jh said:
But that station is 11th or 12th in billings, due mostly to the fact that it is not even top 15 in 25-54. Gospel tends to be a very old leaning format.
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So where does Limbaugh go in 2014?
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But that station is 11th or 12th in billings, due mostly to the fact that it is not even top 15 in 25-54. Gospel tends to be a very old leaning format.
jh said:
First, Memphis is a different market entirely. What works there would not work in many other markets.
Second, WIND seems like the only option if WLS dumps Rush. Unless some company decides to flip a full-signal Chicago FM to talk (nobody's mentioned Merlin Media yet, and they did that to their station in Philly). Clear Channel's out of the picture unless they blow up one of their FMs (unlikely) or one of their AMs (not a chance).
WVON is LMA'ed by Midway Broadcasting from Clear Channel. AFAIK, it is a long-term agreement. CC helped them move to that signal, gave them some additional resources to build it up and currently Midway has an option to buy the station outright. CC is not going to yank it back, especially to flip it to talk.
If somebody on here knows the people running WVON, I wish you could get them to shut off the IBOC hiss. It's not doing them any favors, and it buggers up the adjacent channels for many miles at night. Even IF they had an HD radio listeners, which I doubt, they have a talk format and talk sounds awful on HD AM. For the analog AM listeners, the noise sidebands just make their signal sound noisier and weaker than it already is. HD AM = Fail!
Yes on the hd on WVON. When Clear Channel added hd to 1390 and 1690, both originate from the same site, 1390 sounded bad, 1690 was and still is awful!audioguy said:
They were an oldies station still when made hd, I can say without a doubt that the hissing and extra noise present in the signal has made them unlistenable for me in the car on the west side and north side. It was never what I would call good in these places, it now sounds like a part 15, I am surprised WVON hasn't asked to turn it off.
How long does the LMA for 1690 last, how long ihave they been there? My memory wants to say 3+ years now, that's probably a little off target. Does WVON make enough money to buy the station? There arbi's are down in the basement with WCPT and WIND.
WIND doesn't subscribe anymore so they don't show up in the public, the number is always in the .5-.7 range.
audioguy said:
I'll vouch for that. I'm in Winnipeg once or twice a year, and WIND is pretty much a nightly regular....now even more so now that 2nd adjacent CKY (580) is off. WEBC and sometimes KMON get clobbered. This has been the case for as long as I've been going there (20+ years).
Boom! Vindicated, DavidEduardo!
Incidentally, when I was there in the Peg I drove out to the CKY towers; they were still there. That was about 7 years ago now. I also went looking for the CBW tower but never found it. The guys at the studios downtown sent me on a wild goose chase that led to CBC TV instead.
Incidentally, when I was there in the Peg I drove out to the CKY towers; they were still there. That was about 7 years ago now. I also went looking for the CBW tower but never found it. The guys at the studios downtown sent me on a wild goose chase that led to CBC TV instead.
audioguy said:
The statement was "all the way to Winnipeg." I thoroughly doubt that WIND can be heard everywhere along the route, along the way.
It may be the dominant skywave signal IN Winnipeg, but it's really unlikely it has that status on the whole route... particularly since that route goes right through WEBC's contours.
Does anybody still listen too rush? I think he needs to follow Glen Beck. 
DavidEduardo said:
Okay, now I'll vindicate both of you guys!
In my 33 years as road warrior, I've made the run from my home in the Chicago area directly to Winnipeg a few times. Including the most direct route, which goes through Duluth and International Falls. WIND's night signal makes it to within about 20-25 miles southeast of Duluth (on US 53) before WEBC takes over completely.
Beyond Duluth (also on 53), WIND starts to re-emerge in the Iron Range area...around Virginia and Hibbing. IIRC, this is about 75 miles northwest of Duluth-Superior. I haven't driven the leg between the Iron Range and Duluth during the hours of darkness, but I have spent the night in Fort Frances, ON....which is on the other side of the Rainy River from International Falls. There, my memory is of WIND and WEBC mixing....more or less "taking turns" on top. KWTO was also in the mix at times, but I don't think it ever got on top.
Three hours farther up the road in Winnipeg, WIND has always been a regular. WIND frequently clobbers WEBC, but WEBC is usually there also, dislodging WIND from the top every now and then.
This is all from memory. I'll be back in Winnipeg in a couple of months. So I'll be sure to spend some time on 560 and report what I find going on. Oh....and as for CBW? The FM stick is south of town on Pembina Highway (Manitoba 75). The AM stick is west of town (in the middle of noplace)! I've driven by the FM stick multiple times...AM less often, and only from a distance. CKY? The "Prairie Powerhouse" is (or was) still going on FM, and also continues as a network (CTV) TV station.
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