo and Luke as cartoon characters and I believe Coy and Vance also was in that series in the beginning as well while John Schneider and Tom Wopat was still absent from the series because they wanted more money and Schneider and Wopat were both starting out in country music also. Schneider and Wopat had pretty good success as country music artists, Schneider moreso than Wopat (even making albums and having hits while Dukes of Hazzard was red hot in the early 1980's with Schneider having a Top 5 country hit and Top 20 pop hit with his version of It's Now or Never in 1981) with Schneider having 5 number one hits and several more Top 10's between 1984 and 1987 and Wopat having moderate success on the country charts between 1986 and 1991.

I heard Catherine Bach had to start wearing nylons because her legs were too sexy in her Daisy Duke shorts. When the song "Dazey Duks" by Deuce came out I often wondered if they even ever watched TDOH.

 

[Ultimajock]

Daisy's original car, the yellow 72 Dodge Roadrunner , was that hit by a train & then the crash scene used in the intro of every episode of "Fall Guy"...or was that the crash scene from "Dirty Mary Carzy Larry"?

...the end title crash in Dirty Mary Crazy Larry was indeed the one seen every week at the opening of The Fall Guy. Both the theatrical film and TV series were 20th-Century Fox product...

 

[Braves2005]

Speaking of The Fall Guy, that show collapsed big time after Markie Post left to join Night Court and it moved to Thursdays opposite The Cosby Show and they replaced her with Nedra Volz (Adelaide from Diff'rent Strokes). I don't think she lasted but three episodes but the damage was definitely done by that time and it was up to Lee Majors and Doug Barr to handle things alone after that.

 

[Jeff_Davis]

That's NOT Daisy's car on The Fall Guy...Here's the link at You Tube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPT3rnzXT4A

If you look closely at about 1:07, you can see it's actually a '69 Charger!

 

[jwk1979]

The last season of the Beverly Hillbillies was pretty awful,...Shorty Kellems,...Mark Templeton,..the return of Phil Silvers...ugh

The last two seasons of the Beverly Hillbiliies were pretty unwatchable. They were trying to be topical (which always dates a television show), instead of each episode being a stan alone story, they were being ran as a continuing storyline arc that lasted in some cases 12 episodes or so. Also , the Clampett's had been in California for 8 years by that point so the "Fish out of water" premise of the show had already worn thin. They middle-aged Soupy Sales playing Mrs. Drysdale "YOUNG" nephew fresh out of the Air Force. He was at least in his mid-forties by this point but was playing a 20 something Air Force officer.

 

[KyDXIn]

Speaking of The Fall Guy, that show collapsed big time after Markie Post left to join Night Court and it moved to Thursdays opposite The Cosby Show and they replaced her with Nedra Volz (Adelaide from Diff'rent Strokes). I don't think she lasted but three episodes but the damage was definitely done by that time and it was up to Lee Majors and Doug Barr to handle things alone after that.

Nedra was hot back in the 80's! She was also Miz Tisdale on the Dukes.

 

[jwk1979]

Any successful TV show if it goes on long enough will wear out pretty much every avenue there is to explore. Plus one thing to remember is that shows like the Griffith Show, and really ANY show done in the later 50's, 60's and early 70's did up to 39 episodes a year. That's a lot of content. If you compare that to the 15-20 episodes done currently, that's a lot of material. Plus, commercial loads were lighter due to FCC regulations, which of course meant more content per show.

Another thing the oldies shows that were on that long had going against them was there were still a lot of subjects that were TABOO on television in the 50's, 60's and early 70's that are considered fine by today standards. Could you image Andy having to talk about safe sex to Opie or Beaver coming out to Ward and June? Lucy and Ricky Ricardo couldn't even be shown in the same bed together and they were married to each other in real life.

 

[mleach]

Any successful TV show if it goes on long enough will wear out pretty much every avenue there is to explore. Plus one thing to remember is that shows like the Griffith Show, and really ANY show done in the later 50's, 60's and early 70's did up to 39 episodes a year. That's a lot of content. If you compare that to the 15-20 episodes done currently, that's a lot of material. Plus, commercial loads were lighter due to FCC regulations, which of course meant more content per show.

Another thing the oldies shows that were on that long had going against them was there were still a lot of subjects that were TABOO on television in the 50's, 60's and early 70's that are considered fine by today standards. Could you image Andy having to talk about safe sex to Opie or Beaver coming out to Ward and June? Lucy and Ricky Ricardo couldn't even be shown in the same bed together and they were married to each other in real life.

About I Love Lucy, actually very very early in the show ( the first season ), I believe there were a few times where the Ricardos were shown in bed together. however by the second season it was seperate beds for them. Did someone complain? Did CBS change their minds? For some reason this may be one of I Love Lucy's few mysteries.

The Flintstones OTOH..this gets interesting. At first the show was aimed for adults between having Winston Cigarettes as a sponsor and the few scenes where Fred & Wilma were indeed shown in bed together. However by the second season when it became known more kids were watching the Flinstones than at first thought, Winston was dropped as a sponsor in favor of Welchs Grape Juice (?) and Fred & Wilma went to seperate beds.

Even though the Flintstones' first ( and adult ) season has been seen for years on TV and those Winston ads they did, no problem finding those online. Its amazing how so many people believe to this day that show started off with Pebbles & Bam Bam right off the bat and the thought of Fred & Barney smoking Winstons..that is a "sick joke".

 

[nightfly61]

Any successful TV show if it goes on long enough will wear out pretty much every avenue there is to explore. Plus one thing to remember is that shows like the Griffith Show, and really ANY show done in the later 50's, 60's and early 70's did up to 39 episodes a year. That's a lot of content. If you compare that to the 15-20 episodes done currently, that's a lot of material. Plus, commercial loads were lighter due to FCC regulations, which of course meant more content per show.

Another thing the oldies shows that were on that long had going against them was there were still a lot of subjects that were TABOO on television in the 50's, 60's and early 70's that are considered fine by today standards. Could you image Andy having to talk about safe sex to Opie or Beaver coming out to Ward and June? Lucy and Ricky Ricardo couldn't even be shown in the same bed together and they were married to each other in real life.

About I Love Lucy, actually very very early in the show ( the first season ), I believe there were a few times where the Ricardos were shown in bed together. however by the second season it was seperate beds for them. Did someone complain? Did CBS change their minds? For some reason this may be one of I Love Lucy's few mysteries.

The Flintstones OTOH..this gets interesting. At first the show was aimed for adults between having Winston Cigarettes as a sponsor and the few scenes where Fred & Wilma were indeed shown in bed together. However by the second season when it became known more kids were watching the Flinstones than at first thought, Winston was dropped as a sponsor in favor of Welchs Grape Juice (?) and Fred & Wilma went to seperate beds.

Even though the Flintstones' first ( and adult ) season has been seen for years on TV and those Winston ads they did, no problem finding those online. Its amazing how so many people believe to this day that show started off with Pebbles & Bam Bam right off the bat and the thought of Fred & Barney smoking Winstons..that is a "sick joke".

It was funny when Wilma was pregnant (she never showed), and "Mother" (Fred's mother-in law) came to stay with them. I do remember after Pebbles was born Fred & Barney having cigars!

The later years when Mr Gazoo the alien popped up alot was kinda annoying.

As wholesome as the Brady Bunch was I'm surprised Carol & Mike slept in the same bed & even made out & shut the light off to end the show sometimes!

 

[azumanga]

It was funny when Wilma was pregnant (she never showed), and "Mother" (Fred's mother-in law) came to stay with them. I do remember after Pebbles was born Fred & Barney having cigars!

...only for said cigars to be promptly confiscated by the mother-in-law. Which said alot about the direction the show's sponsorship headed.

 

[Newname]

It was funny when Wilma was pregnant (she never showed), and "Mother" (Fred's mother-in law) came to stay with them. I do remember after Pebbles was born Fred & Barney having cigars!

...only for said cigars to be promptly confiscated by the mother-in-law. Which said alot about the direction the show's sponsorship headed.

Fred:
I LOVE my dear, sweet mother-in-law-OOO, RASSIN' FRASSIN'...! ;D

 

[nightfly61]

It was funny when Wilma was pregnant (she never showed), and "Mother" (Fred's mother-in law) came to stay with them. I do remember after Pebbles was born Fred & Barney having cigars!

...only for said cigars to be promptly confiscated by the mother-in-law. Which said alot about the direction the show's sponsorship headed.

Fred:
I LOVE my dear, sweet mother-in-law-OOO, RASSIN' FRASSIN'...! ;D

As long as we're at it...come to think of it I can't remember ever seeing an episode with Betty Rubble's pregnancy. They should have had him going "BAM! BAM! BAMBAMBAM" while inside her belly.

Facts of Life got lame after while, especially after Edna bought the shop & Jo & Blair graduated. I always thought Jo was the hot one. Maybe I had that underdog thing going. I always thought Baily Quarters was hotter than Jennifer too.

 

[larkin]

Bamm Bamm was left on the Rubble's doorstep. Betty was never pregnant.

 

[Newname]

However, there was a classic 'Family Guy' 'Bam Bam' joke, in which Peter repeats 'BAM! BAM! BAM!' to describe a sex act, before letting Bamm-Bamm (and Emeril) take over. ;D

 

[Don62]

It was also alleged that he did not like working with the young folk. Apparently he "worked" with them but he wasn't the fatherly figure he portrayed.

Basically the same thing was said about Robert Young on "Father Knows Best."
Billy Gray (Bud) has said that all Young cared was that all the actors showed
up on time, knew their lines, and hit their marks. Unlike many family sitcoms,
where the sitcom kids often visit with the grownups' real kids when not working, Young had no off-camera interaction with Gray, Elinor Donahue, and Lauren Chapin.

Young himself once said that he got letters from viewers asking his advice
on child-rearing. His standard answer was that "Father Knows Best" was a television
show written by writers and performed by actors.

"Bud" got busted for drugs or something in real life, so he musta been a piece of work as well.

The sister of Don Grady ("Robbie" on My Three Sons), who played the oldest, more serious sister on Eight Is Enough, committed suicide. Somewhere, there should be a thread on bad things happening to sitcom people and their relatives...

 

[Don62]

I agree that Law & Older (the original one) has really gone down hill. Dittos for E.R. The shows - especially E.R. - are unrecognizable and almost unwatchable.

L&O was tops during the first 3-8 seasons, especially the ones with Chris Noth. The writing was top-notch and won Emmys. E.R. lost its best cast and appeared like a sitcom.

MASH, a favorite of mine, had some funny eps. towards the end, but more often than not, the plots in the last 2-3 years, the seasons after Radar left, were weak, trite, overly dramatic and had way too much preaching.
Essentially, MASH was best when Frank Burns (seasons 1-5) was in the series. This takes in the BJ Honeycutt eps. as well. I prefer the Trapper eps.

 

[LKellerIII]

I agree that Law & Older (the original one) has really gone down hill. Dittos for E.R. The shows - especially E.R. - are unrecognizable and almost unwatchable.

L&O was tops during the first 3-8 seasons, especially the ones with Chris Noth. The writing was top-notch and won Emmys. E.R. lost its best cast and appeared like a sitcom.

MASH, a favorite of mine, had some funny eps. towards the end, but more often than not, the plots in the last 2-3 years, the seasons after Radar left, were weak, trite, overly dramatic and had way too much preaching.
Essentially, MASH was best when Frank Burns (seasons 1-5) was in the series. This takes in the BJ Honeycutt eps. as well. I prefer the Trapper eps.

You may be right about M*A*S*H becoming more preachy near the end...which is odd when you think about it. When the show started in 1973, the US was still in Vietnam, so the anti-war message probably hit home earlier - more than in the later years of the show, in the Carter and Reagan administrations, when we were at peace. It was probably because the writers got bolder in later years, and CBS got less touchy about anti-war messages than in the early 70s Remember that 1973 was only 4 years after CBS cancelled the Smothers Brothers for daring to make a few fairly innocent anti-war remarks.

I know I'm in the minority, but I disagree about the Frank Burns episodes. I much prefered the pompous but multi-dimensional Major Winchester (who actually resembled a human being) to the cartoonish Frank Burns. It also gave the writers a chance to make Houlihan less shrill, and more human and multi-dimensional, because she didn't have the Burns character to play off of anymore.

 

[KyDXIn]

I know I'm in the minority, but I disagree about the Frank Burns episodes. I much prefered the pompous but multi-dimensional Major Winchester (who actually resembled a human being) to the cartoonish Frank Burns. It also gave the writers a chance to make Houlihan less shrill, and more human and multi-dimensional, because she didn't have the Burns character to play off of anymore.

It's hard to believe the Houlihan character is the same character over the history of the program. Even the Nurse Kelly character was more consistant, stable, and believable.