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Sleeping Hound Waking Up at KCSN?

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ChannelFlipper

TALENTfileter said the following on another thread:

>>Regarding Triple A, I think that KCSN (the Cal State Northridge station) is about to hire a PD and tighten things up, music-wise. While the signal isn't the best, I think if they're smart, they'll fill the void.<<

Actually, I had been meaning to post on KCSN for the last few weeks. Since I am one of only about a dozen or so people who actually listen to this station, this post is mainly for the other eleven.

I have posted several times that since they have gone more or less AAA, they seemed to have taken to the coffehouse side of the format and left anything that actually resembles rock n' roll behind, with some minor exceptions. I labeled them the Sleepy Hound Dog of AAA/Rock radio.

I am happy to report that this seems to have changed over the last several times I have tuned in. I live on the outermost range of its usable signal, so I really can only listen when I travel in the Valley, and thus don't always have as much of a sample as I would like, and since they absolutely refuse to announce or back announce the records, I still don't know what most of them are. I just know lately I've had more opportunities to turn the station up instead of out. That is a good thing. So I hope this new PD doesn't come in and start ruining things just when they are starting to turn good.

I am not sure if this is just a change for KCSN or if the whole genre is going that way because I seem to have noticed a similar shift on the Spectrum on XM/Sirius. I don't listen to that station as much as I should. At least they flash the artist on song title on the screen, so if I did, I could really start getting back into AAA, which I would really like to do.

One last thing. Both KCSN and KSBR (Jazz station from Saddleback College in OC)are such good stations overall (my petty complaints on KCSN notwithstanding) it really is a shame that they have to share that 88.5 frequency such that when I am in an around downtown LA and surrounding communities, which is a lot, I can't get either of them since they are cancelling each other out). How many people live in this large area that cannot make use of either signal? Gotta be a lot.
 
TALENTfilter said:
Looks like KCSN is bringing in former R&R Editor Sky Daniels to handle PD and morning show duties.
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Daniels was also at some fine stations, like KFOG. It will be interesting to see if good programming skills can do anything with a signal that only puts a truly useful signal over about 15% of the market.
 
KCSN has no real budget and has been run for the last year or more by someone who only knows that the radio is something that came with her car. I seriously doubt that Sky will be there in a year. He will have no budget and lots of people telling him what he can't do. But good luck to him, he'll need it. KCSN will barely registers a blip on the listener meter for the over-the-air signal with most people listening on line.
 
calguy said:
KCSN has no real budget and has been run for the last year or more by someone who only knows that the radio is something that came with her car. I seriously doubt that Sky will be there in a year. He will have no budget and lots of people telling him what he can't do. But good luck to him, he'll need it. KCSN will barely registers a blip on the listener meter for the over-the-air signal with most people listening on line.
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Maybe he'll do something completely off-the-rails-crazy and announce the song titles and artists on the air?
 
ChannelFlipper said:
calguy said:
KCSN has no real budget and has been run for the last year or more by someone who only knows that the radio is something that came with her car. I seriously doubt that Sky will be there in a year. He will have no budget and lots of people telling him what he can't do. But good luck to him, he'll need it. KCSN will barely registers a blip on the listener meter for the over-the-air signal with most people listening on line.
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Maybe he'll do something completely off-the-rails-crazy and announce the song titles and artists on the air?
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Well, that will make Dan mason happy!
 
That's great for Sky, I remember him as a jock! There's actually an opportunity to DO something there.
That's if the GM doesn't continue to inflict her horrid taste.

She needs to understand that there is a bigger potential audience than the anthropology professors in the coffee lounge.
 
Buckethead said:
That's great for Sky, I remember him as a jock! There's actually an opportunity to DO something there.
That's if the GM doesn't continue to inflict her horrid taste.

She needs to understand that there is a bigger potential audience than the anthropology professors in the coffee lounge.
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Wasn't he on KLOS or KLSX in the mid 80's? I definitely remember the name and voice, but I forget which station he was on.
 
ChannelFlipper said:
Buckethead said:
That's great for Sky, I remember him as a jock! There's actually an opportunity to DO something there.
That's if the GM doesn't continue to inflict her horrid taste.

She needs to understand that there is a bigger potential audience than the anthropology professors in the coffee lounge.
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Wasn't he on KLOS or KLSX in the mid 80's? I definitely remember the name and voice, but I forget which station he was on.
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That would be KMET from 1985-to 1987. He also has worked at The Loop in Chicago, W4 in Detroit, KISW in Seattle and KFOG in SF. Nice resume' eh?
 
Look for some changes come July 1st. LOVE hearing feedback. Oh, here is the latest:

Nic Harcourt to join KCSN/Los Angeles

KCSN/Los Angeles is proud to announce that legendary music industry veteran,
Nic Harcourt, is joining the station.





Harcourt worked for KCRW/Los Angeles for 12 years, 10 as music director and host of the highly influential Morning Becomes Eclectic program. Widely regarded as an innovator in public radio, Harcourt was the first broadcaster to webcast in video live in studio sessions and the first public radio host to take the show on the road with live broadcasts from events in New York, Austin, Vancouver and London. Many artists, including Adele, Coldplay and Norah Jones, have credited Harcourt for putting them on the map and helping them achieve stardom. He's also helped launch the careers of Phoenix, Dido, My Morning Jacket, Death Cab for Cutie, Franz Ferdinand, KT Tunstall, Ting Tings, Sigur Ros, Damien, Rice, The Shins, Interpol, and countless others. He has been described by music writer Mark Weingarten as "the most influential DJ in America."





Harcourt has also been a music journalist for the Los Angeles Times, and currently holds the title of Music Supervisor in Residence for MTV as well as serving as host of the award winning Guitar Center Sessions on DirecTV's 101 and n3D channels


Karen Kearns, GM of KCSN, "Nic's status as a music tastemaker will be a
great addition to our programming."


Sky Daniels, newly appointed Program Director of KCSN added, “It is an
honor to have Nic join us as we begin a new journey as the Album Adult
Alternative station for Los Angeles. Nic defines music discovery for Los
Angeles listeners, and will bring that devotion to KCSN. His vision will be
an incredible asset to our listeners.”



Harcourt stated, " Change is good, I'm truly excited at the opportunity to work with the team at KCSN as they build a dynamic new music format for Los Angeles"

Harcourt will join KCSN as a weekend host in Mid-July, and will also
contribute daily commentary on new artists of note.
 
The format KCSN is trying to create has good intentions, there is the fairly successful "AAA" public station KCMP in Minnesota. But will this work as well in LA? Chances are the demographics and the signal strength might not get them the donations they will soon be seeking.

I personally think that Saddleback College 's KSBR should merge operations with KCSN
 
radiojomo said:
The format KCSN is trying to create has good intentions, there is the fairly successful "AAA" public station KCMP in Minnesota. But will this work as well in LA? Chances are the demographics and the signal strength might not get them the donations they will soon be seeking.

I personally think that Saddleback College 's KSBR should merge operations with KCSN
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What was the genius Harcourt's excuse on KCRW. It's a Class B with pretty good signal coverage and has under a 1.0 share.
 
Harcourt got his ass handed to him by KPCC and KUSC.

Maybe all those full page ads of his face helped his career beyond
what the actual audience was. It's more of a statement than anything else for him to do a show on KCSN.
 
Color me unenthused by the hire. To me KCRW is all about the snobby attitude of the "music elites" who look down on the little people and their rock, classic rock, pop and country. They are wayyyy too sophisticated for that. I don't listen much because while they do play a nice, (if sometimes over the-top) variety, the snobbishness that comes along with it is way too much to put up with. I'm too old to be musically lectured to.

In my view importing Harcourt more or less represents importing KCRW's unsavory attitude, as opposed to bringing in someone with love for the music both old an new that represents a modern AAA, which by definition must be somewhat hit-based to succeed (even on a public station like KCSN), and all of the other genres that KCSN plays on the weekends.

In short, bringing in Harcourt will make the LA Times and the Village Voice take notice, but I doubt it will translate to additional listeners taking notice.
 
ChannelFlipper said:
Color me unenthused by the hire. To me KCRW is all about the snobby attitude of the "music elites" who look down on the little people and their rock, classic rock, pop and country. They are wayyyy too sophisticated for that. I don't listen much because while they do play a nice, (if sometimes over the-top) variety, the snobbishness that comes along with it is way too much to put up with. I'm too old to be musically lectured to.

In my view importing Harcourt more or less represents importing KCRW's unsavory attitude, as opposed to bringing in someone with love for the music both old an new that represents a modern AAA, which by definition must be somewhat hit-based to succeed (even on a public station like KCSN), and all of the other genres that KCSN plays on the weekends.

In short, bringing in Harcourt will make the LA Times and the Village Voice take notice, but I doubt it will translate to additional listeners taking notice.
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Who's the elitist here, Flapper?
 
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