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SiriusXM Liberty Media Merger

Every once in a while Warren gets it wrong. He did lose around $5 billion with airline stocks. Of course he got Net Jets correct.


Warren usually is not a "turnaround" guy. Usually the management stays intact. So he sees something most folks don't. I hope he didn't have a "senior moment".
SXM will stick around, if it dies what’s left, terrestrial radio? They know the value in SXM.
 
SXM will stick around, if it dies what’s left, terrestrial radio?
That, and streaming. It's terrestrial that has a future, albeit not as robust as before the sea change brought on by the internet. SXM is handicapped by being a service that people have to pay for -- and there's still plenty of resistance to that out there -- and by its expensive satellite distribution system, affected by trees and hills to a much greater extent than AM and FM.
 
That, and streaming. It's terrestrial that has a future, albeit not as robust as before the sea change brought on by the internet. SXM is handicapped by being a service that people have to pay for -- and there's still plenty of resistance to that out there -- and by its expensive satellite distribution system, affected by trees and hills to a much greater extent than AM and FM.
People are not afraid to pay for content if they really want it.
 
But SXM is finding that there aren't enough of those people to keep subscriber numbers growing, especially after free trial periods end.
They only sell so many cars a year and that is their biggest source of listeners. It seems be working for Spotify though.
 
Sirius WAS a penny stock. It went down to 2 cents. Then Malone came along and bought a bunch of stock. Investors trust Malone. Buffett trusts Malone to run the company. Here's what Motley Fool says:


According to this, Malone is still the largest shareholder.
Okay, then back to a penny stock, because we both know this whole deck chairs stock thing amounts to buying time in a hope Wall St. will realize traditional media isn't such a bad investment after all.
 
Okay, then back to a penny stock, because we both know this whole deck chairs stock thing amounts to buying time in a hope Wall St. will realize traditional media isn't such a bad investment after all.
Could they take the company private?
 
Okay, then back to a penny stock, because we both know this whole deck chairs stock thing amounts to buying time in a hope Wall St. will realize traditional media isn't such a bad investment after all.

Once again, this new stock incorporates Liberty Media with SiriusXM. Not just SiriusXM.

You think satellite radio is traditional media?

Could they take the company private?

It would cost them $9 billion. You think that's a smart idea?
 
Once again, this new stock incorporates Liberty Media with SiriusXM. Not just SiriusXM.



It would cost them $9 billion. You think that's a smart idea?
9 billion, seems like plenty to keep the company running. I thought they were in dire straights.
 
Once again, this new stock incorporates Liberty Media with SiriusXM. Not just SiriusXM.

You think satellite radio is traditional media?
To Wall Street? Absolutely! Just because you rebrand (fresh coat of white wash), doesn't mean you aren't doing the same thing.
It would cost them $9 billion. You think that's a smart idea?
It's going to happen eventually. As I mentioned prior, there is zero chance they'll meet expectations of the Street this year or next.
 
Could they take the company private?
Technically? Sure. But now that they've relaunched a new stock offering, now they would need to pay shareholders $30 a share to buyback stock. They would have been better off going down that road when the share price was below $1.
 
To Wall Street? Absolutely! Just because you rebrand (fresh coat of white wash), doesn't mean you aren't doing the same thing.

It's going to happen eventually. As I mentioned prior, there is zero chance they'll meet expectations of the Street this year or next.
Is SXM making money just not what investors want or are they really in trouble financially?
 
Is SXM making money just not what investors want or are they really in trouble financially?
I get the impression they're not losing money, but because the traditional media market is depressed and their investment in podcasting and streaming hasn't netted the results they'd hoped, they're stuck in the slow lane of the future growth highway. It doesn't mean they're circling the drain, but modern shareholders want to see annual double digit growth of some form, preferably revenue. The question will be whether they effectively get pulled over for blocking traffic.
 
I get the impression they're not losing money, but because the traditional media market is depressed and their investment in podcasting and streaming hasn't netted the results they'd hoped, they're stuck in the slow lane of the future growth highway. It doesn't mean they're circling the drain, but modern shareholders want to see annual double digit growth of some form, preferably revenue. The question will be whether they effectively get pulled over for blocking traffic.
This seems to be all investors, this is why companies are so mismanaged now trying to go after every last dollar.
 
To Wall Street? Absolutely! Just because you rebrand (fresh coat of white wash), doesn't mean you aren't doing the same thing.

They're not doing an IPO. They're not chasing after new money or new investors. Here's what Motley Fool says:

Sirius XM is consistently profitable. It's also been aggressively buying back shares with its 10-figure free cash flow, something that is making per-share profitability more attractive than the actual increase in net income. The stock is trading for less than 10 times trailing earnings. It's also using its money-making prowess to pay a dividend that has grown every year since it initiated a payout policy in 2016. It's now yielding a respectable 3.7% for its patient investors.
 
They're not doing an IPO. They're not chasing after new money or new investors. Here's what Motley Fool says:
So, why on God's green earth would they "aggressively buy back stock" then reissue it? I still maintain this move is nothing more than an attempted reintroduction to SXM (SIRI) with the hope of garnering the attention of Wall Street, considering it's been a while since SXM became lost into the haystack of media.
Just a couple days since the introduction of SIRI, the stock lost 4% today, so seems like Wall Street is on to the game:
Oh, and SIRI nor SXM pays a dividend, so what good is it?
 
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