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So MANY HD Radio manufacturers!

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ElCheapo

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Accurian
ADA
Alpine
Boston Acoustics
Cambridge SoundWorks
Daewoo
Delphi
Denon
DICE
Directed
JVC
Kenwood
Metra
Niles Audio
Onkyo
Panasonic
Peripheral
Polk Audio
Radiosophy
Rotel
Russound
Sangean
Visteon

Every one of these manufacturers is now making one or more HD Radio products.

Gee... I wonder when the crowd that thinks they're actually going to stop HD Radio's advancement into the marketplace will wake up and smell the coffee?
 
ElCheapo said:
Accurian
ADA
Alpine
Boston Acoustics
Cambridge SoundWorks
Daewoo
Delphi
Denon
DICE
Directed
JVC
Kenwood
Metra
Niles Audio
Onkyo
Panasonic
Peripheral
Polk Audio
Radiosophy
Rotel
Russound
Sangean
Visteon

Every one of these manufacturers is now making one or more HD Radio products.

Gee... I wonder when the crowd that thinks they're actually going to stop HD Radio's advancement into the marketplace will wake up and smell the coffee?
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Geee.... I wonder, why HD Radio sales have been such a miserable failure, with only 35000 HD radios sold through 2006 ! Just like the HD Radio Cartel, you never talk about the actual number of HD radios sold, but only talk about all these manufacturers trying to push defective products - it's over ! :D
 
And yet, more and more manufacturers keep getting on board to make these products...

Could it be that what all the HD Radio supporters have been saying all along could be right?

HD Radio is an incredibly new product. It's really just getting started.

And from the looks of all these manufacturers signing up to make the radios, HD Radio has an incredibly bright future.
 
ElCheapo said:
And yet, more and more manufacturers keep getting on board to make these products...

Could it be that what all the HD Radio supporters have been saying all along could be right?

HD Radio is an incredibly new product. It's really just getting started.

And from the looks of all these manufacturers signing up to make the radios, HD Radio has an incredibly bright future.
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They can make all the HD Radio products they want, but no one is buying into this defective technology.
 
700WLW said:
They can make all the HD Radio products they want, but no one is buying into this defective technology.
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Yup! Of course you're right... That must be why all of these manufacturers are getting into the game.

They must all think that absolutely nobody is going to buy this stuff! ;D

I mean when you really get down to it, Denon, JVC, Onkyo and Polk are all in business to LOSE money!!
 
ElCheapo said:
700WLW said:
They can make all the HD Radio products they want, but no one is buying into this defective technology.
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Yup! Of course you're right... That must be why all of these manufacturers are getting into the game.

They must all think that absolutely nobody is going to buy this stuff! ;D

I mean when you really get down to it, Denon, JVC, Onkyo and Polk are all in business to LOSE money!!
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Just as with table-top HD radios, there are a number of manufactures, but only a few tens-of-thousands have been sold. The general public has been aware of HD Radio, for two years (and, now 75% of Americans, are aware of HD Radio, at some level), but interest has remained flat:

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+radio",+ipod,+mp3&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all

As we can see, from the graph, successful technologies, such as iPods and MP3s, took off very quickly, and consumer interest has remaind high. In comparison, HD Radio is just a flat line, even after a $200,000,000 ad campaign, by the HD Radio Cartel ! :D
 
700WLW said:
Just as with table-top HD radios, there are a number of manufactures, but only a few tens-of-thousands have been sold. The general public has been aware of HD Radio, for two years (and, now 75% of Americans, are aware of HD Radio, at some level), but interest has remained flat:

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+radio",+ipod,+mp3&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all

As we can see, from the graph, successful technologies, such as iPods and MP3s, took off very quickly, and consumer interest has remaind high. In comparison, HD Radio is just a flat line, even after a $200,000,000 ad campaign, by the HD Radio Cartel ! :D
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I'm sure you're also aware that those charts contain data for worldwide searches - not just the USA.

I can understand why there wouldn't be a lot of interest in HD in Japan, Iran or Bulgaria (man - those Bulgarians are interested in MP3s!)

Regardless - it's a chicken and egg thing. This time last year, there were two HD radios on the market. There are about to be dozens.

It's all about to change. ;D
 
700WLW said:
ElCheapo said:
Accurian
ADA
Alpine
Boston Acoustics
Cambridge SoundWorks
Daewoo
Delphi
Denon
DICE
Directed
JVC
Kenwood
Metra
Niles Audio
Onkyo
Panasonic
Peripheral
Polk Audio
Radiosophy
Rotel
Russound
Sangean
Visteon

Every one of these manufacturers is now making one or more HD Radio products.

Gee... I wonder when the crowd that thinks they're actually going to stop HD Radio's advancement into the marketplace will wake up and smell the coffee?
Click to expand...

Geee.... I wonder, why HD Radio sales have been such a miserable failure, with only 35000 HD radios sold through 2006 ! Just like the HD Radio Cartel, you never talk about the actual number of HD radios sold, but only talk about all these manufacturers trying to push defective products - it's over ! :D
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More manufacturers then that made/make C-Quam AM stereo. No one cares.

The smell from the iBiquity/broadcast cartel/FCC amalgamation isn't coffee. And coffee is much more pleasant then what you are drinking.
 
SUPERCASTER said:
More manufacturers then that made/make C-Quam AM stereo. No one cares.
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Care to make a friendly wager on that? I don't remember anywhere near that many.
 
ElCheapo said:
SUPERCASTER said:
More manufacturers then that made/make C-Quam AM stereo. No one cares.
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Care to make a friendly wager on that? I don't remember anywhere near that many.
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Many of the AM radio circuit chips designed by many of the major manufacturers for C-Quam are still used in radios today. They just do not promote it, because of the perception of little consumer interest. Radio Shack's Accurian HD radio is apparently an example.
 
SUPERCASTER said:
Many of the AM radio circuit chips designed by many of the major manufacturers for C-Quam are still used in radios today. They just do not promote it, because of the perception of little consumer interest. Radio Shack's Accurian HD radio is apparently an example.
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Most people seem to think the Accurian AM Stereo reception is DSP based.
 
I just have one question--

Is Accurian another Radio Shack-specific (i.e. private) brand, like the well-known Realistic or the (somewhat short-lived) Optimus brand several years ago? I haven't seen Accurian IBAC's at other stores I have looked at, only Radio Shack.

Just wondering.
 
MotoMuzak said:
I just have one question--

Is Accurian another Radio Shack-specific (i.e. private) brand, like the well-known Realistic or the (somewhat short-lived) Optimus brand several years ago? I haven't seen Accurian IBAC's at other stores I have looked at, only Radio Shack.

Just wondering.
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Radio Shack is a marketing company. They have carried other name brands at times over the years, and often carried items sold under other brand names with their own in-house names. Then, too, they also have exclusive products.
These are built under contract by the same manufacture facilities others contract with.
They do not have their "own facilities".
 
People don't just THINK AM Stereo is implemented in software on the Accurian. If it's 'software defined' (it is), that would be the ONLY way to do it. Right?
 
Mike Walker said:
People don't just THINK AM Stereo is implemented in software on the Accurian. If it's 'software defined' (it is), that would be the ONLY way to do it. Right?
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It is quite likely that the Accurian (and others) ARE "Software Defined Radios." Of course, the fact that they have RF tuners in them that only receive traditional broadcast frequencies is a limiting factor. The RF part is just analog. Only the modulation scheme is digital. At least in theory, they might be adaptable to other digital technologies like DRM or FMExtra. It's all in software. Of course, they probably don't have any way to load that new software, but that's another story...
 
It was announced today that another manufacturer has been licensed to manufacture HD Radios - Emerson.

The story is at the top of the business section: http://beradio.com/digital_radio_update/digital_radio_update_011007/#emer

This is a bit of a stark contrast to the other HD Radio manufacturers like BA and Polk. I can't remember Emerson ever producing anything even bearing the slightest resemblance to high-end. They are definitely a populist brand.

If you need a really cheap boombox or stereo for your kid's room, Emerson has always been the company for that.
 
ElCheapo said:
It was announced today that another manufacturer has been licensed to manufacture HD Radios - Emerson.

The story is at the top of the business section: http://beradio.com/digital_radio_update/digital_radio_update_011007/#emer

This is a bit of a stark contrast to the other HD Radio manufacturers like BA and Polk. I can't remember Emerson ever producing anything even bearing the slightest resemblance to high-end. They are definitely a populist brand.

If you need a really cheap boombox or stereo for your kid's room, Emerson has always been the company for that.
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That should be interesting. I actually own an Emerson radio that looks a lot like a Tivoli (Kloss) Model 1. Actually, I own two of them. They are AWFUL. Selectivity is unbelievably bad, picking up the same stations several times across the band, and allowing nearby stations to bleed all over everything. Oddly, if you do manage to tune it into a station (not easy), the audio quality isn't half bad. I hope they can get their QC up a bit for HD, or it will be a disaster.

You are right though; Emerson radios seldom sell for much over $50.00 or so. I'll be curious to see what they come up with.

On the other hand, it may be no big deal. The Apple iPhone is obviously the big hit of the show. Every news channel, The Wall Street Journal and USA Today are all touting it like the greatest thing since sliced bread. I haven't seen or heard a word in mainstream press about HD.
 
Tom Wells said:
Radio Shack is a marketing company. They have carried other name brands at times over the years, and often carried items sold under other brand names with their own in-house names. Then, too, they also have exclusive products.
These are built under contract by the same manufacture facilities others contract with.
They do not have their "own facilities".
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Radio Shack was "outsourcing" before the the word "outsourcing...." was invented..

I Thank God for Radio Shack..... in 1972 I was able to buy an underdash FM Cassette Player for around $120, when about the only other FM Cassette option for me to buy for my car was a SANYO model for $300! I say it again, Thank God for Radio Shack ! !
 
I have done some google searching, and cannot find any HD converters for car radios.
Anyone have info on availability of these?
I'm not interested in audio-output types, only RF-modulated types...
I've seen reference to converters, but none for purchase anywhere.
How long will we be waiting?
 
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