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Sirius XM dumping "The Strobe" to online only

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TonySantiago

This was noted on "The Strobe" Facebook group page....

" Hi Strobe fans...

Effective at 6 PM ET tonight, THE STROBE will be a part of our ONLINE SERVICE only. You will be able to hear it at www.sirius.com and www.xmradio.com. You will also be able to hear it on your favorite mobile device with the Sirius XM mobile apps. The Strobe will no longer be available on satellite.

Channel 81 on Sirius will be the new home of our Jam_On channel.

If you are an XM subscriber, please check out XM 64 The GROOVE, which will begin playing classic dance and disco along with it's usual funk as of tonight.

Deney Terio has moved to the 70s on 7. You can hear Deney Terio's Saturday Night Party Fever on Sirius and XM 7 from 9 PM-3 AM ET starting tomorrow night.

From everyone at Sirius XM and The Strobe, we want to thank you for supporting classic dance and disco over the years, and we hope you will continue to support it online with the most disco hits on The Strobe."

Most of you can read my thoughts here....
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=93845172523&topic=14598

We ARE conducting a petition drive on this and urging people NOT to write angry letters nor threaten to cancel Sirius XM. Keeping things positive is how we can achieve :)
 
DJ_Perry said:
Again? i thought this happened a couple years ago and it was a mistake.
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It did. Just after the merger happened. When they did the new lineup, only BPM, SiriusXM "Chill" and Area made it through and "The Strobe" didn't. A couple of days later, they brought "The Strobe" back. Now, "The Strobe" is only going to be online. The Groove (ONLY on XM64) will have disco added there. Sirius listeners are out of luck.

Even though "The Strobe" still technically exists, if you can't hear it on car stereos, smartphones or portable devices, it might as well be "gone". :(
 
Thats lame,, They could at least add Disco and Classic Dance to our Soul Town Channel... I didnt listen to it anyway,, I probably would be more likely to listen to a true Rhythmic AC,, but this is gonna hurt the Classic Dance Fans,, Look for 90s and 80s Dance to be played sporatically on BPM any day now.
 
Mid West Clubber said:
Thats lame,, They could at least add Disco and Classic Dance to our Soul Town Channel... I didnt listen to it anyway,, I probably would be more likely to listen to a true Rhythmic AC,, but this is gonna hurt the Classic Dance Fans,, Look for 90s and 80s Dance to be played sporatically on BPM any day now.
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Before we jump somewhere, do realize that there was a large enough crowd that loved the heritage of dance music.

The rhythmic A/C of today, if we base it on how 'KTU in New York sounds has more of a current flow with minimal classics in there. You still have a group of people that loved the classics. In New York, freestyle still hangs strong with people. And for the majority of people in this country, "The Strobe" was the ONLY place to hear this music.

If corporate is thinking that the disco crowd is getting old, then why still have a "40's on 4" station? No diss on big band music, but really how many people are still alive from that era?
 
This would upset todays younger dance crowd,,, but I actually liked the way THE BEAT used to sound when they also played freestyle and 90s dance,
 
Why not set up a stream and relay the particular channel that someone requests,, If your worried about legal,, you could make it private and stream it just to one person at a time.
 
DJ_Perry said:
DirecTV has decent music channels featuring Disco, Funk, Classic Hip Hop, and even Dance too! Let me know if you need my account number as a referral sign up.
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If I only had a terrace facing southwest :( I am HATING on Cablevision right now. Yep, I'm one of the 3 million in NYC affected by not seeing local Fox stations. (WNYW - Fox 5, WWOR - My 9)
 
Mid West Clubber said:
This would upset todays younger dance crowd,,, but I actually liked the way THE BEAT used to sound when they also played freestyle and 90s dance,
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No, no, no, no! You may have revisionist memory of The Beat/BPM. The Beat/BPM sounded its worst when it tried to cater to both modern dance and classic dance listeners (don't you remember-- it was new wave music next to Deepest Blue). It succeeded at satisfying neither, and instead sounded like a schizophrenic mess. The successful programmers realize that classic and modern dance attract two completely different demographics, and the disco/classic dance "pie" isn't getting any larger.

If there is to be a listener campaign, I'd like to see BPM play MORE modern Dance music. Their new music Friday is a start, and while BPM is not as bad as it was right after they canned Skyy, it can't hold a candle to even terrestrial options such as the Vibe.

Tony, I recall warning you during your last Sirius XM campaign (to keep BPM but also bring back The Beat) that this message would encourage the programmers to water down BPM with The Beat's old programming mantra-- well, we saw how that turned out (shortly after the campaign, "The Beat Morning Show" was announced, Geronimo was given programming duties, Skyy and Aramondo were both canned, and new music was drastically reduced in favor of burned out recurrents). Be careful what you wish for -- BPM went from being a good station to a complete disappointment. I can't possibly imagine you liked those "improvements". I also don't believe those changes were your intention, and I'm not, in any way, saying that your campaign caused those changes. But when a whole bunch of similarly minded individuals together sent them that message, Sirius XM execs made the decision they believed would keep the greatest majority of thier users happy -- please both camps (BPM and The Beat listeners) by merging the two channels into one. They combined the worst elements of each channel. You have to remember this is all a business -- the person making these decisions doesn't know squat about dance music.

I do not advise the message you would be sending with your new campaign either -- the reality is that Sirius XM is NOT going to allot Dance/EDM any extra bandwith/channel space, so the best you can hope for with your campaign is that the powers that be will once again butcher (destroy) BPM. That is neither in the best interest of myself as a Sirius listner, nor us as a dance community that wants to dispel the stereotype of bellbottoms and disco shoes as dance music slowly picks up steam domestically.
 
I actually do like Classic and Current Dance,, not Disco,, but I like 80s and 90s Dance,, but I guess im older than the younger demo that wouldnt remember this music,, the yonger end of BPM goes back to about 93-94,, and they wouldnt even have many memories of 90s dance being on radio,, as even I barely remember the real early 80s Dance myself,, My memory of EDM goes back to about 87,,, 88 on a bad day, and 86 on a good day. Tony probably remembers Disco.
 
Heads UP,, already heard some older dance on BPM today.. Nalin and Kane-Beachball,,,, Mon AQ-Stay in Love,,,, Dont know if this is a prep for 90s and 80s dance coming or not.
 
PhDance said:
Tony, I recall warning you during your last Sirius XM campaign (to keep BPM but also bring back The Beat) that this message would encourage the programmers to water down BPM with The Beat's old programming mantra-- well, we saw how that turned out (shortly after the campaign, "The Beat Morning Show" was announced, Geronimo was given programming duties, Skyy and Aramondo were both canned, and new music was drastically reduced in favor of burned out recurrents). Be careful what you wish for -- BPM went from being a good station to a complete disappointment. I can't possibly imagine you liked those "improvements". I also don't believe those changes were your intention, and I'm not, in any way, saying that your campaign caused those changes. But when a whole bunch of similarly minded individuals together sent them that message, Sirius XM execs made the decision they believed would keep the greatest majority of thier users happy -- please both camps (BPM and The Beat listeners) by merging the two channels into one. They combined the worst elements of each channel. You have to remember this is all a business -- the person making these decisions doesn't know squat about dance music.

I do not advise the message you would be sending with your new campaign either -- the reality is that Sirius XM is NOT going to allot Dance/EDM any extra bandwith/channel space, so the best you can hope for with your campaign is that the powers that be will once again butcher (destroy) BPM. That is neither in the best interest of myself as a Sirius listner, nor us as a dance community that wants to dispel the stereotype of bellbottoms and disco shoes as dance music slowly picks up steam domestically.
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I remember it well PhDance,

When the merger happened, my whole intention was to keep BPM as it was, but "the suits" at Sirius were going to be hell bent on destroying it anyway. If nothing was said, I honestly would believe that BPM would have been TOTALLY gone and "The Beat" in its entirety would have been the "dance channel". So, I had to think of some sort of medium whereas we could be partially satisfied and the "suits", that were going to do what they were going to do anyway, could meet us somehow to at least come to some sort of medium. Yeah, back then was rocky and there were tons of programming issues that occured then. For the most part, I believe things have settled. But really, I think whatever we did on that campaign may have been a sort of "stop gap" to what could have been a LOT worse....IMHO.

Taking it into "The Strobe", this has NOTHING AT ALL to do with BPM. It has to do with the heritage of dance music. The crowd that tunes into "The Strobe" are of a different demographic than BPM and Electric Area. They are being told to go to a channel, while albeit not a bad channel - "The Groove" - it will NEVER cover most of the disco aspect that "The Strobe" did. And let's face it.....the only people that are thinking of the bellbottom, "boogie shoe" stereotype are the older folks. And they're not going to care to listen to BPM. They want "The Strobe". They would be just as upset as current fans would be if the disco aspect of music were to appear on "BPM". As it is, the vast majority of us can't stand the "Bagatelle Brunch"!

My point is this. WE HAVE TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING HERE. We just can't let our resources and heritage drop off. Today's music WILL be tomorrow's heritage. 90's dance is becoming that right now. That's really what this is about...OUR HERITAGE. And NO, we don't want BPM or Electric Area to go out either! Yet you still have 20 or so rock channels, R&B channels, country channels. ONE of those could have been given up for Pearl Jam. It's a deeper issue going on and I just want the suits to know....WE ARE HERE!

Believe me PhDance, you know all I want for us is the very best! And I feel bad for Mike Abrams because he really did try to keep things going with "The Strobe".
 
Mid West Clubber said:
Tony probably remembers Disco.
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As a 12 year old child discovering the FM dial and tuning in to Disco 92 ('KTU) in New York :). I was too young (nor a celebrity name, lol) to get into Studio 54 back then but yep, I was a young follower of disco but what more appealed to were the on-air personalities (G. Keith Alexander, Paco, Carlos DeJesus, Rosko, Joe Causi, etc.) because they did not sound ANYTHING like what we were accustomed to hearing back then (Musicradio 77 WABC as an example). That made 'KTU very unique and special :)
 
Don't kid yourself, someone at Sirius hates Disco music. They always pick on The Strobe. Look at channel 5, this is 50s music. Most people who would listen to this channel are either dead or too old and would not buy or subscribe to Sirius. I would imagine they have 10 listeners yet they would not cancel the 50s channel. Don't be fooled that old term lets kill disco is still alive and well and perhaps living in Mr. Scott Greenstein of Sirius.
Regards,,, Late
 
latenight said:
Don't kid yourself, someone at Sirius hates Disco music. They always pick on The Strobe. Look at channel 5, this is 50s music. Most people who would listen to this channel are either dead or too old and would not buy or subscribe to Sirius. I would imagine they have 10 listeners yet they would not cancel the 50s channel. Don't be fooled that old term lets kill disco is still alive and well and perhaps living in Mr. Scott Greenstein of Sirius.
Regards,,, Late
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Do we dare talk about "40's on 4" :D

The petition drive is alive and well. If you want to participate, you can click the link below, make as many copies as you can, get as many signatures as possible and mail it to the address below (do not mail them to me).

http://members.verizon.net/~vze4tsqw/petition.pdf
 
I discovered Mon A Q "stay in love" all because I happened to be at the right place at the right time when it first came out. My sister learned it pretty quick, due to the massive amounts of time I used to play it. I told Mon A Q my story about what I did just to get her exclusive cd single that seemingly wasn't available in regular record stores - at the time I wanted to have it. She loved it. Anyway, those are all my Mon A Q stay in love stories for now.

I also liked many of the songs released by different artists after Mon A Q's single that copied or imitated that production sound and style, whether intentionally or coincidentally.
 
As mentioned by PhDance above, The Beat on Sirius was a complete MESS when it incorporated Freestyle & 80s/90s tracks (i.e. New Order into Christina Aguilera into some Freestyle track into Black Eyed Peas into a current dance track). The more modern BPM can be, the better. Classic Dance belongs on a Current Dance station only in tiny doses. Lately BPM was sounding as good as it has since Alan Freed was running things there IMO. People big up Skyy on these boards but he transitioned BPM from the import/pure dance sound of Freed to a pop remix sound.
 
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