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So Why Is BCN Auditioning?

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neanderpol

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I've seen a couple of posts regarding a former (morning?) team auditioning at night on WBCN.

Is this something that's mandated by corporate? Because I was under the impression that Program Director Dave Wellington preferred Hardy & Hamilton as his team of choice?

And what does this do to current night (and all around good) guy Mark Hamilton?

Are these guys potential "local" replacements for DLR?

What gives?
 
> I've seen a couple of posts regarding a former (morning?)
> team auditioning at night on WBCN.
>
> Is this something that's mandated by corporate? Because I
> was under the impression that Program Director Dave
> Wellington preferred Hardy & Hamilton as his team of choice?
>
>
> And what does this do to current night (and all around good)
> guy Mark Hamilton?
>
> Are these guys potential "local" replacements for DLR?
>
> What gives?
>
I would say Corproate directive. Wellington never would have brought those guys in on his own, they like to talk and it's well known that Wellington's programming philosophy does not allow for personalities to do very much of that, whether it is compelling content or not...he's all about hammering the playlist and little more which is also reflected in the station's numbers over the past year during his tenure there. They're probably being auditioned for placeement somewhere within the chain, I hear they have already tried out on Free Fm in Phoenix.
 
> it's well known that Wellington's programming philosophy
> does not allow for personalities to do very much of that,
> whether it is compelling content or not...he's all about
> hammering the playlist and little more which is also
> reflected in the station's numbers over the past year during
> his tenure there.

To be fair, WBCN's numbers were sliding even before he arrived. He may not have done much to revive them, but he didn't cause the problem.
 
> I hear they have already tried out on Free Fm in Phoenix.

Toucher, Rich, & Crash were all employees of WNNX in Atlanta. Rich left about two years ago, Crash was let go about 6 or 7 months ago, and (Fred) Toucher's last day was this past Friday.

Jimmy Baron, who was the other member of the show (who has been with WNNX for about 13 years) is rumored to be auditioning himself with the Free FM format in various markets.

Toucher, Rich, & Crash auditioned in Phoenix (as an above poster noted).

If guys hear Toucher, Rich, & Crash on WBCN soon, please drop us a line over on the Atlanta board!

Crash (or someone using his name) posted on the Atlanta board this weekend saying that we should be hearing them on WBCN and that we should listen when we're in town.
 
> > it's well known that Wellington's programming philosophy
> > does not allow for personalities to do very much of that,
> > whether it is compelling content or not...he's all about
> > hammering the playlist and little more which is also
> > reflected in the station's numbers over the past year
> during
> > his tenure there.
>
> To be fair, WBCN's numbers were sliding even before he
> arrived. He may not have done much to revive them, but he
> didn't cause the problem.
>
Yes and no Bob,overall his numbers have remained lower than oedipus's last book (Summer 04) to be fair I can only speak to my own numbers which were big when I got out of there.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by NotoriousN-I-K on 03/20/06 03:06 PM.</FONT></P>
 
> Yes and no Bob,overall his numbers have remained lower than
> oedipus's last book (Summer 04) to be fair I can only speak
> to my own numbers which were big when I got out of there.

You were regularly getting your ass kicked by a fat guy with long hair...

You got a kiss on your last book and barely beat that guy, just like he did his last book against your replacement.

:)

WBCN was a juggernaut under Oedipus. They got greedy when grunge hit and tried to be WFNX on a bigger scale. Just like FNX tried to cop the AAF gig under Mittman. There exists ample opportunity for either Rock station to own Boston, but both have remained inconsistent. Valeri has his plan. Wellington his. And we'll see who wins.

Had WBCN remained what it was, it would be what WHJY is in Providence. And funny, that's where rock seems to be going. Homogenized. All things to all people. Boston rock stations should consider themselves lucky that neither WGIR, or WHEB have better signals in town. Those stations might be "just Manchester", or "Portsmouth", but they're both well-focused, and consistently do well. They'd pose real competition were they legitimate Boston signals.

Getting back on-topic...

It'll be interesting to see what they do with these guys if the audition goes well. Do they end up in mornings?, PM Drive?, nights (a-la Quinn & Cantara?)

This will be interesting...from afar.

:)

mmmmmm...Barbeque and tornadoes..WHOO HOOOO!
 
> > Yes and no Bob,overall his numbers have remained lower
> than
> > oedipus's last book (Summer 04) to be fair I can only
> speak
> > to my own numbers which were big when I got out of there.
>
> You were regularly getting your ass kicked by a fat guy with
> long hair...


OH!!!!!!!, what are you bored in your KC hotel room so you started experimenting with mind and REALITY altering substances?!!!

xoxoxoxox
 
> > > Yes and no Bob,overall his numbers have remained lower
> > than
> > > oedipus's last book (Summer 04) to be fair I can only
> > speak
> > > to my own numbers which were big when I got out of
> there.
> >
> > You were regularly getting your ass kicked by a fat guy
> with
> > long hair...
>
>
> OH!!!!!!!, what are you bored in your KC hotel room so you
> started experimenting with mind and REALITY altering
> substances?!!!
>
> xoxoxoxox
>


Rocko must have given Paul an incredible deal on a new Kia so he had to write something good about him
 
Steve West on WBCN Re: So Why Is BCN Auditioning?

For the curious, it would be interesting to actually HEAR Steve West
and what he brings to the table. Maybe WBCN could use a voice
from down South that's made the trek up here.



> > I've seen a couple of posts regarding a former (morning?)
> > team auditioning at night on WBCN.

> I would say Corproate directive. Wellington never would
> have brought those guys in on his own, they like to talk and
> it's well known that Wellington's programming philosophy
> does not allow for personalities to do very much of that,
> whether it is compelling content or not...he's all about
> hammering the playlist and little more which is also

Wellington made changes - you sound bitter that they didn't include
you. Fact is, if you were able to string a coherent sentence together,
you would still be on in the afternoon. With a new regime comes
new, better changes.


> reflected in the station's numbers over the past year during
> his tenure there. They're probably being auditioned for
> placeement somewhere within the chain, I hear they have
> already tried out on Free Fm in Phoenix.

Have you thought of joining the New York radio board since you
are such a player, Nik, and stick with what you know. That
shouldn't be too difficult as the files, obviously, are not overflowing.

nor are the requests for your "talent"
 
So much for Paul's revisionist history.

Oedipus didn't TRY to be WFNX, he lifted ideas from FNX as well
as jocks. WBCN was album rock until Oedi decided to go
"Modern Rock", and isn't it true that Radio & Records wanted
to see if he was bluffing and failed to put him in the "Modern
Rock" category right away?

In any event, Oedipus was only "cutting edge" on college radio.
He was almost a decent guy back then. He got a taste of the
Corporate world and decided being in Home & Garden or House Beautiful
(not a joke, some magazine allegedly had a spread on his mansion)
was more important than programming radio.


Why hasn't Clint Conley put him on Chronicle, or has he?


> > Yes and no Bob,overall his numbers have remained lower
> than
> > oedipus's last book (Summer 04) to be fair I can only
> speak
> > to my own numbers which were big when I got out of there.
>
> You were regularly getting your ass kicked by a fat guy with
> long hair...
>
> You got a kiss on your last book and barely beat that guy,
> just like he did his last book against your replacement.
>
> :)
>
> WBCN was a juggernaut under Oedipus. They got greedy when
> grunge hit and tried to be WFNX on a bigger scale. Just like
> FNX tried to cop the AAF gig under Mittman. There exists
> ample opportunity for either Rock station to own Boston, but
> both have remained inconsistent. Valeri has his plan.
> Wellington his. And we'll see who wins.
>
> Had WBCN remained what it was, it would be what WHJY is in
> Providence. And funny, that's where rock seems to be going.
> Homogenized. All things to all people. Boston rock stations
> should consider themselves lucky that neither WGIR, or WHEB
> have better signals in town. Those stations might be "just
> Manchester", or "Portsmouth", but they're both well-focused,
> and consistently do well. They'd pose real competition were
> they legitimate Boston signals.
>
> Getting back on-topic...
>
> It'll be interesting to see what they do with these guys if
> the audition goes well. Do they end up in mornings?, PM
> Drive?, nights (a-la Quinn & Cantara?)
>
> This will be interesting...from afar.
>
> :)
>
> mmmmmm...Barbeque and tornadoes..WHOO HOOOO!
>
 
> So much for Paul's revisionist history.

Sorry Joe...unlike you, I was actually working in Boston radio when it happened.

> Oedipus didn't TRY to be WFNX, he lifted ideas from FNX as
> well
> as jocks.

...I apologize. I stand corrected. He recreated FNX on a better signal.

He also did it well.

> WBCN was album rock until Oedi decided to go
> "Modern Rock", and isn't it true that Radio & Records wanted
> to see if he was bluffing and failed to put him in the
> "Modern
> Rock" category right away?

And now they report Alternative, and the corporate website lists them as "Active." I'm fairly certian what Radio & records called WBCN had less than zero to do with what Oedipus did with WBCN.

> In any event, Oedipus was only "cutting edge" on college
> radio.

Purely personal opinion. And his impact on Boston radio, and national radio history refutes your assertion more than I would ever need to.

<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Randy on 03/21/06 01:33 AM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: Steve West on WBCN Re: So Why Is BCN Auditioning?

Nik Carter has probably hooked up with more girls than you've seen naked in magazines. Hater.

As for his professional life, if anything, you should give him credit for being a professional in regard to his departure from WBCN. If I were a PM drive star on a heritage rock station in my hometown for several years, and some guy from Las Vegas came to work in my town, and took my job away, I'd have probably taught said guy a few 10 and 12 letter words on my way out the door. But Nik's kept his chin up. That's not easy.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by MassMusicMan on 03/21/06 05:30 AM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: Steve West on WBCN Re: So Why Is BCN Auditioning?

>Fact is, if you were able to string a coherent sentence together, you would still be on in the afternoon. With a new regime comes new, better changes.<

> Have you thought of joining the New York radio board since you are such a player, Nik, and stick with what you know. That shouldn't be too difficult as the files, obviously, are not overflowing.

nor are the requests for your "talent"<

What you never seem to understand, Joe, is that crap like this says a whole lot more about you than it does about your intended targets. Truly pathetic.
 
Re: Steve West on WBCN Re: So Why Is BCN Auditioning?

> For the curious, it would be interesting to actually HEAR
> Steve West
> and what he brings to the table. Maybe WBCN could use a
> voice
> from down South that's made the trek up here.
>
>
>
> > > I've seen a couple of posts regarding a former
> (morning?)
> > > team auditioning at night on WBCN.
>
> > I would say Corproate directive. Wellington never would
> > have brought those guys in on his own, they like to talk
> and
> > it's well known that Wellington's programming philosophy
> > does not allow for personalities to do very much of that,
> > whether it is compelling content or not...he's all about
> > hammering the playlist and little more which is also
>
> Wellington made changes - you sound bitter that they didn't
> include
> you. Fact is, if you were able to string a coherent
> sentence together,
> you would still be on in the afternoon. With a new regime
> comes
> new, better changes.
>
>
> > reflected in the station's numbers over the past year
> during
> > his tenure there. They're probably being auditioned for
> > placeement somewhere within the chain, I hear they have
> > already tried out on Free Fm in Phoenix.
>
> Have you thought of joining the New York radio board since
> you
> are such a player, Nik, and stick with what you know. That
> shouldn't be too difficult as the files, obviously, are not
> overflowing.
>
> nor are the requests for your "talent"
>

Joe - your a dick - plain and simple. Your bitter and jealous, it's so easy to read - it's frightening.

Mods - If I get banned for this comment - it was worth it!

Roach
 
> So much for Paul's revisionist history.
>
> Oedipus didn't TRY to be WFNX, he lifted ideas from FNX as
> well
> as jocks. WBCN was album rock until Oedi decided to go
> "Modern Rock", and isn't it true that Radio & Records wanted
>
> to see if he was bluffing and failed to put him in the
> "Modern
> Rock" category right away?
>
> In any event, Oedipus was only "cutting edge" on college
> radio.
> He was almost a decent guy back then. He got a taste of the
>
> Corporate world and decided being in Home & Garden or House
> Beautiful
> (not a joke, some magazine allegedly had a spread on his
> mansion)
> was more important than programming radio.
>
>
> Why hasn't Clint Conley put him on Chronicle, or has he?
>
>
> > > Yes and no Bob,overall his numbers have remained lower
> > than
> > > oedipus's last book (Summer 04) to be fair I can only
> > speak
> > > to my own numbers which were big when I got out of
> there.
> >
> > You were regularly getting your ass kicked by a fat guy
> with
> > long hair...
> >
> > You got a kiss on your last book and barely beat that guy,
>
> > just like he did his last book against your replacement.
> >
> > :)
> >
> > WBCN was a juggernaut under Oedipus. They got greedy when
> > grunge hit and tried to be WFNX on a bigger scale. Just
> like
> > FNX tried to cop the AAF gig under Mittman. There exists
> > ample opportunity for either Rock station to own Boston,
> but
> > both have remained inconsistent. Valeri has his plan.
> > Wellington his. And we'll see who wins.
> >
> > Had WBCN remained what it was, it would be what WHJY is in
>
> > Providence. And funny, that's where rock seems to be
> going.
> > Homogenized. All things to all people. Boston rock
> stations
> > should consider themselves lucky that neither WGIR, or
> WHEB
> > have better signals in town. Those stations might be "just
>
> > Manchester", or "Portsmouth", but they're both
> well-focused,
> > and consistently do well. They'd pose real competition
> were
> > they legitimate Boston signals.
> >
> > Getting back on-topic...
> >
> > It'll be interesting to see what they do with these guys
> if
> > the audition goes well. Do they end up in mornings?, PM
> > Drive?, nights (a-la Quinn & Cantara?)
> >
> > This will be interesting...from afar.
> >
> > :)
> >
> > mmmmmm...Barbeque and tornadoes..WHOO HOOOO!
> >
>
Jesus Joe! say what you want about Oedipus (they guy had faults) - but he was one of the most successful PDs in Boston Radio.

What have you done in radio over the past 20 years? In comparison to Oedipus - nothing. . .

Your way out in left field on this one Joe. Maybe you should stick to a topic you know - Radio is definitely not your expertise.

Roach
 
Yo, Twitch... whatcha been up to since I left?

-West<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
 
Re: Steve West on WBCN Re: So Why Is BCN Auditioning?

Um, Joe, I'm flattered.. but frankly not WBCN material. WKLB maybe. But, that said, I'm sure you didn't intend to pay me a compliment, just diss some folks at 'BCN. Well.... thanks, but not at their expense, please.

Does anyone see the humor in this, LOL

> For the curious, it would be interesting to actually HEAR
> Steve West
> and what he brings to the table. Maybe WBCN could use a
> voice
> from down South that's made the trek up here.

Naa.. how about a British female. I believe Peter Wolf (was that his name) did radio at WAAF and a few other stations with that thick London accent, and it just sounded awesome. So, maybe someone could bring in a female voice with that London sound... can you just imagine?

Wait a minute... what's wrong with the jocks on WBCN now?<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
 
Re: Steve West on WBCN Re: So Why Is BCN Auditioning?

> Naa.. how about a British female. I believe Peter Wolf (was
> that his name) did radio at WAAF and a few other stations
> with that thick London accent, and it just sounded awesome.

That was Andrew Wolf. He was also on 'BCN, among others.

Not to mention many years at Boston College's WZBC.

Don't know what became of him.
 
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