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So -- Rock 103 is getting a makeover.

Heard this morning that there was going to be a new line-up at WEGR. Though it could just be Tim trying to yank some chains. BUT ... this is what he said...

6a - NOON Ric, Bad Dog and Luca --- yes 6 hour shift
NOON - 4p Timmy
4p - 7p (?) an old Rock 103 Alum returning - my guess - Julie Cruise or Jennifer Reed.

That leaves Dennis out in the cold.

Now, I love Bad Dog - but I'd much rather hear an ESTABLISHED show like Dennis, Ric and Luca in the morning. I think that with Tim moving and Bev now gone - Bad Dog COULD explore other ventures.

Yes I know TONS of people love him - I do too - but "The Times They Are A Changing".

Will this work? Or is it an act of despiration?
 
Yeah, it's true -- I sent Dennis an email and got an auto-reply saying he'd been fired and to be nice to Ric and Luca. :(

I don't see how the new line-up will work. Ric is a fantastic radio personality but I don't see him or Luca meshing well with Baddog. And I will really miss Dennis -- he always made me laugh.

Right now I have a lot of hate for Clear Channel, and Rock 103 has lost a listener. The only time I ever tuned in was in the afternoons for Dennis and Ric.
 
WITH THEIR RATINGS IN THE TANK THEY'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING...BUT I, AS A ONE TIME LISTENER TO DENNIS AND RICK, WON'T BE LISTENING ANYMORE. I DON'T CARE WHO THEY 'BRING BACK'....THEIR MUSIC IS AWFUL AND WHAT'S BETWEEN THE SONGS AIN'T SO GREAT ANYMORE EITHER. ROCK-103 WAS A GREAT CLASSIC ROCKER BACK IN THE DAY...BUT NO LONGER. CONGRATULATIONS TO CLEAR CHANNEL FOR SCREWING UP YET ANOTHER STATION!
 
How were the ratings BEFORE they fired Bev and began to change things up? (I really don't know)
Were they trying to improve ratings?

If the show were getting stale then, with all three still there, why would someone think it'd be made less stale by getting rid of Bev? (Scapegoat?)

Back in the mid-late 90's and even earlier, it was funny, edgy, and a ratings smash as best I recall.
It stayed strong (ratings-wise) until fairly recently, correct?

I think this station and FM100 kept decent ratings for a long time after it was warranted... much like the way Memphians continue to re-elect less-than-competent politicians over and over again. What that is, I don't know.

Other long-time shows that haven't been removed or "shaken up" yet, must certainly see the writing.

With all the convenience and ease of ipods, sat, Internet radio, and more- things are about to get even weirder for radio folk. I fear that one day soon, one guy will do all the voicetracking and inputs for entire clusters, thus running all 5 or 6 stations from one office-leaving more room for commissioned sales people.

Since I got the stereo in the jeep that plays my ipod too, I understand why these things happen.

I have my own little radio station that I carry in my pocket (playing all Meep songs All the time) and I can check the time and temperature with a quick glance at my cell phone or dashboard.

We can each program a "radio station" for ourselves far better than anyone else can.
Radio will never again just compete with other radio.

As limited as my talents are/were, it's a good thing I know how to do other stuff.

Oh, and the six-hour Dennis and whomever show won't do any better than what's happening now.

As has been said here...Times they are A' changing.
 
old man river said:
WITH THEIR RATINGS IN THE TANK THEY'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING...BUT I, AS A ONE TIME LISTENER TO DENNIS AND RICK, WON'T BE LISTENING ANYMORE. I DON'T CARE WHO THEY 'BRING BACK'....THEIR MUSIC IS AWFUL AND WHAT'S BETWEEN THE SONGS AIN'T SO GREAT ANYMORE EITHER. ROCK-103 WAS A GREAT CLASSIC ROCKER BACK IN THE DAY...BUT NO LONGER. CONGRATULATIONS TO CLEAR CHANNEL FOR SCREWING UP YET ANOTHER STATION!

OK, first....lose the caps, Riv.

Second, you understand that they've got to do something with ratings the way they are but are just unhappy with the changes they've made? Wow, please, let me do everything exactly the way you want just to please you, because you MUST understand the pulse of all listeners in Memphis.


.........

....I better stop. My words could come back to haunt me.
 
Yeah they do have to do something - like quit playing the same song over and over and over and over .. ad nausieum.

All their little stunts, like the A-Z didn't work, and I agree a few things need changing.

Radio itself is in horrible shape overall. And until those of us in the industry can find a way to RE-INVENT it, then it will continue to decline.

A line up change is not going to solve the problems. An adaptation of the format is needed. What is it that the listening public CAN'T get on their own??

At this point --- nothing.

This person who figures this out will be the proverbial goose that laid the golden egg.
 
I certainly don't listen to the radio for music anymore. I haven't done that since the advent of the MP3. The only reason I ever tune in now is if I really like the personalities/hosts/DJs.

I followed Drake and Zeke over to 98 because I like them -- not because I care about the music there. I felt the same way about Dennis and Ric -- I liked THEM. Put them on any station and I'd still feel that way.

I don't think Clear Channel gets that. They think people tune in for the music and they can put any old talking head in there between songs. Maybe the majority of people are okay with that, I don't know. But I know I'm not. If I want to listen to music, I have an iPod.

And, uh, I think Dennis has moved far beyond the cartoon gig. He's an incredible talent/writer, and I hope some other (smart) station will snap him up.
 
Zeke_Terry said:
This person who figures this out will be the proverbial goose that laid the golden egg.

Problem is, the people who could figure it out, or at least are willing to take the chance, have either been squeezed out altogether or pigeonholed into a specific role where there is no room for trying something different. Heck, I thought I was being something different (and good at times) and I've been shifted because of a trio of tweens.
 
goldengateblonde said:
And, uh, I think Dennis has moved far beyond the cartoon gig. He's an incredible talent/writer, and I hope some other (smart) station will snap him up.

Paging Brad Carson.... Who knows, maybe Dennis & Marky B can team up together.
 
RoyBoy said:
I went over to the Rock 103 web site to see if there was any news about the change over there. I'll have to admit that this page "Mike Fleming for President" is pretty funny. Actual one-liners from the show.

http://rock103.com/pages/dnr/fleming.html

Probably be the last funny thing heard on Rock 103 that ISN'T from some other source.

And btw - who cares about that Brad guy - try to keep this on topic so the "almighty Board Mods" don't move us.
 
If Timmy is doing Noon-4pm then where does that leave Melody? Or the other two dudes in the mornings with the Crew? And will the Ronald McDonald House want to continue the Radio-Thon with the shell of a station known as Rock 103?

My afternnon guess is Rob and Art or Ron and Steve or Ron and McKeever or Ron and Kelly or Ron and Debby Hall or Ron and Debbie Clark or Ron and Preston or Ron and David Paige
 
I get rather perturbed at all the so called great radio minds that post their analysis and opinion to this site after situations like the Clear Channel shakeup. Granted - many of you who will read this could teach me so much, but I no longer choose to exercise my career under the judgment of people like Tim Davies. Granted - he could teach me many things, but he is a person that values his job, bonuses and bottom line over anything innovative and artful that a programmer/talent working under him could create….He, and people like him, do not properly correlate programming innovation into their personal success as that language does not use the making money speak. I do believe programming and talent is an art rather than a science; but not to Mr. Davies most and every major executive that is responsible for providing a check to programming people. I also believe good money follows good art.

You see, radio programming has become victim of science. Radio now has budgets and numbers to hit ( a science), national radio revenue is influenced by numbers created by.....(a science) and you program a winning station by keeping one idea per break, a fast tempo song to lead the hour, and your calls at the crack and close of the mic...ect.....all a science.

Everyone is to blame. At the top - to many numbers, to many shareholders, to much greed. At the bottom - all the bullshit rules (or science) on how to program and execute a station. The result over the last 15-20 years is major disconnect. The executives at the top who control everything are now disconnected from innovative talent; programmers at the bottom are disconnected from the demands of the listener. You executives are too worried about pandering to your big advertisers who might and pull their money out of your media one day (as the probably should since your listenership/effective reach is eroding) - and you programmers/talent seem too worried about making sure your talent fees are paid, how many remotes you have and that the post on this site from last night stirred up some shit.

I don't claim to have all the answers on how to fix the problem. Personally, I don't think it will ever be fixed and radio will forever be broken. I hope this might inspire you to take a step back, take blame and ponder how your small role in this industry might mitigate radio collapse before your role with a company does. It's sad, it’s hard and it hurts. Having pride in your art that continues to be devalued and tossed aside by both the public and company is not easy.

The problem is way past issues like, "the ratings are down...got to do something" or "adapt the format." Who are you doing it for? The CPP buyer? Think Home Depot will increase their buy some 25% now that the AM/PM team has been merged for 6 hour marathons or a major format adaptation? What about Bill Heard? No - Neither will not give a shit - and reality is most listeners don't either.

Only a small minority of radio listenership still finds value in personality....a big part of the art created. Arbritron indicates a figure (around) less than 3% of diaries returned mention personalities....and those are probably talk stations. We do know some local business make buys and, arguably, a P1 base finds great value in radio art....but do these art advocates create sufficient reward when taking programming risks? Sadly the answer is no because the pond is so small. This was not the case 20-30 years ago.

Radio will never re-invent a bigger pond. The re-invention will need to get the art removed from the product the majority hears and just offer them what they want – bare bones. This big pond just wants their Freebird - and no radio gives it to them without having morning show promos crammed down their throat all day long, and a DJ cramming calls....and a zingy sweeper that took 3 hours to produce....always a price to pay for the listener....The re-invention will need to get horribly written, produced and thought out local and national commercials out of the mix. So how does a station pay the bills and talent? I don't know. The re-invention also needs to have its own place for the small pond - so that segment will have a place to go with all the sweepers and DJ's and promos. Ever gone onto a car lot and had salesman in your face, got pissed and left? That is how the majority - the big pond - feels about your station and your show....and to feel better, they bought XM and an iPod.

Tim Davies, and industry executives as a whole, is not worried about a re-invention....in their mind radio it great, better than ever and on the cutting edge (as I envision Tim giving away a digital radio). The listener is not worried about re-invention as Wal-Mart will never run out of iPods...or even CD's for the low income. Who knows where programmers stand? But know this, if you go back to that Selector screen and back to pushing your buttons and taking the 10th caller for the free tickets, your pond is only getting smaller while your art continues to depreciate and devalue. If things continue, you will see that pond dried up.

If you can find it within your self to do radio another day by feeding off the appreciation of the small pond - good for you....you are a better person than me and I hope you get the picture.
 
Hmmm...I'm feeling a bullseye on my back for some reason.

Ok - here's problem one with - lets' use Clear Channel, but many others could be substituted. There are TOO many chiefs and not enough indians. In other words, too many people have their hand stuck out while not enough are using theirs to contribute.

Problem two - as you say - it's all science now. Formulas, equasions and crap I hated in school - you know what if it's not fun to the people who work there then how the ___ will it be fun for the poor schlob who does listen. Who cares if 'research' shows this that and the other - people who can program WILL, and those who can't will consult.

Problem three - The few people who DO take chances and start to see some kind of turn around get bought up and squashed into the ground. Examples - Froggy was fun - for a while, but that frog hopped just a BIT too long. The Pig - just happend to be a bit before it's time - had great PERSONALITIES who knew the music and for that matter a style of music you can't find anywhere. But lack of advtisers rosted that hog.

The biggest problem I see in radio is that it has disconncted itself FROM the listener. You can't call up at night and request a song - no one is there - it's either voice tracked or syndicated programming. Face it, the masses are NOT as ignorant as once thought. I LOVED talking to the listener when I was on the air - it gave me a connection. Now days - 'corporate exes' don't give a flying flip about 'em UNLESS they have a diary.

Screw corporate radio - they dug they grave and the public is filing it in - I just want to see what's put on the tombstone.
 
Mr. Terry....well said...to the point and right on! It just makes me a bit nervous being in radio and waiting for the other shoe to fall so to speak. But you are 110% correct about the disconnect...radio has cut itself off from its lilsteners and they know it.
 
Screw corporate radio - they dug they grave and the public is filing it in - I just want to see what's put on the tombstone.


Ok I can speak - just not spell ... should say..



Screw corporate radio - they dug THEIR grave and the public is filling it in - I just want to see what's put on the tombstone.
 
Today's radio is like playing "Whack-a-Mole" at the carnival. Everything that pushes up gets slammed down because nobody knows what else to do! Other than syndicated talk surfacing over the last 15 years (and now dying the death of a small brown dog), nothing else has appeared on the dial, including digital and satellite, that has had staying power. It's like shotgun radio now - if "A" seems to work, then "A-Z" might work as well. Advertisers have found they have the power and are using it; sales has found out the old ways aren't working and putting bodies on the street knocking on doors with insufficient training is just offending advertisers all the more. Websites, blogs, multimedia crosspromos, remotes/no remotes, digital production, instant fones, drops by the dunghill load, endless calls...anything you can name ain't working.

The fabulous runup enjoyed by CC and others over the last two decades has been a marvel to watch, but not to work in or even listen to in the long run. Radio is the canary in the mine for the rest of the economy. It's been tweeting its fool head off and now that mineshaft is falling in - just check stocks and/or your 401k this week. We're headed for some rough times and radio must get tighter and smaller if it wants to be here in another 20 years.

Geez, make mine Cutty Sark!
 
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