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Sinking Feeling

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SirRoxalot

Buffalo/Niagara drops to #58 in the latest Nielsen market rankings, with an in-tab population of 983,500.

Rochester remains close behind, dropping to #60 with an in-tab population of 962,700.

Moving up are:

54 Monmouth-Ocean at 1,044,100
55 Louisville 1,041,300
56 McAllen-Brownsville-Harlingen at 1,017,400
57 Ft. Myers-Naples at 984,300

Anybody else remember when Buffalo was a Top 25 market?
 
It's part of an overall population shift away from the northeast. The biggest one this time was Detroit, dropping to #13, jumped by Seattle. There was a time, not long ago, when Detroit was a Top 10. Philadelphia has been falling too.
 
TheBigA said:
It's part of an overall population shift away from the northeast. The biggest one this time was Detroit, dropping to #13, jumped by Seattle. There was a time, not long ago, when Detroit was a Top 10. Philadelphia has been falling too.
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Just look at Cleveland's rank today (it slipped one more notch) vs. the 50's when it was the 8th largest metro!
 
TheBigA said:
It's part of an overall population shift away from the northeast. The biggest one this time was Detroit, dropping to #13, jumped by Seattle. There was a time, not long ago, when Detroit was a Top 10. Philadelphia has been falling too.
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So will there come a day when ESPN does not max out on Red Sox and Yankees games, opting instead for Sun Belt and West Coast teams?
 
CTListener said:
So will there come a day when ESPN does not max out on Red Sox and Yankees games, opting instead for Sun Belt and West Coast teams?
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It doesn't hurt that the playoffs have LA Dodgers and Houston Astros. The NL playoffs between Dodgers & Cubs led the cable ratings Sunday night.
 
TheBigA said:
It doesn't hurt that the playoffs have LA Dodgers and Houston Astros. The NL playoffs between Dodgers & Cubs led the cable ratings Sunday night.
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Cubs and Dodgers are solid national "brands." So are the Cardinals, who aren't in the playoffs. Astros games without a "brand name" opponent wouldn't do well -- if the Indians were their opponent, for example, or the Twins. But ESPN has found NY/Boston the easiest route to ratings for many years, and apparently doesn't care if most of those viewers are crammed into a corner of the country that is now losing population.
 
CTListener said:
ESPN has found NY/Boston the easiest route to ratings for many years, and apparently doesn't care if most of those viewers are crammed into a corner of the country that is now losing population.
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It doesn't matter if its losing population if the remaining residents are fans of those teams. And when those fans leave their home states for whatever reasons, they tend to remain fans of their original teams. Lots of Red Sox and Yankee fans at those Houston games.
 
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After Hurricane Katrina, New Orleans lost around 40 percent of its population. Their rank dropped quickly. They have bounced back significantly since then.

Buffalo has been declining for decades. The population loss has slowed, but other areas in the country are growing and passing them by. The Bills recently ranked #32
(Dead last) in net worth of all NFL teams...
 
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I seemed to remember Buffalo as something like the 14th market in the mid-60s. Knowing you as I do, you'll probably research it and let us know for sure.
 
yugoidar said:
I seemed to remember Buffalo as something like the 14th market in the mid-60s. Knowing you as I do, you'll probably research it and let us know for sure.
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I do not have the mid-60's time period rankings on radio markets, but by 1975 it was 27th.

Remember, different ratings companies in the 60's used different market metros. Pulse and Hooper were often different, and then Arbitron began in '65, rolling out to markets like Buffalo, IIRC, in 1967.
 
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