TheRob said:
jdb820 said:TheRob said:
Where does Sinclair find all the money to buy all these stations? They have to have an insane debt load at this point, yes?
How much money can really be made on medium and small market TV? I'd have to guess that at this point their revenues are reaching the levels of purchase-shy, established, diversified groups like Hearst, Gannett, Belo, etc. At what point does Sinclair become #5 behind the O&O's?
By 2015, Sinclair, Gray, Granite, Young, and Nexstar will be one 200+-station mega-group and because the largest market any of the five is in is San Francisco, no watchdog or the FCC will care.
mavtv said:jdb820 said:TheRob said:
Where does Sinclair find all the money to buy all these stations? They have to have an insane debt load at this point, yes?
How much money can really be made on medium and small market TV? I'd have to guess that at this point their revenues are reaching the levels of purchase-shy, established, diversified groups like Hearst, Gannett, Belo, etc. At what point does Sinclair become #5 behind the O&O's?
By 2015, Sinclair, Gray, Granite, Young, and Nexstar will be one 200+-station mega-group and because the largest market any of the five is in is San Francisco, no watchdog or the FCC will care.
Well in this case I read they got a bank loan and analysis give sinclair and their recent activities rave reviews:
http://rbr.com/rave-reviews-for-sinclairs-downmarket-tv-buy/
jdb820 said:Where does Sinclair find all the money to buy all these stations? They have to have an insane debt load at this point, yes?
How much money can really be made on medium and small market TV? I'd have to guess that at this point their revenues are reaching the levels of purchase-shy, established, diversified groups like Hearst, Gannett, Belo, etc. At what point does Sinclair become #5 behind the O&O's?
By 2015, Sinclair, Gray, Granite, Young, and Nexstar will be one 200+-station mega-group and because the largest market any of the five is in is San Francisco, no watchdog or the FCC will care.
jdb820 said:Somebody drag Hearst and Belo to these banks and have them take out a couple billion each. Can't hurt to do so.
Eric Stein said:Also note that in some markets, they're spinning off stations to other individuals. One of them, Armstrong Williams, is a political commentator who has a weekly right-leaning program airing (by corporate mandate) on Sinclair stations in most of the markets they operate in.
poledo said:Wasn't this whole "nationwide station grab" pretty much started by Bud Paxon? Pax's business model didn't really work out in the end but it still set a precedent that the FCC is going to be stuck with.
If the FCC decided to "waste government tax dollars" to take Sinclair to the Supreme Court in today's environment I could see things getting even worse. Sinclair has never been silent about the owners' political views.
poledo said:Perhaps I was vague or perhaps I misunderstood your response but I was trying to say I believe that if the FCC were to make the mistake of going after Sinclair that the end result would be DC changing the laws making Sinclair a much larger corporation. My thought process on this statement is to complicated and political to spell it out.
Now down the road in a different political and economic environment I could see DC stopping Sinclair.
jdb820 said:poledo said:Perhaps I was vague or perhaps I misunderstood your response but I was trying to say I believe that if the FCC were to make the mistake of going after Sinclair that the end result would be DC changing the laws making Sinclair a much larger corporation. My thought process on this statement is to complicated and political to spell it out.
Now down the road in a different political and economic environment I could see DC stopping Sinclair.
Political environment does not matter in this case. Under a Republican administration, they actually shrank slightly, lost a ton of money with the News Central debacle, and nearly went bankrupt. During the Democrat administrations on either side of said administration, they went through massive growth (Act III/River City/Abry/Guy Gannett/etc. under Clinton, Four Points/Freedom/Barrington/half of Newport/Cox's outcasts to date under Obama).
So which political environment could Sinclair be limited? The one they side with or the one that's turned a blind eye and let them run amok?
Maybe you could write a letter to them or something.kilamanjero said:jdb820 said:poledo said:Perhaps I was vague or perhaps I misunderstood your response but I was trying to say I believe that if the FCC were to make the mistake of going after Sinclair that the end result would be DC changing the laws making Sinclair a much larger corporation. My thought process on this statement is to complicated and political to spell it out.
Now down the road in a different political and economic environment I could see DC stopping Sinclair.
Political environment does not matter in this case. Under a Republican administration, they actually shrank slightly, lost a ton of money with the News Central debacle, and nearly went bankrupt. During the Democrat administrations on either side of said administration, they went through massive growth (Act III/River City/Abry/Guy Gannett/etc. under Clinton, Four Points/Freedom/Barrington/half of Newport/Cox's outcasts to date under Obama).
So which political environment could Sinclair be limited? The one they side with or the one that's turned a blind eye and let them run amok?
I think the problems with those at the FCC is they are more worried about the top 10 markets, but the NYC, Chicago, Philly, and DC markets in particular because that is where most of them reside or are from originally. It is like the rest of the top 50 markets in the US, where the vast majority of the US population resides (and where future socially progressive support will likely come from), are irrelevant because they aren't those 4.
That is flat out stupid, very shortsighted, and will come back to haunt the FCC and those "elitist liberals" whom think like them...
kilamanjero said:I think the problems with those at the FCC is they are more worried about the top 10 markets, but the NYC, Chicago, Philly, and DC markets in particular because that is where most of them reside or are from originally.
It is like the rest of the top 50 markets in the US, where the vast majority of the US population resides (and where future socially progressive support will likely come from), are irrelevant because they aren't those 4.
That is flat out stupid, very shortsighted, and will come back to haunt the FCC and those "elitist liberals" whom think like them...
kilamanjero said:San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose is very similar but due the very large activist community there it is doubtful anything would be tried by any of the companies like Sinclair, Nexstar, etc.
jdb820 said:kilamanjero said:San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose is very similar but due the very large activist community there it is doubtful anything would be tried by any of the companies like Sinclair, Nexstar, etc.
Oddly enough, San Francisco is probably the easiest market Sinclair could get into in the Top 10 given how KRON and KOFY could be bought on the cheap and the lack of interest from the obvious slam dunk owner (Fox) to purchase them. Of course, seeing how Granite and Young entered and lost their shirts with the same stations...
Come to think of it, there isn't much else in the Top 10 markets that could even be up for sale period. Take away rimshot WLNY and the last time anything changed hands when Tribune (foolishly) left Boston and Atlanta back in 2006. Even in the Top 25, Sinclair's stations are almost all-netlet (WPGH the only Fox and they look far smaller than their market) and are in markets where they really can't upgrade.