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Skip should...skip?

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jeffco

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I'm getting really tired of Skip Carey and his son is horrendously awful at what he does.

But it is Skip that I come to flame right now.

His baseball broadcasting skills seem to be decaying right before our/my very eyes.

On radio his calls are typically several seconds behind the action on the field.

I think Skip should just skip out and retire.

Just my ten cents worth on the issue.
 
Do you know how long Skip has been a part of the Braves broadcast crew? He and Pete have been there since 1980 and are staples in Atlanta Braves baseball. The fact that Chip Caray is now on the team is an added bonus. I don't know what it is you don't like about Chip, but he's an outstanding broadcaster and trust me, he ain't going anywhere.

Oh and by the way, when you do play by play, you typically ARE about 5-10 seconds behind the play. That's how you call it to make sure you stay accurate and don't have to flip flop information a lot. Been there, done that.

Just my sofa change worth.

MC
 
> Do you know how long Skip has been a part of the Braves
> broadcast crew? He and Pete have been there since 1980 and
> are staples in Atlanta Braves baseball. The fact that Chip
> Caray is now on the team is an added bonus. I don't know
> what it is you don't like about Chip, but he's an
> outstanding broadcaster and trust me, he ain't going
> anywhere.
>
> Oh and by the way, when you do play by play, you typically
> ARE about 5-10 seconds behind the play. That's how you call
> it to make sure you stay accurate and don't have to flip
> flop information a lot. Been there, done that.
>
> Just my sofa change worth.
>
> MC
>

What MC said... and ... My favorite team is Skip and Don. They make me laugh harder than most of the morning shows in town.
 
Skip, and Don are my favorites as well. Good chemistry. Don't really have a problem with Chip, but I do know a lot of people who do. Not sure why.

There are some times however I think Skip forgets to regulate his bourbon intake. Didn't he learn any thing from the whole Steve Howe thing??
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> > Do you know how long Skip has been a part of the Braves
> > broadcast crew? He and Pete have been there since 1980 and

Simply because someone has been on the broadcasting team forever doesn't make them immune from being critiqued. There are plenty of people in corporate America who have been in the same job for 30 years and they're deadwood.
I've never been much of a fan of Skip's. For starters, he has the most annoying broadcast voice on the air, behind Scott Ferrall. Next, his disdain for the listeners was always evident when he did the pre-game show. I was so glad when they FINALLY took him off of it. It was obvious that he viewed the callers and the show as an intrusion on his time.
Regardless of your job, at some point you get stale and the job becomes old. I think Skip did an admirable job for quite a few years, but maybe it's time to retire?
Personally, Joe and Don are my favorites. Their energy level and spontaneity are always up.
 
> Oh and by the way, when you do play by play, you typically> ARE about 5-10 seconds behind the play. That's how you call> it to make sure you stay accurate and don't have to flip> flop information a lot. Been there, done that.

I don't know where you got this thing about being 5-10 seconds behind a play. I have been a play-by-play announcer for 23 years...and that is simply not true. You call the play as it happens....and you can tell when somebody is doing this by the crowd reaction. The crowd reaction for example on a homerun is at its climax after the ball clears the fence...a good play-by-play man will conclude his homerun call with the ball going over and then pause as the crowd noise rises to a higher level....When I do a game..for example ...basketball...I call the shot good..a split second before the crowd cheers it was good.

The Braves best announcer, techinically speaking, is Pete Van Wieren. His phrasing is impecable. He phrases the more difficult plays to call in baseball very clearly and concisely. For example... a wild pitch with a close play at the plate, a run down between third and home with a runner trying to advance from first and second. Anybody can call a homer, a grounder, a popup...Pete has been at it so long he handles the difficult plays as well as anybody in the business.

My favorite Braves announcer is Don Sutton. His style is unique..probably because he didn't grow up wanting to be a play-by-play man so he didn't borrow from other announcers. Don mixes play-by-play and color into his calls. So while he is calling a play ..he is also analyzing it at the same time...

Skip Carey....to me...is a reptitive announcer. A typical call...the stretch and the pitch...the stretch and the pitch......the delivery. My theory on Skip is...people get tired of listening to him for just this reason. I had a coach tell me just last night..that Skip doesn't give the score enough...I am not sure if he is correct on this point...so I am going to listen to see if he is right.With Skip, I think you either love him for being edgy or you dislike him for the same reason.

Chip Carey...to me Chip is a better radio announcer than a TV one. On TV he says the obvious things..while radio allows him to exhibit his play-by-play skills which are better than his Dad's.

Joe Simpson....Joe is a serviceable announcer...his play-by-play has improved vastly over the years and his anaylst work is fine.

I think the new 5 man rotation works well...The rotations change often...so there are alot of different combinations...My favorite...Pete and Don...least favorite the two Careys. And I also like the fact that they don't change announcing teams after 4 1/2 inings on TV and radio.
 
Admittedly, I do have some bias since I grew up listening to Skip and Pete, and I've always enjoyed listening to them. I will say though, when Skip did the pre-game call in show, I found that immensely hard to listen to because he was so abrasive towards callers.

As for Skip retiring, I've gotten the impression that this is one of the reasons that Chip was brought in. Over the past few years, we've seen more and more cases of Skip being off the broadcasts for extended periods of time for health reasons, and perhaps he's ready to hang it up and simply enjoy watching the baseball.

MC
 
As a Cub fan I hated losing Chip Carey. There were times that he did embody his illustrious grandfather's persona. Chip did broadcast a few games in the bleachers, he criticized the team when they were playing poorly, he mentioned the restaurants where he ate the night before, he talked about UGA football during Cub games and he did seem to be a Cub Fan. He left Chicago to spend more time with his father, whom he has acknowledged that he didn't have a great relationship with as a youngster. For that he gets a free pass.

As for Skip, he's cantankerous, he’s a curmudgeon, he's old school and he should be treasured. If he's unhappy, he lets the listeners know it. Listen to any other broadcasters and they sound upbeat about losing 16-2 in the 6th. At least Skip is angry and isn't stupid in thinking that the Braves might make a comeback.


> I'm getting really tired of Skip Carey and his son is
> horrendously awful at what he does.
>
> But it is Skip that I come to flame right now.
>
> His baseball broadcasting skills seem to be decaying right
> before our/my very eyes.
>
> On radio his calls are typically several seconds behind the
> action on the field.
>
> I think Skip should just skip out and retire.
>
> Just my ten cents worth on the issue.
> <P ID="signature">______________
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> As for Skip, he's cantankerous, he’s a curmudgeon, he's old
> school and he should be treasured. If he's unhappy, he lets
> the listeners know it. Listen to any other broadcasters and
> they sound upbeat about losing 16-2 in the 6th. At least
> Skip is angry and isn't stupid in thinking that the Braves
> might make a comeback.

That's why I still dig Skip. He's truly a Braves fan, not just a generic announcer.<P ID="signature">______________
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> I hope Skip stays with the Braves as long as he wants. I've been listening to him ever since he came to Atlanta.. I worked at a station carrying the Braves when they first came to Atlanta. I was on the board through many broadcasts and listened to a lot of baseball. It was Milo, Ernie and Larry Munson at one time. But, Skip has his own style and his own sense of humor. You just have to appreciate him. Everybody has a different way of doing things.
What ticks me off is the announcers who yack so much about how things should be done....and analyze every move and forget to call the game.
I'll stick with Skip.
 
Exactly. Pete is very good, but Skip is THE "voice of the Braves" in my opinion. It won't be the same watching or listening to a Braves game once he decides to call it a career.
 
> > I hope Skip stays with the Braves as long as he wants.
> I've been listening to him ever since he came to Atlanta..
> I worked at a station carrying the Braves when they first
> came to Atlanta. I was on the board through many broadcasts
> and listened to a lot of baseball. It was Milo, Ernie and
> Larry Munson at one time. But, Skip has his own style and
> his own sense of humor. You just have to appreciate him.
> Everybody has a different way of doing things.
> What ticks me off is the announcers who yack so much about
> how things should be done....and analyze every move and
> forget to call the game.
> I'll stick with Skip.
>
I hope Skip retires soon. Not just because he constantly blasts New York (yes I am a Mets fan), but he has gotten stale,crotchety, not entertaining at all. And I can be objective- I have been watching Skip since the early 80's- watched many a Braves game. He was good back then. Not any more. I think of Mets' announcer Ralph Kiner. He's been with the Mets since the beginning in 1962. He was a very good announcer, but in the early 90's, he started going downhill. Almost like Caray right now. To the Mets' credit, they greatly reduced Kiner's role, making him do more color in a 3 man booth. He doesn't do many games nowadays, but he'll be there for a few series during the season.

If the Braves don't reduce his role as an announcer, it might be time for him to go.<P ID="signature">______________
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I think of Mets' announcer Ralph Kiner. He's been with
> the Mets since the beginning in 1962.

Best baseball announcer I've ever heard. I remember Mets games on the radio as little tyke in Pa. Listening to Mr. Kiner's calls while playing catch with my brother in the front yard on a warm summer Saturday afternoon. The other one I liked was Bob Prince calling games for the Pirates.
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> I think of Mets' announcer Ralph Kiner. He's been with
> > the Mets since the beginning in 1962.
>
> Best baseball announcer I've ever heard. I remember Mets
> games on the radio as little tyke in Pa. Listening to Mr.
> Kiner's calls while playing catch with my brother in the
> front yard on a warm summer Saturday afternoon. The other
> one I liked was Bob Prince calling games for the Pirates.
>
Comparing Skip to Ralph Kiner now is going too far. After all, Ralph is 82 years old. Plus, they were entirely different kinds of announcers (Ralph, as a former player, was a lot more like Don Sutton, I think).

Skip and Joe still do the deadpan comedy routines pretty well, and Skip is excellent at actually calling the games. I admit the pregame show was painful, but that's in the past. My favorite combo is actually Pete & Don, but a little Skip & Joe now and then is a nice change. As for Chip... I guess I have to get used to him.

By the way, I'm a New Yorker from the 1970s; Lindsey Nelson was easily the best of the three for play-by-play, Ralph for color.
 
> > > I hope Skip stays with the Braves as long as he wants.
> > I've been listening to him ever since he came to Atlanta..
>
> > I worked at a station carrying the Braves when they first
>
> > came to Atlanta. I was on the board through many
> broadcasts
> > and listened to a lot of baseball. It was Milo, Ernie and
>
> > Larry Munson at one time. But, Skip has his own style and
>
> > his own sense of humor. You just have to appreciate him.
>
> > Everybody has a different way of doing things.
> > What ticks me off is the announcers who yack so much
> about
> > how things should be done....and analyze every move and
> > forget to call the game.
> > I'll stick with Skip.
> >
> I hope Skip retires soon. Not just because he constantly
> blasts New York (yes I am a Mets fan), but he has gotten
> stale,crotchety, not entertaining at all. And I can be
> objective- I have been watching Skip since the early 80's-
> watched many a Braves game. He was good back then. Not any
> more. I think of Mets' announcer Ralph Kiner. He's been with
> the Mets since the beginning in 1962. He was a very good
> announcer, but in the early 90's, he started going downhill.
> Almost like Caray right now. To the Mets' credit, they
> greatly reduced Kiner's role, making him do more color in a
> 3 man booth. He doesn't do many games nowadays, but he'll be
> there for a few series during the season.
>
> If the Braves don't reduce his role as an announcer, it
> might be time for him to go.
>

So one reason you hopes he retires is because he blasts your beloved New York? I guess if he blasted Milwaukee it would be ok but New York, no can't do that aye! I for one like Skip, and I don't mind his homerism, I love his banter and tune in hoping he does games. I hope he keeps going for as long as he can do it!
 
I love listening to Skip Caray on radio and TV. His mood is just a part of his personality. He doesn't try to be anything he isn't. And he tells it like it is - he isn't afraid to criticize Major League Baseball or the scripted promos they make him read. And he's always doing something hilarious on the air like playing music from his cell phone or making up a movie review contest.

Pete is the most professional broadcaster and is truly knowledgeable about the game. He knows what he's talking about - he does the research. Joe comes across on the air as a very nice guy, a good compliment to Skip Caray. Don also provides good insight on the game. Chip is OK, and I'm getting used to him, though I agree he is better on radio because he is so chatty.
 
> So one reason you hopes he retires is because he blasts your
> beloved New York? I guess if he blasted Milwaukee it would
> be ok but New York, no can't do that aye! I for one like
> Skip, and I don't mind his homerism, I love his banter and
> tune in hoping he does games. I hope he keeps going for as
> long as he can do it!
>
He could blast Tampa Bay. I just think he should retire. And there was a perfect example tonight. For someone who has been traveling as long as he has, you'd think he'd know where the hell he was? He said that they were by "Flushing Canal" (okay, I'll go easy there- it's Flushing Bay), but when he said he was in "The Bronx" when the Mets play in Queens, that was just outright DUMB! You've been traveling there for 30+ years, and don't know where the hell you are? And the same standard goes for Kiner in my previous post. He started losing it, so the Mets cut him back.
Skip- either cut back or get lost! I think the other guys do a fine job- especially Sutton. So, I am NOT the biased Mets fan as you would think! I do appeciate great announcers- from Harwell, to Harry Caray, to even Pete Van Wieren. I think he is one of the best in the field, and just love listening to him call a game. And he can be a "homer". I have no problem with that. He just knows his facts. He can continue- so long as he doesn't get like Skip!<P ID="signature">______________
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> Comparing Skip to Ralph Kiner now is going too far. After
> all, Ralph is 82 years old. Plus, they were entirely
> different kinds of announcers (Ralph, as a former player,
> was a lot more like Don Sutton, I think).
Yeah, but the scary thing is that Skip is making mistakes that the 82 year ol Kiner is making. Not good.

> Skip and Joe still do the deadpan comedy routines pretty
> well, and Skip is excellent at actually calling the games.
> I admit the pregame show was painful, but that's in the
> past. My favorite combo is actually Pete & Don, but a
> little Skip & Joe now and then is a nice change. As for
> Chip... I guess I have to get used to him.

I agree about the Pete & Don combo. I tink Joe adds a lot to the call. When he gets on a roll, I think it's hysterical.

> By the way, I'm a New Yorker from the 1970s; Lindsey Nelson
> was easily the best of the three for play-by-play, Ralph for
> color.
Lindsey was great, but I will lways treasure the man with the "happy recap", Bob Murphy. He was, to me, the best of the three.
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