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Simulcasting news talk AMs on FM sister station

It seems to be happening all over the place...Kansas City, Dallas/Ft. Worth, and now Buffalo. A very strong news-talk AM, simulcasting on a full market signal FM. I wonder if, and when it will happen here? And who's the obvious FM to dump their current format and hook up with a news talker? Any guesses?
 
TexasTuner said:
It seems to be happening all over the place...Kansas City, Dallas/Ft. Worth, and now Buffalo. A very strong news-talk AM, simulcasting on a full market signal FM. I wonder if, and when it will happen here? And who's the obvious FM to dump their current format and hook up with a news talker? Any guesses?

In Dallas, 96.7 is hardly a full market signal...it is a rimshot that barely comes in in west arlington (a couple miles from wbap studios) on a portable when I go running.
 
There has to be a news station first!

Assuming you're suggesting KTRH, my nomination would be KKRW, or KTBZ after 106.9 steals their remaining audience. I'd like to see KLOL and KILT AM pair up for a CBS owned news station, because Cheap Channel will never improve their stations with anything creative.
 
TexasTuner said:
It seems to be happening all over the place...Kansas City, Dallas/Ft. Worth, and now Buffalo. A very strong news-talk AM, simulcasting on a full market signal FM. I wonder if, and when it will happen here? And who's the obvious FM to dump their current format and hook up with a news talker? Any guesses?

I wish I could run the FCC. I would ban simulcasting, unless it is being used to expand the reach of a station, or in case of an emergency/disaster. No simulcasting if the stations cover most of the same area. If you can't make the station work and attract an audience, sell the station and let someone else have a go at it.

Old Chicago
 
OldChicago said:
I wish I could run the FCC. I would ban simulcasting, unless it is being used to expand the reach of a station, or in case of an emergency/disaster. No simulcasting if the stations cover most of the same area. If you can't make the station work and attract an audience, sell the station and let someone else have a go at it.

Old Chicago

I disagree. AMs and FMs have individual strengths. Some AMs have huge reach, but don't do well indoors, particularly in the everything has a computer embedded in it era. FMs have obvious sound quality advantages, but their biggest advantage for talk stations is building penetration.

If for example, KTRH had an FM counterpart, you could listen to the AM on road trips and the FM in the office.
 
radiogooroo said:
OldChicago said:
I wish I could run the FCC. I would ban simulcasting, unless it is being used to expand the reach of a station, or in case of an emergency/disaster. No simulcasting if the stations cover most of the same area. If you can't make the station work and attract an audience, sell the station and let someone else have a go at it.

Old Chicago

I disagree. AMs and FMs have individual strengths. Some AMs have huge reach, but don't do well indoors, particularly in the everything has a computer embedded in it era. FMs have obvious sound quality advantages, but their biggest advantage for talk stations is building penetration.

If for example, KTRH had an FM counterpart, you could listen to the AM on road trips and the FM in the office.

I do, on KKRW-HD3.
 
StevenNOLA said:
radiogooroo said:
OldChicago said:
I wish I could run the FCC. I would ban simulcasting, unless it is being used to expand the reach of a station, or in case of an emergency/disaster. No simulcasting if the stations cover most of the same area. If you can't make the station work and attract an audience, sell the station and let someone else have a go at it.

Old Chicago

I disagree. AMs and FMs have individual strengths. Some AMs have huge reach, but don't do well indoors, particularly in the everything has a computer embedded in it era. FMs have obvious sound quality advantages, but their biggest advantage for talk stations is building penetration.

If for example, KTRH had an FM counterpart, you could listen to the AM on road trips and the FM in the office.

I do, on KKRW-HD3.

Just checked it out..here in Mo City, comes in fine. But I still think KTRH would benefit greatly from a full market FM signal.
 
dfwrunner said:
TexasTuner said:
It seems to be happening all over the place...Kansas City, Dallas/Ft. Worth, and now Buffalo. A very strong news-talk AM, simulcasting on a full market signal FM. I wonder if, and when it will happen here? And who's the obvious FM to dump their current format and hook up with a news talker? Any guesses?

In Dallas, 96.7 is hardly a full market signal...it is a rimshot that barely comes in in west arlington (a couple miles from wbap studios) on a portable when I go running.

Why did Citadel put the simulcast (and the calls) on 96.7 instead of a few kilohertz down on the original FM station and move KSCS format (and calls) to 96.7 instead?
 
KTN Corp said:
dfwrunner said:
TexasTuner said:
It seems to be happening all over the place...Kansas City, Dallas/Ft. Worth, and now Buffalo. A very strong news-talk AM, simulcasting on a full market signal FM. I wonder if, and when it will happen here? And who's the obvious FM to dump their current format and hook up with a news talker? Any guesses?

In Dallas, 96.7 is hardly a full market signal...it is a rimshot that barely comes in in west arlington (a couple miles from wbap studios) on a portable when I go running.

KSCS has historicaly been a top rated country station, i can't imagine a simulcast of an AM talk station would improve te ratings...jut a really badidea to blow up kscs.

Why did Citadel put the simulcast (and the calls) on 96.7 instead of a few kilohertz down on the original FM station and move KSCS format (and calls) to 96.7 instead?
 
Speaking of news, I was in Dallas last week (glad to be back in H Town) and I swear I heard Robert B. McIntyre on the Texas State Network, is that possible? One time I played an air check of his for the Lt. running the AFRT station at Ramstein and he told me to "get real" and go back to work, it would have been about 1995 to '97. I know some in commercial radio sort of look down on AFRT but it really is a good place to work. Back on subject, it's just a matter of time, probably short time, before a major FM stick in Houston goes news talk.
 
You did, indeed, hear the great Mr. McIntyre on TSN. True professionals, like him, will always be needed and appreciated in radio news. At least at the outfits that still believe in radio news. After all, they aren't making any more like him.
 
Gail Delaughter is also on TSN. I think she was with KTRH when they used to have news on that station.
 
stan said:
I think she was with KTRH when they used to have news on that station.

Seriously? KTRH has news at the top and bottom of every hour unless the Astros are on. How much freakin' news do you need? I don't have any trouble getting caught up on the major issues listening to KTRH's news, and if there's anything they miss, I probably wouldn't be that interested in it anyway.
 
But, it's the same news every half hour. They just record one newscast, then play it back every half hour; until the end of the day. If you're going to do that, why bother with news at all.

They never update it, even in light of any breaking news events. Any updates happen while they're carrying a Fox talk show, and, they come from Fox News. You never hear any local news updates until you see them on the 5 or 6 o'clock news on TV.
 
mrbeasley said:
But, it's the same news every half hour. They just record one newscast, then play it back every half hour; until the end of the day. If you're going to do that, why bother with news at all.

They never update it, even in light of any breaking news events. Any updates happen while they're carrying a Fox talk show, and, they come from Fox News. You never hear any local news updates until you see them on the 5 or 6 o'clock news on TV.

Are you sure about that? I don't recall hearing any out of date or inaccurate news on KTRH.

Even if they were doing that, how big of a deal is it? I remember CNN's Headline News used to reuse segments, even entire half hours all the time. I suspect most 24 hours news operations do.
 
One of the problems KTRH has is it's coverage of breaking news stories. Back in the day, there would be several reporters who could cover a story - now they open up the phone lines for amateur hour coverage since many of the reporters have been cut.
 
stan said:
One of the problems KTRH has is it's coverage of breaking news stories. Back in the day, there would be several reporters who could cover a story - now they open up the phone lines for amateur hour coverage since many of the reporters have been cut.

That's the world we live in now. Everyone has a cell phone, usually equipped with a recording device of some sort, and amateurs can get to the stories faster. You don't need a stable of reporters when your entire audience is plugged in and connected.

I'd hazard a guess that for younger listeners, that field audio from people like them actually enhances the station's credibility. These are people who get a fair amount of their news from friends on Facebook and blogs anyway.

I have lots of friends out in West Texas. When the fires broke out there a few days ago, I was getting my "news" from friends who were writing about it on Facebook - not from the traditional news outlets.
 
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