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Sinclair to show children's programming starting July 1
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Okay, I found out that my cable provider was providing the wrong schedule for Kidsclick. When I woke up at 3 in the morning today, they were playing Eurotrip, which should have been playing between 11PM-1AM.
So it looks like LA actually has a decent time slot. Just add three hours to the schedule.
So it looks like LA actually has a decent time slot. Just add three hours to the schedule.
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Well nice to see some kids programming on local TV that isn't all boring E/I shows and Jack Hanna animal adventures. Maybe if this is successful, other local networks will follow and we'll have cartoons back on weekends and weekdays again.
KMYS in San Antonio moved some of its paid programming and Cesar Milan Family Edition to 2am. Good riddance lol.
KMYS in San Antonio moved some of its paid programming and Cesar Milan Family Edition to 2am. Good riddance lol.
Considering that there are many people are becoming "cord cutters" and that both Turner/AT&T (Cartoon Network) & Viacom (Nickelodeon) aren't on Netflix (the most used streaming service in USA,but Turner is on Hulu), you may be right.
Also, it's a little known fact that the 2 Spanish networks Univision and Telemundo are still doing cartoons (well, preschool shows), via Disney Junior (because of Univision's relationship with ABC) and Sprout (both Telemundo and Sprout owned by NBCUniversal).
However, this idea may sound a little off, but I wonder if TV companies or the big 4 networks (plus The CW) can make deals with the Big 3 kids networks (Disney, CN, & Nick)?
If it's TV Companies...
Nexstar & MeTV?: Nickelodeon.
TEGNA & GetTV: Cartoon Network.
Scripps & Laff: Disney?
If it's the Big 4 (& The CW)...
CBS: Nickelodeon (because of CBS' past with Viacom) or Cartoon Network (because CBS is partially owned by Time Warner)
NBC: Sprout or old shows produced by DHX Media (ex. Sabrina)
Fox: Cartoon Network (if CBS doesn't get it)
ABC: Disney (of course (Disney owns ABC))
The CW: Nickelodeon (if CBS gets Cartoon Network, because CW is owned by CBS, who had a history with Viacom) or revival of Vortexx.
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Hmmm...a typo in there. CBS isn't partially owned by Time Warner.
Cartoon Network is owned by Turner which is owned by Time Warner.
There is a chance that some of the Turner cable channels will be sold or spun in the AT&T purchase of Time Warner. That may be what you're referring to.
Also Sprout will be renaming itself Universal Kids in September.
In the early 2000's the big 3 networks had deals with cable channels. CBS ran shows from Nick (mainly Nick Jr.) which were co-owned at the time, NBC carried shows from Sprout, which it co-owned with PBS, and ABC carried shows from Disney, which was no big surprise.
Another big factor in the death of Saturday morning cartoons was the networks and local stations expanding their morning news shows to Saturdays. When that happened it left them with only the 3 hours for E/I programming, which eventually was changed to the Litton type shows. I've said it before in other threads that even if E/I is eventually repealed that Saturday mornings won't go back to cartoons. Instead we'll end up with more news or sports at best or infomercials at the worst. Fox and CW stations have proved that already.
The Digi-Net "This TV" finally added a West Coast feed on July 1, no doubt to maximize the audience for Kids Click
It's time for the FCC to do away with the E/I programming and count cartoons as kids programming. I think the only other station group that would try a cartoons would be Nexstar they could use WXSP to run the kids block would mainly be The CW, MYNet TV, maybe Fox stations that may not do much newscast.
Actually no regarding NBC. The Sprout-NBC Kids thing was just a few years ago. They used to air Discovery Kids on NBC in the 2000s - Tutenstein, Endurance, Kenny the Shark, etc. Before 2002, it was TNBC.
CBS aired Nickelodeon and Nick Jr. shows between 2000-2006. At first it was just Nick Jr. shows, then they added Nickelodeon shows like The Wild Thornberrys and ChalkZone. These shows qualified for E/I credit. Although where I used to live, KIRO Seattle threw some of those Nick shows to 5AM Sunday, opting to air syndicated E/I on Saturday afternoons after CBS Sports ended - Wild About Animals was one of them. They still air E/I at 5:30AM Sunday mornings, namely Chicken Soup for the Soul's Hidden Heroes.
CBS aired Nickelodeon and Nick Jr. shows between 2000-2006. At first it was just Nick Jr. shows, then they added Nickelodeon shows like The Wild Thornberrys and ChalkZone. These shows qualified for E/I credit. Although where I used to live, KIRO Seattle threw some of those Nick shows to 5AM Sunday, opting to air syndicated E/I on Saturday afternoons after CBS Sports ended - Wild About Animals was one of them. They still air E/I at 5:30AM Sunday mornings, namely Chicken Soup for the Soul's Hidden Heroes.
Now that you brought it up I do remember Discovery Kids being on NBC, and there was also Qubo from ION after that. Thanks for the info.
I believe it's possible for the networks to come up with Kid's shows that would qualify as E/I and still be entertaining if they would get off their wallets. Beakman's World, which was originally on CBS and has been on CW in recent years was a good example. Instead they took away a lot of the time with morning news shows and filed in what was remaining with Litton's shows or similar things.
RIP Saturday morning kid's shows.
I believe it's possible for the networks to come up with Kid's shows that would qualify as E/I and still be entertaining if they would get off their wallets. Beakman's World, which was originally on CBS and has been on CW in recent years was a good example. Instead they took away a lot of the time with morning news shows and filed in what was remaining with Litton's shows or similar things.
RIP Saturday morning kid's shows.
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Now that you brought it up I do remember Discovery Kids being on NBC, and there was also Qubo from ION after that. Thanks for the info.
I believe it's possible for the networks to come up with Kid's shows that would qualify as E/I and still be entertaining if they would get off their wallets. Beakman's World, which was originally on CBS and has been on CW in recent years was a good example. Instead they took away a lot of the time with morning news shows and filed in what was remaining with Litton's shows or similar things.
RIP Saturday morning kid's shows.
My kids enjoy shows on Saturday morning. The notion that they're not on ABC/CBS/NBC is antiquated thinking. (And we've actually found some of the ABC E/I shows rather engaging, for what it's worth.) The networks have no need to open their wallets for a shrinking market. Nickelodeon, Disney, Cartoon Network, Netflix, Hulu and even PBS Kids--that's where the kids are going to be (and re-runs of second-tier shows from two decades ago aren't going to reverse that trend in an appreciable way). They've built the brands, they are the destinations where the kids will be anyway. Kids today have far more available to them than I ever had, so I don't see how there's anything missing from their experience.
Beakman's World and Bill Nye are on MeTV Sunday Mornings and considered E/I.....but of course your location and WBBJ's neutering of MeTV to like what 20 hours a WEEK you dont get to see it
It becomes somewhat fractional to aim for the (still-in-the-minority) number of "cord cutters" who also aren't subscribing to one of the alternate services--Netflix, Hulu, standalone HBO, CBS, YouTube, Playstation....and on and on. Using lower caliber programming certainly mitigates the risk, but I wouldn't read anything bigger into it, suggesting it might lead to a larger wave--at least not anytime soon.
I mainly meant Saturday mornings on the OTA networks. I'll admit there is still new programming on the big 3 Kid's cable networks on Saturday and all through the rest of the week.
WBBJ could probably show Beakman's World and Bill Nye depending on the time if it doesn't conflict with CBS, but they fill Sunday morning local time with infomercials and a couple of church programs. They probably try to justify it by claiming the infomercials pay for Me TV during the rest of the week. It still looks like they'll never get off their wallets to rearrange their bandwidth to where Me TV could be added full time any time soon.
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Beakman is on at 7 & 7:30 and Bill Nye is 8 & 8:30 Central so looking at schedules they could show Beakman (I see at 8 is CBS programming)
Hey I see a week from Sunday (7/23) you get 6 hours of uninterrupted MeTV starting at 11AM (no golf on CBS that weekend)
It still looks like they'll never get off their wallets to rearrange their bandwidth to where Me TV could be added full time any time soon.
I'm still floored that MeTv/Weigel allows WBBJ to hold it hostage while only showing like 4 hours a day of programming. But in their defense they (WBBJ) have to provide at least 5 Mbps for CBS per their contract (Its been posted here before). Could they take a couple Mbps from ABC and give it to a full time MeTv? Sure they could. But I guess they dont want to (or their contract with ABC says they have to use X amount of Mbps like it is for CBS....but according to rabbitears Bahakel's ABC in Columbia SC they use less bandwidth for ABC than they do for WBBJ)
The TV listings in papers I look at when I go to the library show programs like "Lucky Dog" on CBS among "Best Bets". Those still aren't cartoons.
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