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So, Where to Now?

S

SirRoxalot

With KB Radio gone as a music station, where are their regular listeners going to end up?

WHTT plays some '60s from the Beatles era and newer, but they've shifted much of their music into the '70s. You're more likely to hear an '80s song than a '50s track.

So, where do you go to get you daily dose of doo-wop? Satellite? CDs? On-line?

The same question can be asked of former WECK listeners.
 
> With KB Radio gone as a music station, where are their
> regular listeners going to end up?
>
> WHTT plays some '60s from the Beatles era and newer, but
> they've shifted much of their music into the '70s. You're
> more likely to hear an '80s song than a '50s track.
>
> So, where do you go to get you daily dose of doo-wop?
> Satellite? CDs? On-line?
>
> The same question can be asked of former WECK listeners.
>
Dosen't seem like the Lake is making any big waves latley. What if they took that station and make it oldies?
 
So, Where to Now? XM of Course!

> With KB Radio gone as a music station, where are their
> regular listeners going to end up?

I hate to say this but XM. At least we don't have to worry about them changing the format. It's not KB but it sure sounds good. I get XM via DirecTV and I have enjoyed listening to it today. They have a guy on the air by the name of Terry "Motormouth" Young who sounds a lot like someone who was doing afternoons on KB.

David Fill who runs the excellent WKBW tribute site wkbwradio.com tells me his servers are running hard from all the people leaving comments. They are frustrated since they can't get anyone at the radio station to take their calls. They are venting on his Guestbook section. If only the people at Entercom would listen. KB was a special station for many. If promoted better it might have done well, especially with all the changes in the local radio scene.

MikeM
 
Re: So, Where to Now? Siriusly!

Sirius has several good oldies channels also, Sirius Gold Channel 5 is early top 40 music from the mid '50's to early '60's, including Norm N. Nite live from the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame 5 days a week. Channel 6 is all '60's hits, with New York City legend Cousin Brucie live Wednesday & Saturday nights.
Jackson Armstrong could be a good addition there, too.

Terry Young was the evening jock at CHR "Hot Hits!" WCAU-FM in Philadelphia in the 1980's, later toned down a bit in mornings there. His style was similar to Armstrong.

> I hate to say this but XM. At least we don't have to worry
> about them changing the format. It's not KB but it sure
> sounds good. I get XM via DirecTV and I have enjoyed
> listening to it today. They have a guy on the air by the
> name of Terry "Motormouth" Young who sounds a lot like
> someone who was doing afternoons on KB.
>
 
WHTT reminds me alittle bit like the new KFRC from San Francisco as a big hunk of the playlist is from the 70's.

> With KB Radio gone as a music station, where are their
> regular listeners going to end up?
>
> WHTT plays some '60s from the Beatles era and newer, but
> they've shifted much of their music into the '70s. You're
> more likely to hear an '80s song than a '50s track.
>
> So, where do you go to get you daily dose of doo-wop?
> Satellite? CDs? On-line?
>
> The same question can be asked of former WECK listeners.
>
 
Re: So, Where to Now (St. Peter?)

> WHTT reminds me alittle bit like the new KFRC from San
> Francisco as a big hunk of the playlist is from the 70's.
>
> > With KB Radio gone as a music station, where are their
> > regular listeners going to end up?
> >
> > WHTT plays some '60s from the Beatles era and newer, but
> > they've shifted much of their music into the '70s. You're
> > more likely to hear an '80s song than a '50s track.
> >
> > So, where do you go to get you daily dose of doo-wop?
> > Satellite? CDs? On-line?
> >
> > The same question can be asked of former WECK listeners.
> >
>

There are times when WHTT sounds like it's on the cutting edge of Oldies. Huh? Did I write that? Except, WHTT doesn't call them "oldies" anymore because nobody over 40 wants to think of him/herself as "old." So they're classic hits or greatest hits. WHTT sounds very fresh for a station that plays songs that are 20, 30 and occasionally 40 years old. After 9 a.m., the presentation is tight, local and sounds like some kind of hybrid between AOR, 70's disco and 80's. Like a well-focused Jack... except with live jocks who have an act.

Somebody wrote that WHTT was playing the Greatest Hits of Rock 102, a pretty funny take; but it happens to be true and it might make sense in ratings and revenue. Rock 102 was a pretty decent station, even though it was automated. Sounds like WHTT is chasing WJYE and Star, but what happens if and when it ever catches up with them?

I can't imagine too many ex-KB listeners going to WHTT, it's almost too new for them. No Everly Brothers, Elvis or Bobby Darin, instead, you get Tina Turner, Elton John and the Beatles. I suspect ex-KB listeners will check out WHTT but find it too contemporary and settle on CHWO 740.



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> Dosen't seem like the Lake is making any big waves latley.
> What if they took that station and make it oldies?

Nah, I don't think they're smart enough to do that. It might shake up WHTT that would be fun!
 
> With KB Radio gone as a music station, where are their
> regular listeners going to end up?

I recommend 1440 WJJL. How's the signal for that station in the Buffalo area thogh?<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P>
 
> > Dosen't seem like the Lake is making any big waves latley.
>
> > What if they took that station and make it oldies?
>
> Nah, I don't think they're smart enough to do that. It might
> shake up WHTT that would be fun!
>
I like the idea, but I believe that station would have gone straight from sports talk to oldies if it were a great idea, and 1520 woould have gone ahead with left talk around the same time instead of now.<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P>
 
Not so fast...

> I like the idea, but I believe that station would have gone
> straight from sports talk to oldies if it were a great idea,
> and 1520 woould have gone ahead with left talk around the
> same time instead of now.

The Lake has twice the ratings that KB ever had, and has a more saleable audience demographically. A change to "real oldies" isn't the answer.

With their signal contours and history, it seems to me like they need to go in a direction that nobody else is likely to follow. Smooth Jazz is a possibility. Actually, "refreshing" the current approach isn't a bad choice. Loosen up the reins on the jocks a little, and lose the crickets. That would be a good start.
 
Re: Not so fast...

> oldies" isn't the answer.
>
> With their signal contours and history, it seems to me like
> they need to go in a direction that nobody else is likely to
> follow. Smooth Jazz is a possibility. Actually, "refreshing"
> the current approach isn't a bad choice. Loosen up the reins
> on the jocks a little, and lose the crickets. That would be
> a good start.
>
DUDE! With all due (highest) respect, are you or are you not the same dude that said 1520 will never go talk?

Oldies is now a wide open option. I wouldn't put it past them.
I'm just glad they didn't put the left talker on FM.
In mono mode, the sports format streched a farther distance.
On the topic of mono, why not put the station back in mono mode and go all oldies anyway?
Most, if not all oldies were recorded in mono, so it does no harm to restore mono mode on 107.7 FM, in better interest of maxing out their signal strength with an oldies format.
 
What about CHUM?

Good signal in WNY...sure some ears might move over to the remaining heritage oldies station.
 
$$$$$

> DUDE! With all due (highest) respect, are you or are you not
> the same dude that said 1520 will never go talk?

Entercom felt pushed into offering lib-talk to protect WBEN from an attack by WHLD. If KB had been bringing in the kind of numbers and/or revenue that WECK was generating, I doubt that it would have happened.

> Oldies is now a wide open option. I wouldn't put it past them.

The problem with Oldies, as demonstrated by the old WHTT format and the history of WWKB as a music station, is that the demographics it attracts don't generate enough revenue from sponsors. Whether that's a problem with the sponsors, agency buyers, or sales people is debatable. In reality, all three are at fault, and the radio stations can't fix it.

BTW, Buffalo isn't the only market where Oldies has died. The list of "true oldies" stations shrinks daily.
 
Re: Not so fast...

> > I like the idea, but I believe that station would have
> gone
> > straight from sports talk to oldies if it were a great
> idea,
> > and 1520 woould have gone ahead with left talk around the
> > same time instead of now.
>
> The Lake has twice the ratings that KB ever had, and has a
> more saleable audience demographically. A change to "real
> oldies" isn't the answer.
>
> With their signal contours and history, it seems to me like
> they need to go in a direction that nobody else is likely to
> follow. Smooth Jazz is a possibility. Actually, "refreshing"
> the current approach isn't a bad choice. Loosen up the reins
> on the jocks a little, and lose the crickets. That would be
> a good start.
>
They need to add frogs and tropical birds..
 
Re: What about CHUM?

> Good signal in WNY...sure some ears might move over to the
> remaining heritage oldies station.
>

Listen Friday morning at 9 am...the talk format is just starting to return to 1050 CHUM, and the station may go back to some form of talk radio soon.

I trust oldies 1150 more for the best oldies, but I'm not aware if that station reaches Buffalo or not. Sounds like 1440 WJJL is the better bet for Buffalo.<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P>
 
Because oldies is gone from 1520 and standards from 1230, you might want to check out Rochester's Legends 990 WLGZ. I don't know if Legends 990's signal reaches Buffalo, but I do know that it streams live over the Internet. They play a mix of standards and oldies.<P ID="signature">______________
Ivan Badget
Waipahu, Hawaii</P>
 
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