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SIGNAL: 97.1 vs 97.5/98.5/100.7/103.7/107.9

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On paper the eastern rimshots would seem better, but in real world use, northern rimshot 97.1 seems to blow them away. Especially in fringe areas. In my experience, 97.1 is very listenable even in the southern suburbs on table and handheld radios.

Anyone agree or disagree?
 
I have to agree. When I lived in League City, 97.1 and 106.9 always were very dependable signals. On the west side though, where I once worked, always had trouble with 97.5 and 103.7. Sometimes 103.7 would be overcome by tropo near my place in the mornings. I would expect the same problems with Country Legends and the Point, but never had them.
 
schmave said:
I have to agree. When I lived in League City, 97.1 and 106.9 always were very dependable signals. On the west side though, where I once worked, always had trouble with 97.5 and 103.7. Sometimes 103.7 would be overcome by tropo near my place in the mornings. I would expect the same problems with Country Legends and the Point, but never had them.

Tropo can take out 106.9 on the southwest side. I think it's Victoria that comes in on top. I need a good Terk antenna to get 106.9 in the house near the Land of Sugar, but even with that 103.7 and 97.5 are no-shows tropo or not.
 
johndavis said:
schmave said:
I have to agree. When I lived in League City, 97.1 and 106.9 always were very dependable signals. On the west side though, where I once worked, always had trouble with 97.5 and 103.7. Sometimes 103.7 would be overcome by tropo near my place in the mornings. I would expect the same problems with Country Legends and the Point, but never had them.

Tropo can take out 106.9 on the southwest side. I think it's Victoria that comes in on top. I need a good Terk antenna to get 106.9 in the house near the Land of Sugar, but even with that 103.7 and 97.5 are no-shows tropo or not.

Same holds true for 107.5, getting trampled by San Antonio's 107.5 on occassion. 103.7 should have never been aimed at Houston, nor should've 97.5. I have, and I'm sure others have shared in this same experience, picked up KCOL, KIOC, and KYKR with a better signal penetration into Houston during the right conditions than that I could get from either KFNC or KHJK. On any given day, the Liberman rimshots have less drop outs than that of the two Cumulus' offerings.
 
purpledevil said:
Same holds true for 107.5, getting trampled by San Antonio's 107.5 on occassion. 103.7 should have never been aimed at Houston, nor should've 97.5. I have, and I'm sure others have shared in this same experience, picked up KCOL, KIOC, and KYKR with a better signal penetration into Houston during the right conditions than that I could get from either KFNC or KHJK. On any given day, the Liberman rimshots have less drop outs than that of the two Cumulus' offerings.

Who actually listens to the Liberman stations, 103.7 and 97.5?

This would be a person who listens to several flavors of Spanish music, adult album alternative and sports talk.

I don't listen to the Liberman stations and never have, however I live in Katy and listen to 103.7 practically all the time. Unless its getting blasted by tropo from Corpus Christi, it's just fine.
 
johndavis said:
schmave said:
I have to agree. When I lived in League City, 97.1 and 106.9 always were very dependable signals. On the west side though, where I once worked, always had trouble with 97.5 and 103.7. Sometimes 103.7 would be overcome by tropo near my place in the mornings. I would expect the same problems with Country Legends and the Point, but never had them.

Tropo can take out 106.9 on the southwest side. I think it's Victoria that comes in on top. I need a good Terk antenna to get 106.9 in the house near the Land of Sugar, but even with that 103.7 and 97.5 are no-shows tropo or not.

I am a bit surprised only because by line of sight, Sugarland isn't that much farther from the Point's towers than the League City/Friendswood border, where I lived. Of course, you're considerably closer to Victoria there than I was.
The one that always surprised me by being interfered with was KACC. You could see the Alvin towers at night from FM 518, only about 60 yards from my place, but I usually would hear tropo hitting KACC as close as 45 and Bay Area Blvd. It was slight interference but certainly noticeable.
 
radiogooroo said:
purpledevil said:
Same holds true for 107.5, getting trampled by San Antonio's 107.5 on occassion. 103.7 should have never been aimed at Houston, nor should've 97.5. I have, and I'm sure others have shared in this same experience, picked up KCOL, KIOC, and KYKR with a better signal penetration into Houston during the right conditions than that I could get from either KFNC or KHJK. On any given day, the Liberman rimshots have less drop outs than that of the two Cumulus' offerings.

Who actually listens to the Liberman stations, 103.7 and 97.5?

This would be a person who listens to several flavors of Spanish music, adult album alternative and sports talk.

I don't listen to the Liberman stations and never have, however I live in Katy and listen to 103.7 practically all the time. Unless its getting blasted by tropo from Corpus Christi, it's just fine.
For the purposes of this topic discussion, I have, and it's not because I listen to the aforementioned formats themselves, only to compare the signal strengths of each of the 6 eastern rimshots as we have *gasp* had this discussion before.
 
When KWIC (107.9) first moved out to the Devers area from Beaumont, the tropo was so bad and the original antenna height and power so limited that we could not pick up the station in Beaumont. In fact, the studios were still down the street from me and I gave them a call. They assured me that the station was indeed on the air, but said that the 'cows and chickens' in the immediate area of the transmitter were most likely to receive the signal.
 
One problem for the rimshots on the Southwest side of town is the Missouri City anteena farm. All thos 100kw FMs cause most receivers to have "front-end overload" problems and also loose their FM sensitivity making it much harder to pull in the rimshots, HD has only added to the problem, for example KRBE's sidebands on 103.9 cause grief to KHJK 103.7 anywhere near KRBE's transmitter,
 
purpledevil said:
For the purposes of this topic discussion, I have, and it's not because I listen to the aforementioned formats themselves, only to compare the signal strengths of each of the 6 eastern rimshots as we have *gasp* had this discussion before.

Ok. Just wanted to clarify. You're not someone who actually *listens* to these stations. That may explain why your experience is so different from mine. I actually do listen.
 
I listen to LIBERMANS stations, especially El Norte 107.9 KQQK and Baila 96.9 KNTE. These two stations have better programing than Univisions Estereo Latino 102.9 KLTN. The Djs of Libermans are nicer, more attentive to their listners. Always live, and more people friendly, unlike Estereo Latino that plays Raul Brindis in the morning, and then from 11 to 3 pm PIOLIN reruns. So yes I prefer Liberman radio 100% more than Univision.
 
Fieldtech1 said:
One problem for the rimshots on the Southwest side of town is the Missouri City anteena farm. All thos 100kw FMs cause most receivers to have "front-end overload" problems and also loose their FM sensitivity making it much harder to pull in the rimshots, HD has only added to the problem, for example KRBE's sidebands on 103.9 cause grief to KHJK 103.7 anywhere near KRBE's transmitter,

I remember having problems with 97.5, if I was listening, on the tollway within a few miles of the towers. Forget it driving down the Fort Bend Toll Road passing right between all of them!
 
97.5 Is located in Winnie no wonder when you passed through Missouri City there is enough RF there to block out AM on a different band let alone a weak rimshot station thats almost in Beaumont
 
I had trouble with 97.1 for a long time until I got a new radio for Christmas. I live in Clear Lake and never could get a signal. Now, I have a radio with seperate AM antenna and I can hear Dan Gallo every morning, loud and clear!!!
 
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