Well, that goes against traditional thinking, doesn't it? You used to play music there, in order to get credit for two quarter hours.(I just realized that's the very point you just responded to.)
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Well, that goes against traditional thinking, doesn't it? You used to play music there, in order to get credit for two quarter hours.(I just realized that's the very point you just responded to.)
PPM only requires 5 discreet minutes (three in some cases) being detected in a quarter hour for credit. Those can be at any point in the quarter hour, and don't have to be sequential.
The diary required 5 sequential minutes for credit.
So in the PPM, straddle the quarter hours... since someone who comes in at 8:12 can't give you enough credit to win the quarter hour, those are "wasted minutes".
>>A radio station operating in DAB hybrid mode or extended hybrid mode
shall identify its digital signal, including any free multicast audio
programming streams, in a manner that appropriately alerts its audience
to the fact that it is listening to a digital audio broadcast
Not totally sure about this but I think WRKO 680 Boston IDs as "WRKO Boston and WEEI-HD2 Lawrence Boston"
Technically they are on the HD2 of WEEI-FM 93.7 Lawrence MA. "WEEI" on the AM dial, 850, is licensed to Boston.
They do not broadcast in HD (AMs can't have an HD2 anyway, right?). In which case I wonder if maybe the ID should say "WRKO Boston and WEEI-FM HD2 Lawrence-Boston..."
shall identify its digital signal, including any free multicast audio
programming streams, in a manner that appropriately alerts its audience
to the fact that it is listening to a digital audio broadcast
Not totally sure about this but I think WRKO 680 Boston IDs as "WRKO Boston and WEEI-HD2 Lawrence Boston"
Technically they are on the HD2 of WEEI-FM 93.7 Lawrence MA. "WEEI" on the AM dial, 850, is licensed to Boston.
They do not broadcast in HD (AMs can't have an HD2 anyway, right?). In which case I wonder if maybe the ID should say "WRKO Boston and WEEI-FM HD2 Lawrence-Boston..."
Now it sounds like they ID the HD2 simulcast as
"93.7 HD2 Lawrence-Boston".Not sure of rule
about ID-ing an HD subchannel.
"93.7 HD2 Lawrence-Boston".Not sure of rule
about ID-ing an HD subchannel.
WPOP does it as "WPOP Hartford and WUCS HD2
digital".No COL needed on latter?(It's Windsor
Locks CT )
digital".No COL needed on latter?(It's Windsor
Locks CT )
BOMBA - The Spanish Station in Springfield, Massachusetts is not IDing properly.
They're IDing as WSPR 1270 AM Springfield. Bomba Doce Sententa. The problem? BOMBA moved to 1490 AM West Springfield and a translator on April 1st. The WSPR calls moved over about a week or so later.
Their Classic Hits sister station in Connecticut IDs as follows "KOOL Oldies is WNTY and W241CG Southington. KOOL 990 And 96.1 FM."
They're IDing as WSPR 1270 AM Springfield. Bomba Doce Sententa. The problem? BOMBA moved to 1490 AM West Springfield and a translator on April 1st. The WSPR calls moved over about a week or so later.
Their Classic Hits sister station in Connecticut IDs as follows "KOOL Oldies is WNTY and W241CG Southington. KOOL 990 And 96.1 FM."
It's not just Kool Radio coming into question!
A certain Hartford station with a Bloomfield studio does every other hourly ID wrong. The TOH ID just now said "WDRC, WDRC-FM HD1 Hartford...from the (local business sponsor) Studios. 102.9-The Whale. Hartford's Classic Rock!" Shouldn't he be saying "-FM" with both? One other ID he reads is missing the "-FM" completely. At least their ID for The Talk Of Connecticut is correct. WDRC-AM 1360 of Hartford is simulcasted on WDRC-FM 102.9 HD3. Both get mentioned, followed by their other AM stations in Waterbury, Torrington and Meriden.
It's touch-and-go with WTIC-FM 96.5 HD2 of Hartford. That's a simulcast of WTIC-AM 1080. Sometimes they'll insert "WTIC-FM HD2 Hartford. A simulcast of WTIC News Talk 1080."
A certain Hartford station with a Bloomfield studio does every other hourly ID wrong. The TOH ID just now said "WDRC, WDRC-FM HD1 Hartford...from the (local business sponsor) Studios. 102.9-The Whale. Hartford's Classic Rock!" Shouldn't he be saying "-FM" with both? One other ID he reads is missing the "-FM" completely. At least their ID for The Talk Of Connecticut is correct. WDRC-AM 1360 of Hartford is simulcasted on WDRC-FM 102.9 HD3. Both get mentioned, followed by their other AM stations in Waterbury, Torrington and Meriden.
It's touch-and-go with WTIC-FM 96.5 HD2 of Hartford. That's a simulcast of WTIC-AM 1080. Sometimes they'll insert "WTIC-FM HD2 Hartford. A simulcast of WTIC News Talk 1080."
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purpledevil
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Pfft... that's nothing. We've got a recently purchased station by Aleluya Broadcasting Network that IDs its sister station instead. "Usted escucha KMIC Houston, quince noventa ah eme, Radio Aleluya". No ID of "KCOH Houston" anywhere. Then you have their sister stations, which ID everything in their arsenal, minus the two aforementioned. The problem with the ID on those, is that Aleluya IDs K236AR Missouri City, which doesn't simulcast the Aleluya programming at all. They lease it along with KBRZ Missouri City to a South Asian outfit.
Then there's CBS Radio. "Mega ciento uno es KLOL y KLOL HD1 Houston". Now, that's OK, but the HD2 is "KMVK, KMVK HD1 Fort Worth/Dallas". Uh, since "La Grande" simulcasts down to Houston on 101's HD2, shouldn't the legal be "KMVK, KMVK HD1 Fort Worth, KLOL HD2 Houston"?
It gets better with CBS Radio in Houston. 650 KIKK Pasadena's is "KIKK, KKHH HD3, Pasadena/Houston". Should be "KIKK Pasadena, KKHH HD3 Houston". 610 KILT Houston's is "KILT, KILT HD3 Houston". Should be "KILT Houston, KILT-FM HD3 Houston".
Then there's iHeart, who doesn't even attempt a legal ID. 94-5 KTBZ-FM's is "From the *insert sponsor here* studios, KTBZ is Houston's new rock alternative, 94-5 The Buzz". KTBZ is 1430 AM in Tulsa, Oklahoma. No mention of the FM or HD suffix on 94-5. 740 KTRH is "Newsradio 740 KTRH, Houston's news, weather, and traffic station". No mention of KQBT HD3 Houston? Same for 790 KBME. "From the *insert sponsor* studios of iHeart Media, KBME Houston, your home for the hometown Houston Rockets & Astros, Sportstalk 790". No mention of KQBT HD2 Houston. It's gotten rather lackadaisical down here, but no one seems to be bothered by it, but us nerd types.
Then there's CBS Radio. "Mega ciento uno es KLOL y KLOL HD1 Houston". Now, that's OK, but the HD2 is "KMVK, KMVK HD1 Fort Worth/Dallas". Uh, since "La Grande" simulcasts down to Houston on 101's HD2, shouldn't the legal be "KMVK, KMVK HD1 Fort Worth, KLOL HD2 Houston"?
It gets better with CBS Radio in Houston. 650 KIKK Pasadena's is "KIKK, KKHH HD3, Pasadena/Houston". Should be "KIKK Pasadena, KKHH HD3 Houston". 610 KILT Houston's is "KILT, KILT HD3 Houston". Should be "KILT Houston, KILT-FM HD3 Houston".
Then there's iHeart, who doesn't even attempt a legal ID. 94-5 KTBZ-FM's is "From the *insert sponsor here* studios, KTBZ is Houston's new rock alternative, 94-5 The Buzz". KTBZ is 1430 AM in Tulsa, Oklahoma. No mention of the FM or HD suffix on 94-5. 740 KTRH is "Newsradio 740 KTRH, Houston's news, weather, and traffic station". No mention of KQBT HD3 Houston? Same for 790 KBME. "From the *insert sponsor* studios of iHeart Media, KBME Houston, your home for the hometown Houston Rockets & Astros, Sportstalk 790". No mention of KQBT HD2 Houston. It's gotten rather lackadaisical down here, but no one seems to be bothered by it, but us nerd types.
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I worked for a station 3.5+ years that IDed the station as (Call Letters) FM stereo (city of license). There was no AM and legal ID is call letters followed by city of license. Yes I know you can insert a few things but that's where most people screw it up. My point is inserting FM stereo made the ID incorrect. And it was that way 24 times a day from the day I got there through the day I left. I suggested a change but it fell on deaf ears. The sister AM had the ID right, however.
You have to keep in mind lots of stations rapid fire a legal ID inside the last commercial break of the hour.
One station took the space out between letters and increased the pitch a tad to where you could not make out the call letters or city of license. Nothing in the rules about that.
I contend the 'legal ID' is not a real big deal these days compared to years prior. I guess if the FCC wanted to not just throw the book at you but the whole bookshelf too, they might fine you for that.
I would say we might be wrong on some of the examples but I have known General Managers, Program Directors and others that had no clue what a legal ID was. I'm talking people in radio for a couple of decades or so.
You have to keep in mind lots of stations rapid fire a legal ID inside the last commercial break of the hour.
One station took the space out between letters and increased the pitch a tad to where you could not make out the call letters or city of license. Nothing in the rules about that.
I contend the 'legal ID' is not a real big deal these days compared to years prior. I guess if the FCC wanted to not just throw the book at you but the whole bookshelf too, they might fine you for that.
I would say we might be wrong on some of the examples but I have known General Managers, Program Directors and others that had no clue what a legal ID was. I'm talking people in radio for a couple of decades or so.
I believe the HD channels can just do a visual ID and that should cover it.
How would you do a visual ID on the radio?
Text information is part of the IBOC(HD Radio)system. It's similar to RBDS but able to display more and from what I've seen of RBDS, at a much faster rate.
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purpledevil
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Ha! Well done, A. I was taking a swallow of Mountain Dew as I read that, and choked on it!
I haven't heard KBKS in a set that goes more than an hour since they shifted to Hot AC, but I got it on recording when it was a CHR. At 10:00 after the morning show, they went to 90 minutes nonstop, but no legal anywhere in the music set. You didn't get the legal until you got to the break at 11:45, and even then it was early. I think the ID is typically at 47 these days, but I've heard it on time in the Hot AC format too. They always bury it in a break though. As for not identifying the HD, when it was KPTK, 1090 Seattle never mentioned audibly KJAQ-HD3. A change of calls a few years ago changed that though.
According to that nuisance known as FCC rules, only TV stations are allowed to do visual ID's.
Then someone should petition the FCC to allow radio stations to do visual IDs as well. After all, it's only fair.
"WPOP Hartford, WUCS-HD2 Windsor Locks". The word digital is superfluous.
KUOW Seattle IDs as "94.9 KUOW-FM Seattle, KUOW Tumwater, KQOW Bellingham and digital HD services"
The breakdown: KUOW-FM is the main Seattle signal, KUOW Tumwater is an AM station (1340) near Olympia which was picked up several years ago to fill in the Seattle signal challenged Olympia area, KQOW was originally a 100 watt translator that was upgraded to a fully licensed station (still 100 watts) on 90.3 in the Bellingham area. And digital HD services? That's about as vague as I ever heard a digital ID.
The breakdown: KUOW-FM is the main Seattle signal, KUOW Tumwater is an AM station (1340) near Olympia which was picked up several years ago to fill in the Seattle signal challenged Olympia area, KQOW was originally a 100 watt translator that was upgraded to a fully licensed station (still 100 watts) on 90.3 in the Bellingham area. And digital HD services? That's about as vague as I ever heard a digital ID.
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