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Site for a station that doesn't exist on your radio (WMEX 1510)

raccoonradio

raccoonradio

WMEX 1510 is currently silent. If and when they return, they will probably get new call letters UNLESS new owner Ed Perry manages to get permission to use WMEX from the station that currently has had them for the longest time--WMEX-LP 105.9 in Rochester, NH

But...WMEX 1510 lives even if it's not on your radio dial.
http://1510wmex.com/
That's the site for the Renegade Radio guys. Yes they're still on, doing podcasts though maybe they're on a 15 watt station in Fresno or something. They tell listeners on facebook to use the WMEX app or go to their site. They have Boston phone numbers and an email address that says RenegadeRadio1510. They only thing they don't have is a signal at 1510!

Now, what if Perry brings back 1510 and DOES get permission to use the calls? You never know...maybe he won't bother asking permission and just grab
some different calls. Those who go to 1510wmex dot com, at least while the domain registration is active, will get the Renegade guys instead.

WMEX AM: Has been used on 1510 in Boston, 1060 here (talk), 1150 here (oldies), then 1510 again (talk). Now silent and 1510 is owned by Perry who needs to find a way to get them back on...and supposedly the orig deadline of June 30 got pushed back to give him more time...?

WMEX-FM: Has shown up on 102.9 in Westport NY, up on Lake Champlain; also wound up on 106.9 in Farmington NH but that is now religious WNHI

WMEX-LP: The good guys! Woo woo! Well, kinda
http://www.wmexradio.com/
"Turn your transistor radio to 105.9 FM or crank it up while you're out cruising Main Street in your groovy set of wheels, “WIMMEX” is there for you and all your friends!"

A listener on a facebook group posted: "Appartently i hear WMEX on 105.9FM.. so its not WMEX 1510am.. and its from NH.. listened a bit last night. heard a minor clip of arnie woo woo ginsberg, doing station I.D. It was enthralling..:

We mentioned what the deal was.
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When he announced he was buying the station ("...but not the call letters..."), Perry said he was excited and remembered them fondly growing up.

>>"Anyway, I'm excited about the prospect of helping to revive the station I grew up with and truly loved as a kid in Natick. Should be fun and I'm sure there's a lot of air talent around to fill the frequency with great music and memorable words. As they say..."Stay tuned" !!""'

He also said he wanted it to be news and sports focusing on the South Shore. The mention of music in the quote above makes me think yeah, they could do some oldies nights or weekends or who knows what. He wants to revive WMEX, but does he want the call letters back? It could be done (the previous owners did get permission)

Otherwise, yes it's a station on 1510 but it wouldn't be WMEX Boston, it could be something like "WEDP Norwell" or something (may well have to change COL and power)...BUT hey, 1510.
 
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raccoonradio said:
WMEX 1510 is currently silent. If and when they return, they will probably get new call letters UNLESS new owner Ed Perry manages to get permission to use WMEX from the station that currently has had them for the longest time--WMEX-LP 105.9 in Rochester, NH
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WMEX-LP is programmed and (at least in part) owned by Gary James, a former program director of WMEX, Boston in its 1150 AM Oldies incarnation in the mid-'80s, and I believe he and Ed are acquainted or at least know of each other, so he may be willing to permit Ed to use the letters if he desires to apply for them.

It was Gary (and crew) who brought the WMEX oldies format to NH on 106.9 FM first, before they got an offer they couldn't refuse from a religious network for that facility. Then, they started up WMEX-LPFM.

raccoonradio said:
WMEX-FM: Has shown up on 102.9 in Westport NY, up on Lake Champlain; also wound up on 106.9 in Farmington NH but that is now religious WNHI
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WMEX-FM was also very briefly (for about a week) on 88.7 from Martha's Vineyard when it came on the air a few years ago, as the new home for the on-air programming of Martha's Vineyard AAA station WMVY.

Broadcaster Dennis Jackson, who owned WMEX-FM in its Westport, NY incarnation, owns stations in CT, and has been involved with Gary in the NH oldies incarnations of WMEX, wanted to put WMEX-FM on the air as a non-comm Adult Standards station on Martha's Vineyard during the period when the call letters were not in use in NH after the sale of 106.9 before they were on put on 105.9 (LP), but when WMVY was looking for a new non-commercial home for their on-air AAA programming, Jackson sold it to the new non-profit Friends of MVYradio group. It still had the WMEX-FM call letters from Jackson's license for about a week, then it was very briefly WMVI for another week or two until they secured their original callsign WMVY again.

WMVY came out much better off than they were before with a more powerful signal on 88.7 than 92.7, and on much better footing as a self-owned non-comm rather than a commercial station owned by an outside company.

raccoonradio said:
When he announced he was buying the station ("...but not the call letters..."), Perry said he was excited and remembered them fondly growing up.

>>"Anyway, I'm excited about the prospect of helping to revive the station I grew up with and truly loved as a kid in Natick. Should be fun and I'm sure there's a lot of air talent around to fill the frequency with great music and memorable words. As they say..."Stay tuned" !!""'

He also said he wanted it to be news and sports focusing on the South Shore. The mention of music in the quote above makes me think yeah, they could do some oldies nights or weekends or who knows what. He wants to revive WMEX, but does he want the call letters back? It could be done (the previous owners did get permission)

Otherwise, yes it's a station on 1510 but it wouldn't be WMEX Boston, it could be something like "WEDP Norwell" or something (may well have to change COL and power)...BUT hey, 1510.
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I'm guessing that Ed wouldn't want to bear the high expense of building and running a 50 kW AM, so I'd think it will most likely be lower in power, a South Shore station that may not cover all of the City of Boston well enough to use it as a COL. It remains to be seen how well it will reach Boston proper and the immediate metro. If he builds a coastal transmitter site, that may help it in Boston proper and the shores over the water.
 
Eli Polonsky said:
so I'd think it will most likely be lower in power, a South Shore station that may not cover all of the City of Boston well enough to use it as a COL. It remains to be seen how well it will reach Boston proper and the immediate metro. If he builds a coastal transmitter site, that may help it in Boston proper and the shores over the water.
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How much power do you think he'd have to push to make it reliably listenable in Boston proper?
 
Wimmmex said:
How much power do you think he'd have to push to make it reliably listenable in Boston proper?
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If he gets a coastal transmitter location, 5000 watts should come in fairly well in Boston proper and the Shores (North Shore across the water). It would not go inland to the west suburbs very well. 1000 watts from the coast would probably be listenable in Boston and the North Shore but spotty/fadey in places.

The original WMEX was 5000 watts from Quincy (50,000 by day only after 1969). If Ed can put 5000 watts on 1510 (though it would likely have to be directional nulling to the west and southwest at night), it should behave a lot like the original WMEX at 5000 watts that boomed into Boston proper, the North Shore across the water, and up the immediate coast of NH and Maine to eastern Canada, but did a quick fadeout to the west before reaching Route 128 (especially at night). He may have to go from somewhere farther down the South Shore than Quincy though, that would diminish it a bit.

If Ed can go 5000 watts from a coastal site, think of the signal of the original WMEX at 5000 watts (or the similar current signal of WBIX 1260), but diminished a bit if the transmitter is farther down the South Shore than Quincy. If he goes with 1000 watts from a coastal site, think of the current daytime signal of 1300 WJDA, but again diminished somewhat if from farther down the coast than Quincy.

If Ed goes with an inland Metro-South transmitter site such as around the Brockton area, 5000 watts would cover the South Shore and Metro-South suburbs well, maybe fairly good in the Boston south neighborhoods such as Hyde Park, but weak/spotty in Boston proper without the nearby salt water water to carry it, and weak in the west and north suburbs. Think of the daytime signal of the old WBET.

1000 watts from the inland Metro-South would be faint to non-existent in Boston proper.

Anyone who remembers the original WMEX also remembers that signal took a pounding at night from powerful first-adjacent skywaves on 1500 from Wash. DC and 1520 from Buffalo NY, especially in the suburbs west of Boston. That situation is still the same.
 
raccoonradio said:
WMEX 1510 is currently silent. If and when they return, they will probably get new call letters UNLESS new owner Ed Perry manages to get permission to use WMEX from the station that currently has had them for the longest time--WMEX-LP 105.9 in Rochester, NH

But...WMEX 1510 lives even if it's not on your radio dial.
http://1510wmex.com/
That's the site for the Renegade Radio guys. Yes they're still on, doing podcasts though maybe they're on a 15 watt station in Fresno or something. They tell listeners on facebook to use the WMEX app or go to their site. They have Boston phone numbers and an email address that says RenegadeRadio1510. They only thing they don't have is a signal at 1510!

Now, what if Perry brings back 1510 and DOES get permission to use the calls? You never know...maybe he won't bother asking permission and just grab
some different calls. Those who go to 1510wmex dot com, at least while the domain registration is active, will get the Renegade guys instead.

WMEX AM: Has been used on 1510 in Boston, 1060 here (talk), 1150 here (oldies), then 1510 again (talk). Now silent and 1510 is owned by Perry who needs to find a way to get them back on...and supposedly the orig deadline of June 30 got pushed back to give him more time...?

WMEX-FM: Has shown up on 102.9 in Westport NY, up on Lake Champlain; also wound up on 106.9 in Farmington NH but that is now religious WNHI

WMEX-LP: The good guys! Woo woo! Well, kinda
http://www.wmexradio.com/
"Turn your transistor radio to 105.9 FM or crank it up while you're out cruising Main Street in your groovy set of wheels, “WIMMEX” is there for you and all your friends!"

A listener on a facebook group posted: "Appartently i hear WMEX on 105.9FM.. so its not WMEX 1510am.. and its from NH.. listened a bit last night. heard a minor clip of arnie woo woo ginsberg, doing station I.D. It was enthralling..:

We mentioned what the deal was.
-----
When he announced he was buying the station ("...but not the call letters..."), Perry said he was excited and remembered them fondly growing up.

>>"Anyway, I'm excited about the prospect of helping to revive the station I grew up with and truly loved as a kid in Natick. Should be fun and I'm sure there's a lot of air talent around to fill the frequency with great music and memorable words. As they say..."Stay tuned" !!""'

He also said he wanted it to be news and sports focusing on the South Shore. The mention of music in the quote above makes me think yeah, they could do some oldies nights or weekends or who knows what. He wants to revive WMEX, but does he want the call letters back? It could be done (the previous owners did get permission)

Otherwise, yes it's a station on 1510 but it wouldn't be WMEX Boston, it could be something like "WEDP Norwell" or something (may well have to change COL and power)...BUT hey, 1510.
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I'll have to check out their "podcast" this morning (Tue.) I'm sure they'll have some choice line concerning the hatchet face McPhee since Pica used to "date" that.
Yechhhhhh! :)

McPhee was on ID channel last night "Vanity Fair Confidential"
 
Eli Polonsky said:
If he gets a coastal transmitter location, 5000 watts should come in fairly well in Boston proper and the Shores (North Shore across the water). It would not go inland to the west suburbs very well. 1000 watts from the coast would probably be listenable in Boston and the North Shore but spotty/fadey in places.

The original WMEX was 5000 watts from Quincy (50,000 by day only after 1969). If Ed can put 5000 watts on 1510 (though it would likely have to be directional nulling to the west and southwest at night), it should behave a lot like the original WMEX at 5000 watts that boomed into Boston proper, the North Shore across the water, and up the immediate coast of NH and Maine to eastern Canada, but did a quick fadeout to the west before reaching Route 128 (especially at night). He may have to go from somewhere farther down the South Shore than Quincy though, that would diminish it a bit.

If Ed can go 5000 watts from a coastal site, think of the signal of the original WMEX at 5000 watts (or the similar current signal of WBIX 1260), but diminished a bit if the transmitter is farther down the South Shore than Quincy. If he goes with 1000 watts from a coastal site, think of the current daytime signal of 1300 WJDA, but again diminished somewhat if from farther down the coast than Quincy.

If Ed goes with an inland Metro-South transmitter site such as around the Brockton area, 5000 watts would cover the South Shore and Metro-South suburbs well, maybe fairly good in the Boston south neighborhoods such as Hyde Park, but weak/spotty in Boston proper without the nearby salt water water to carry it, and weak in the west and north suburbs. Think of the daytime signal of the old WBET.

1000 watts from the inland Metro-South would be faint to non-existent in Boston proper.

Anyone who remembers the original WMEX also remembers that signal took a pounding at night from powerful first-adjacent skywaves on 1500 from Wash. DC and 1520 from Buffalo NY, especially in the suburbs west of Boston. That situation is still the same.
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Eli,

I am voting your post above the most informative and substantive of all on this thread. Well done, sir.
 
Wimmmex said:
What are the two 1510's that he has to protect?

WLAC(?)...and what else?

Thanks Eli!
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They have to protect 1500 in Washington, DC, and 1520 in Buffalo.
 
TheBigA said:
Quite a few:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1510_AM
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There aren't many stations on that list that concern WMEX, Boston because most of the stations on 1510 east of the Mississippi are either daytime only (too far away from Boston to be a concern in the daytime), or lower their wattage to low power at night just covering their immediate area, in both cases, I'd think mainly to protect WLAC.

I've read elsewhere that WMEX may have to protect a Canadian allocation for 1510 in Sherbrooke, Quebec at night. Though there may not be a station currently on the air there on the frequency, the allocation may still have to be protected under international law.
 
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