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Sirus and pre-1940s music , Canuckleheads .

J

jgbook2007

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I had read , IIRC , that Sirus's dedicated music channels , by decades , went no earlier than the 40s . I think that this is a disappointment .
While it might not be able to carry a whole channel , I think that pre-40s pop music could have some interest , perhaps as a specialty show or so...
Oh , and re: the 2nd part of my headin'...A NY Times article , a bit back , mentioned that both Sirus and XM were going to add some Canadian material , so that they would be , under the CanCon rules , " legal " up there .
One was going to add a few music stations , the other one was , essentially , going to pick up some previously-existing CBC channels...In both cases some existing channels probably would have to be dropped...What happened ?????????
No , I'm not a subscriber to either .
( Oh , and I would think that that would go for pre-40s classical , as well !!!!!!!!!!! )
( Not really " pop " pre-40s music that isn't classical , too...World stuff , or , as a reader of many of Nick Tosches' books , a chance to hear the obscure 79s/etc. he namedrops...Pow !!! Wow !!! )<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by jgbook2007 on 09/06/05 09:55 PM.</FONT></P>
 
> I had read , IIRC , that Sirus's dedicated music channels ,
> by decades , went no earlier than the 40s . I think that
> this is a disappointment .
> While it might not be able to carry a whole channel , I
> think that pre-40s pop music could have some interest ,
> perhaps as a specialty show or so...

One problem is that modern recording techniques, like magnetic tape, were not common before the 1940's. Most recordings from before then are only on old Edison cylinders, or were recorded onto metallic masters which have deteriorated over the years. And for 78's, most of them were made out of very fragile materials and generated skips and retractions quickly.

There just aren't many recordings from before World War II that still exist, and definitely not enough to support more than maybe a monthly specialty show. Nowhere near enough to support a channel.
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> > I ha




...Thank you for your response , but I do tend to disagree .
Literally speaking , there are enough pre-WWII records in existence - Remember , too , I said " probably not enough for a full channel " , anyway ! - in existence , I am sure .
For more " pop " things , the likes of Dick Powell/Ruby Keeler/Ethel Waters/Jolson/Crosby and the like would have some appeal , I'd think , as well as, say , Jimmie Rogers and the Carters...In the 60s and 70s there was a fair amount of " nostalgia " type of interest in all of the above , even in the " college dance band " stuff the likes of the New Vaudeville Band and early Nitty Gritty Dirt revived . ( Granted , a fair portion of the demo for it has died since then !!!!! )
I'll even grant that modern-style CD reissues' mastering techniques have had a tendency to mess the sound for such as this up...
You may well be right re: commercial appeal , even among those with both $/inclnation to spring for a subscription . Then again , maybe not .

d read , IIRC , that Sirus's dedicated music channels
> ,
> > by decades , went no earlier than the 40s . I think that
> > this is a disappointment .
> > While it might not be able to carry a whole channel , I
> > think that pre-40s pop music could have some interest ,
> > perhaps as a specialty show or so...
>
> One problem is that modern recording techniques, like
> magnetic tape, were not common before the 1940's. Most
> recordings from before then are only on old Edison
> cylinders, or were recorded onto metallic masters which have
> deteriorated over the years. And for 78's, most of them
> were made out of very fragile materials and generated skips
> and retractions quickly.
>
> There just aren't many recordings from before World War II
> that still exist, and definitely not enough to support more
> than maybe a monthly specialty show. Nowhere near enough to
> support a channel.
>
 
Swing Street is probably the oldest they go on music. I believe most of that music is from the 1940s and 50s.

I was curious to hear what music before that era sounded like...but it's nearly impossible to find.


> > > I ha
>
>
>
>
> ...Thank you for your response , but I do tend to disagree .
>
> Literally speaking , there are enough pre-WWII records in
> existence - Remember , too , I said " probably not enough
> for a full channel " , anyway ! - in existence , I am sure .
>
> For more " pop " things , the likes of Dick Powell/Ruby
> Keeler/Ethel Waters/Jolson/Crosby and the like would have
> some appeal , I'd think , as well as, say , Jimmie Rogers
> and the Carters...In the 60s and 70s there was a fair amount
> of " nostalgia " type of interest in all of the above , even
> in the " college dance band " stuff the likes of the New
> Vaudeville Band and early Nitty Gritty Dirt revived . (
> Granted , a fair portion of the demo for it has died since
> then !!!!! )
> I'll even grant that modern-style CD reissues' mastering
> techniques have had a tendency to mess the sound for such as
> this up...
> You may well be right re: commercial appeal , even among
> those with both $/inclnation to spring for a subscription .
> Then again , maybe not .
>
> d read , IIRC , that Sirus's dedicated music channels
> > ,
> > > by decades , went no earlier than the 40s . I think that
>
> > > this is a disappointment .
> > > While it might not be able to carry a whole channel ,
> I
> > > think that pre-40s pop music could have some interest ,
> > > perhaps as a specialty show or so...
> >
> > One problem is that modern recording techniques, like
> > magnetic tape, were not common before the 1940's. Most
> > recordings from before then are only on old Edison
> > cylinders, or were recorded onto metallic masters which
> have
> > deteriorated over the years. And for 78's, most of them
> > were made out of very fragile materials and generated
> skips
> > and retractions quickly.
> >
> > There just aren't many recordings from before World War II
>
> > that still exist, and definitely not enough to support
> more
> > than maybe a monthly specialty show. Nowhere near enough
> to
> > support a channel.
> >
>
 
Check out this site if you'd like to hear music from the early 20th century:

http://www.dismuke.org/


> Swing Street is probably the oldest they go on music. I
> believe most of that music is from the 1940s and 50s.
>
> I was curious to hear what music before that era sounded
> like...but it's nearly impossible to find.
>


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Thanks!! i was looking for something like this..

> Check out this site if you'd like to hear music from the
> early 20th century:
>
> http://www.dismuke.org/
>
>
> > Swing Street is probably the oldest they go on music. I
> > believe most of that music is from the 1940s and 50s.
> >
> > I was curious to hear what music before that era sounded
> > like...but it's nearly impossible to find.
> >
>
 
> Swing Street is probably the oldest they go on music. I
> believe most of that music is from the 1940s and 50s.
>

Too bad Swing Street got lost in the 9/29 reshuffle. I bitched to them...perhaps if enough folks miss that channel it might get added back as bandwidth permits and tastes enable.

Richard / Allentown, PA
 
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