ok, heres another question. Obviously any of us who have been at this for any length of time have seen the change in the business first hand. I've been lucky enough to start at my station when we were still playing albums, so I've seen the decline from the beginning. Yep, I complain about the current state, and speak wistfully of "the old days", but truth be told, I am here for the long run. I will sit my carcass behind the board every night and play the same crap I played the previous evening, because I really do love what I do. So my question remains...as bad as we all agree its become, what compels us to keep at it?
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M
Miami
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> ok, heres another question. Obviously any of us who have
> been at this for any length of time have seen the change in
> the business first hand. I've been lucky enough to start at
> my station when we were still playing albums, so I've seen
> the decline from the beginning. Yep, I complain about the
> current state, and speak wistfully of "the old days", but
> truth be told, I am here for the long run. I will sit my
> carcass behind the board every night and play the same crap
> I played the previous evening, because I really do love what
> I do. So my question remains...as bad as we all agree its
> become, what compels us to keep at it?
>
Because I can't sing or dance....Answer me this; If you were to lose your position, would you then continue in the business? Would you go through the daily/weekly checking of jobs online? Sending tapes and resumes out weekly and NOT getting any kind of response from the pd? Would you think radio was compelling enough to continue at that point? I honestly hope you never have to find out,but as they say " You're not really in radio until you've been fired."
> been at this for any length of time have seen the change in
> the business first hand. I've been lucky enough to start at
> my station when we were still playing albums, so I've seen
> the decline from the beginning. Yep, I complain about the
> current state, and speak wistfully of "the old days", but
> truth be told, I am here for the long run. I will sit my
> carcass behind the board every night and play the same crap
> I played the previous evening, because I really do love what
> I do. So my question remains...as bad as we all agree its
> become, what compels us to keep at it?
>
Because I can't sing or dance....Answer me this; If you were to lose your position, would you then continue in the business? Would you go through the daily/weekly checking of jobs online? Sending tapes and resumes out weekly and NOT getting any kind of response from the pd? Would you think radio was compelling enough to continue at that point? I honestly hope you never have to find out,but as they say " You're not really in radio until you've been fired."
> Because I can't sing or dance....Answer me this; If you were
> to lose your position, would you then continue in the
> business? Would you go through the daily/weekly checking of
> jobs online? Sending tapes and resumes out weekly and NOT
> getting any kind of response from the pd? Would you think
> radio was compelling enough to continue at that point? I
> honestly hope you never have to find out,but as they say "
> You're not really in radio until you've been fired."
>
Personally I dont know if I would have the fortitude to go through the process again, given radio's current state. More stations are turning to voice tracking or hiring board op's at minimum wage to run some syndicated program, which squeezes out the live aspect of the business. Knock on wood I havent been in the position of being fired or having some moron not even acknowledge my interest in a job. I guess my point was, if you work at Home Depot and hate the job, you leave and dont look back. Same with any other job it seems. You dont hear someone at Walmart complain about how much they despise thier job, only to quit and go to Target. I have a friend that works at a gym, he hates it, and everytime I see him he tells me this. I doubt his plans are to quit only to go to another gym for employment (although he is "chunky" so it wouldn't hurt). Does this clear up the post at all?
> to lose your position, would you then continue in the
> business? Would you go through the daily/weekly checking of
> jobs online? Sending tapes and resumes out weekly and NOT
> getting any kind of response from the pd? Would you think
> radio was compelling enough to continue at that point? I
> honestly hope you never have to find out,but as they say "
> You're not really in radio until you've been fired."
>
Personally I dont know if I would have the fortitude to go through the process again, given radio's current state. More stations are turning to voice tracking or hiring board op's at minimum wage to run some syndicated program, which squeezes out the live aspect of the business. Knock on wood I havent been in the position of being fired or having some moron not even acknowledge my interest in a job. I guess my point was, if you work at Home Depot and hate the job, you leave and dont look back. Same with any other job it seems. You dont hear someone at Walmart complain about how much they despise thier job, only to quit and go to Target. I have a friend that works at a gym, he hates it, and everytime I see him he tells me this. I doubt his plans are to quit only to go to another gym for employment (although he is "chunky" so it wouldn't hurt). Does this clear up the post at all?
M
Miami
Guest
> >
> Personally I dont know if I would have the fortitude to go
> through the process again, given radio's current state. More
> stations are turning to voice tracking or hiring board op's
> at minimum wage to run some syndicated program, which
> squeezes out the live aspect of the business. Knock on wood
> I havent been in the position of being fired or having some
> moron not even acknowledge my interest in a job. I guess my
> point was, if you work at Home Depot and hate the job, you
> leave and dont look back. Same with any other job it seems.
> You dont hear someone at Walmart complain about how much
> they despise thier job, only to quit and go to Target. I
> have a friend that works at a gym, he hates it, and
> everytime I see him he tells me this. I doubt his plans are
> to quit only to go to another gym for employment (although
> he is "chunky" so it wouldn't hurt). Does this clear up the
> post at all?
>
Well then I'd have to say for me, it's ego. DOH!! Let's role play for a moment. Let's say you meet a hot chick and she asks what you do. You reply "I sell Herbal Life. Wanna buy some? I spent four grand on product and I can't possibly sell anymore to my family" Hmmmmmmmmm, not getting laid are you? Scenario two."I'm a jock at WXXX ,wanna see the studio?". Guess what? You're getting some action. Now certainly I'm exaggerating things just a bit to help make my point, but you do get my point? Once you're in radio, on tv or been in movies ( which I've had the good fortune to be in all three) it's kind of tough to go back to being a "normal joe". Is it shallow? Probably. Is it arrogrance? Sure. But you've got to have an ego to some degree to work in this business.( Talent doesn't hurt either) I've always said that the worst day on air is still better than the best day at some non radio job. Tell your friend to lay off the Little Debbies and do a pushup...If he can.
> Personally I dont know if I would have the fortitude to go
> through the process again, given radio's current state. More
> stations are turning to voice tracking or hiring board op's
> at minimum wage to run some syndicated program, which
> squeezes out the live aspect of the business. Knock on wood
> I havent been in the position of being fired or having some
> moron not even acknowledge my interest in a job. I guess my
> point was, if you work at Home Depot and hate the job, you
> leave and dont look back. Same with any other job it seems.
> You dont hear someone at Walmart complain about how much
> they despise thier job, only to quit and go to Target. I
> have a friend that works at a gym, he hates it, and
> everytime I see him he tells me this. I doubt his plans are
> to quit only to go to another gym for employment (although
> he is "chunky" so it wouldn't hurt). Does this clear up the
> post at all?
>
Well then I'd have to say for me, it's ego. DOH!! Let's role play for a moment. Let's say you meet a hot chick and she asks what you do. You reply "I sell Herbal Life. Wanna buy some? I spent four grand on product and I can't possibly sell anymore to my family" Hmmmmmmmmm, not getting laid are you? Scenario two."I'm a jock at WXXX ,wanna see the studio?". Guess what? You're getting some action. Now certainly I'm exaggerating things just a bit to help make my point, but you do get my point? Once you're in radio, on tv or been in movies ( which I've had the good fortune to be in all three) it's kind of tough to go back to being a "normal joe". Is it shallow? Probably. Is it arrogrance? Sure. But you've got to have an ego to some degree to work in this business.( Talent doesn't hurt either) I've always said that the worst day on air is still better than the best day at some non radio job. Tell your friend to lay off the Little Debbies and do a pushup...If he can.
Well then I'd have to say for me, it's ego. DOH!! Let's
> role play for a moment. Let's say you meet a hot chick and
> she asks what you do. You reply "I sell Herbal Life. Wanna
> buy some? I spent four grand on product and I can't possibly
> sell anymore to my family" Hmmmmmmmmm, not getting laid are
> you? Scenario two."I'm a jock at WXXX ,wanna see the
> studio?". Guess what? You're getting some action. Now
> certainly I'm exaggerating things just a bit to help make my
> point, but you do get my point? Once you're in radio, on tv
> or been in movies ( which I've had the good fortune to be in
> all three) it's kind of tough to go back to being a "normal
> joe". Is it shallow? Probably. Is it arrogrance? Sure. But
> you've got to have an ego to some degree to work in this
> business.( Talent doesn't hurt either) I've always said that
> the worst day on air is still better than the best day at
> some non radio job. Tell your friend to lay off the Little
> Debbies and do a pushup...If he can.
What??? use your position as an radio announcer to impress a woman, who ever heard of such a thing..man I miss working overnights!! I agree, radio does demand a certain amount of ego. I dont care how grounded you think you are, we have chosen to work in an industry that puts you on display in some sense. Its how you control that ego that I believe dictates your future. We all know people that really think backselling a doors song is the equivelant of saving a life, hopefully reality bites them in the ass quickly. But for anyone that scans the dial on any given weekend, you will hear announcers that at one time worked full time in radio and were very good at it. whether they chose to take a lesser role in the industry by just working a sunday shift, or whether they are working part time while sending out bushels of tapes hoping to get back into full time, the point is still the same, they continue to do this...and face it unless your shift happens during drive time, the money isn't great. Miami, as far as your "movie" career, is it something that we may have heard of, or do I have to go through the curtains at tommy k's to find it?
> role play for a moment. Let's say you meet a hot chick and
> she asks what you do. You reply "I sell Herbal Life. Wanna
> buy some? I spent four grand on product and I can't possibly
> sell anymore to my family" Hmmmmmmmmm, not getting laid are
> you? Scenario two."I'm a jock at WXXX ,wanna see the
> studio?". Guess what? You're getting some action. Now
> certainly I'm exaggerating things just a bit to help make my
> point, but you do get my point? Once you're in radio, on tv
> or been in movies ( which I've had the good fortune to be in
> all three) it's kind of tough to go back to being a "normal
> joe". Is it shallow? Probably. Is it arrogrance? Sure. But
> you've got to have an ego to some degree to work in this
> business.( Talent doesn't hurt either) I've always said that
> the worst day on air is still better than the best day at
> some non radio job. Tell your friend to lay off the Little
> Debbies and do a pushup...If he can.
What??? use your position as an radio announcer to impress a woman, who ever heard of such a thing..man I miss working overnights!! I agree, radio does demand a certain amount of ego. I dont care how grounded you think you are, we have chosen to work in an industry that puts you on display in some sense. Its how you control that ego that I believe dictates your future. We all know people that really think backselling a doors song is the equivelant of saving a life, hopefully reality bites them in the ass quickly. But for anyone that scans the dial on any given weekend, you will hear announcers that at one time worked full time in radio and were very good at it. whether they chose to take a lesser role in the industry by just working a sunday shift, or whether they are working part time while sending out bushels of tapes hoping to get back into full time, the point is still the same, they continue to do this...and face it unless your shift happens during drive time, the money isn't great. Miami, as far as your "movie" career, is it something that we may have heard of, or do I have to go through the curtains at tommy k's to find it?
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