If i read this correctly http://www.theticket.com/Teams/Cowboys/tabid/460/Default.aspx cumulus media's contract with the cowboys offically ended and they are not trying to renew it, so who is going to get the cowboys next
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So...who gets the cowboys next
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Jerry on The Fan last week with Ben and Skin says it all.
Re: So...who gets the cowboys next (KRLD-AM & FM)
Hello All,
I have heard from a good friend inside KRLD-FM 105.3 a few month ago. That The Dallas Cowboys are going to KRLD 1080AM & KRLD 105.3FM. Cowboys like to have both 50,000 watts on AM and 100,000 watts on FM for it's new 10 year contact as it's Flagship Station. Jones want the Cowboys to be heard in the southwest US on 1080AM and local at Jerry World on 105.3FM in FM-HD. I think this is a great move by CBS KRLD and Jerry Jones. GREAT JOB!!! GUYS!!!! GREAT RADIO!!!
The Ticket 1310 will eat doooodoooodoooodoooo now!!!!
DAN=THE=MAN!!!
The North Texas Radio MAN!!
Hello All,
I have heard from a good friend inside KRLD-FM 105.3 a few month ago. That The Dallas Cowboys are going to KRLD 1080AM & KRLD 105.3FM. Cowboys like to have both 50,000 watts on AM and 100,000 watts on FM for it's new 10 year contact as it's Flagship Station. Jones want the Cowboys to be heard in the southwest US on 1080AM and local at Jerry World on 105.3FM in FM-HD. I think this is a great move by CBS KRLD and Jerry Jones. GREAT JOB!!! GUYS!!!! GREAT RADIO!!!
The Ticket 1310 will eat doooodoooodoooodoooo now!!!!
DAN=THE=MAN!!!
The North Texas Radio MAN!!
Umm.. yeah. Switch to decaf Dan.
No deal has been announced yet. The Fan screwed up by signing a contract with NASCAR before they realized the Cowboys were a possibility. They probably can't get out of that deal. It is likely that Jones will have to settle for KRLD-AM for most games and some games simulcast on both AM and FM. Complicating matters further is the Rangers deal. They may also have some days where the Rangers and NASCAR make KRLD (AM or FM) simply not an option for the Cowboys.
This is a real mess and their aren't a lot of good options for CBS radio. I have no doubt a deal will get done, but the Rangers and NASCAR are going to have to sign off on it too. Look for some late season Ranger games to go to a 3rd station somewhere.
No deal has been announced yet. The Fan screwed up by signing a contract with NASCAR before they realized the Cowboys were a possibility. They probably can't get out of that deal. It is likely that Jones will have to settle for KRLD-AM for most games and some games simulcast on both AM and FM. Complicating matters further is the Rangers deal. They may also have some days where the Rangers and NASCAR make KRLD (AM or FM) simply not an option for the Cowboys.
This is a real mess and their aren't a lot of good options for CBS radio. I have no doubt a deal will get done, but the Rangers and NASCAR are going to have to sign off on it too. Look for some late season Ranger games to go to a 3rd station somewhere.
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MikeShannon914
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dantheman said:
Does anyone really think that EITHER station will still be around in 10 years, especially the FM side? For stability's sake, they'd better stick with KLUV or KVIL...or pass on it altogether. Strange, I haven't seen the negatives posted here that were brought up when KLUV dropped the 'Pokes and Sucksquehanna picked them up...like major revenue disparities (cost to carry the games vs how much revenue the games ACTUALLY generate,) and Jerry's Influence over the talk show product, and also taking on the Cowboys Radio Network and the insane costs of uplinks, equipment and personnel. And does CBS really want to shell out $8 an hour to have a board op in place at BOTH stations on gameday? :
Sorry, Dan, there HAS to be more to this story. I see Jerry having a problem signing even THREE years with a given station, considering the bust that the Sucksquehanna/Cumulus relationship has been. Jerry should simply buy his own station (1190?) and do it HIS way...HIS hosts, his message, his spin, and his ultimate control. Bless his little heart, that's all he asks for in life, right?
But there's a world of differnce between KTCk and KRLD-FM right now. 1310 is still one of the top billers in the market, I bet the reason they got out of the deal is that they weren't willing to give Jerry what he wanted in terms of inventory, players shows, etc.MikeShannon914 said:Strange, I haven't seen the negatives posted here that were brought up when KLUV dropped the 'Pokes and Sucksquehanna picked them up...like major revenue disparities (cost to carry the games vs how much revenue the games ACTUALLY generate,) and Jerry's Influence over the talk show product, and also taking on the Cowboys Radio Network and the insane costs of uplinks, equipment and personnel. And does CBS really want to shell out $8 an hour to have a board op in place at BOTH stations on gameday? :
Where KRLD-FM is so far back in terms of both ratings and revenue that they can afford to give Jerry have the station inventory, as they can't sell it for decent rates themselves. Same with the player shows. My source inside 'the mothership' tells me those 7pm player shows are ratings killers. Only the hard-core most homer fans listen, and they can get better ratings with whatever else they run an night.
My theory is that KTCK decided they didn't 'need' the Cowboys (neither their ratings or their revenue has increased significantly over their pre-cowboys numbers) and they didn't need to cater to Jerry, while KRLD-FM is willing to acter to him, as the exposure is just a marketing budget under a different budget line. Instead of paying for a bunch of billboards or TV commercials, (both of which require cash) they give Jerry inventroy they can't sell for much right now, and get the in-game exposure, the cross-promotion exposure, etc
And BTW, I'm still hearing that TMS and nascar are the sticking point. They have a contract with CBS to run races, and they don't feel a need to take a backseat to the Cowboys. Now there may be $omething $ignificant to $hift their thinking, but right now they're in the drivers seat, so to speak....
MikeShannon914 said:
Maybe Jones does not want to buy a station. In this economy, is it wise to buy a station. His main focus right now is getting the new stadium finished in time for George Strait to sing his s**t kicker music. If he really wanted to buy a station, he could have easily bought one 3 years ago. Who says that the Cumulus/Cowboys deal was a bust? KRLD-FM maybe the logical choice, but don't count out a suprise guest. Going back to 1190 maybe good, but Jones wants the games on FM as well.
little1 said:But there's a world of differnce between KTCk and KRLD-FM right now. 1310 is still one of the top billers in the market, I bet the reason they got out of the deal is that they weren't willing to give Jerry what he wanted in terms of inventory, players shows, etc.MikeShannon914 said:Strange, I haven't seen the negatives posted here that were brought up when KLUV dropped the 'Pokes and Sucksquehanna picked them up...like major revenue disparities (cost to carry the games vs how much revenue the games ACTUALLY generate,) and Jerry's Influence over the talk show product, and also taking on the Cowboys Radio Network and the insane costs of uplinks, equipment and personnel. And does CBS really want to shell out $8 an hour to have a board op in place at BOTH stations on gameday? :
Where KRLD-FM is so far back in terms of both ratings and revenue that they can afford to give Jerry have the station inventory, as they can't sell it for decent rates themselves. Same with the player shows. My source inside 'the mothership' tells me those 7pm player shows are ratings killers. Only the hard-core most homer fans listen, and they can get better ratings with whatever else they run an night.
My theory is that KTCK decided they didn't 'need' the Cowboys (neither their ratings or their revenue has increased significantly over their pre-cowboys numbers) and they didn't need to cater to Jerry, while KRLD-FM is willing to acter to him, as the exposure is just a marketing budget under a different budget line. Instead of paying for a bunch of billboards or TV commercials, (both of which require cash) they give Jerry inventroy they can't sell for much right now, and get the in-game exposure, the cross-promotion exposure, etc
And BTW, I'm still hearing that TMS and nascar are the sticking point. They have a contract with CBS to run races, and they don't feel a need to take a backseat to the Cowboys. Now there may be $omething $ignificant to $hift their thinking, but right now they're in the drivers seat, so to speak....
Now this is a person who understands broadcast rights deals.
salemjedi54 said:
Oh my gosh... "Jones" an "wise" in the same paragraph!
Is it wise to build a new stadium in this economy? Is it wise to double / triple the season ticket prices in this economy?
Jones is not a wise man. He's a fool, and you know what they say about fools and their money.
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ISaidSo
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What's that? They make a lot more? Because that is all he has done for 20 years....
scrtr84 said:
Yes he is wise. He turned 140 million into 1.4 billion. Did you do that in 20 years? So if you think he is a fool, then I want to be a fool just like him.
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MikeShannon914
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Jerry's "smartness" comes from being able to make OTHER people pay for his follies. Taxpayers, fans, vendors, corporate sponsors, etc. Yeah, some "shrewdness" in there, but it's not like everything he does is a 100% gamble off his personal wealth, or involves much risk.
MikeShannon914 said:
Thats called business. Its done everyday.
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ISaidSo
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Follies? You have to separate the discussion here.... He is a brilliant business man. Period. He took over a team that was losing money, bought them for $140 mill, and now they are worth more than a billion dollars. Fans, and sponsors choose to support the Cowboys, he doesn’t trick them. The team winning or losing has nothing to do with the business of what he does. Now you can question his GM skills. But only an idiot would question his business skills. Not to even mention all of the events that he is bring to DFW, (Super Bowl, Final Four, NBA All-star game, College football match-ups, major concerts, etc) do you think the taxpayer will benefits from that? Thought so! 8)
ISaidSo said:
ding ding ding ding.........The team may suck, but they are making money. Can one person on this board say they have turned a 140 million dollar investment into 1.4 billion corporation.
Most folk may not like how he runs the team, but you have to admire the way he does business.
Since everyone is speculating wildly at this point, i'll jump on the bandwagon.
I'm wondering if CBS might reach an arrangement when there are those unique rangers/nascar/cowboys conflicts at the same time that the NASCAR races could be moved somewhere else, (hypothetically) such as KFXR, or KJSA (if during the daytime).
While they are at it, they might consider acquiring the Spanish broadcast rights for 107.5... Oh hell, work out an arrangement to have KDFT simulcast the Spanish feed, similar to how KRTS was an AM affiliate for the st louis rams.
I'm wondering if CBS might reach an arrangement when there are those unique rangers/nascar/cowboys conflicts at the same time that the NASCAR races could be moved somewhere else, (hypothetically) such as KFXR, or KJSA (if during the daytime).
While they are at it, they might consider acquiring the Spanish broadcast rights for 107.5... Oh hell, work out an arrangement to have KDFT simulcast the Spanish feed, similar to how KRTS was an AM affiliate for the st louis rams.
Hopefully a big signal gets the Cowboys games, since tickets to the cheap nosebleed seats will likely be over a grand if things keep going the way they are going. The average guy won't be able to afford to go to a game.
At least I can go to a Ranger game for 50 bucks or so. That covers parking & a couple of beers, especially on Tom Thumb Tuesday or similar. If you showed up at Jerry's World with a fifty they would laugh you out of the stadium. I know there are less football than baseball games but there has to be a breaking point very soon with most people. Especially if you have a large family, forget it. Watch them lose from home.
At least I can go to a Ranger game for 50 bucks or so. That covers parking & a couple of beers, especially on Tom Thumb Tuesday or similar. If you showed up at Jerry's World with a fifty they would laugh you out of the stadium. I know there are less football than baseball games but there has to be a breaking point very soon with most people. Especially if you have a large family, forget it. Watch them lose from home.
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JBB
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Of course it's cheaper to go to a Ranger game. The Ballpark has a regular season capacity of about 3.9 million, while the new Cowboys will be able to service 640,000 fans in the regular season (assuming regular season seating is 80,000). That's just the way economics works.
What do you mean by "cheap nosebleed seats will likely be over a grand"? The price I've seen for the cheapest seats is around $60 a game. That being said, I have no doubt that the building will sell out every Sunday, even if the nosebleed seats go for a thousand a game.
What do you mean by "cheap nosebleed seats will likely be over a grand"? The price I've seen for the cheapest seats is around $60 a game. That being said, I have no doubt that the building will sell out every Sunday, even if the nosebleed seats go for a thousand a game.
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