Got this notice today from AM 1260 in Washington. This is one of the many Clear Channel radio stations that is participating in "Next Progressive Talk Star" promotion, which appears to be collective effort by Clear Channel, Jones, and the Center the American Progress. Sounds like a good chance to win $1,000.
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So You Want to be a Talk Show Host
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Radio_Realist
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Are liberals allowed to enter that contest?
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fred flintstone
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barooosk said:
The liberal-progressive rant - AGAIN!
I read someplace, "Life is too short to stay in any one place very long."
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Gnarlodious
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My best guess is you'd have to be at least a quasi-liberal to be on par with Big Ed.Radio_Realist said:
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evnlee
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barooosk said:
1000$ as a prize? That's 622$ after taxes! Considering they use only the top 20 markets this whole 'talent search' costs Cheap Channel,Jones, and CAP 20 grand, if they pay up.
I would be wary of a 'Center for American Progress' that offers such a pitiful prize. :
If that's what you get for winning the local contest, what would the overall prize be?
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fred flintstone
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Sincerity. If you can fake that, you've got it made.
George Burns said sincerity is the secret of acting.
It's also the secret of talk radio.
Some people here have said talk show hosts must sincerely believe the political views they express because they couldn't fake it for three hours a day, five days a week.
These are people themselves committed to and passionate about their political beliefs.
They don't appreciate what a cynical, disinterested, self-absorbed and hypocritical bunch radio people are.
Radio people take an almost infantile joy in their ability to lie convincingly, to sell schlock and to fool people - on the air and off the air.
Radio Racket is an online audio program, a spin-off of a right-wing message board, which is streamed very Friday night with radio people talking about radio to other radio people.
One regular participant is a former QVC Shopping Channel host and Infomercial pitchman named [EDIT]
He left his last radio gig some three years ago and continues to do some home shopping and infomercial work.
He called in to the show to announce that while he "hates liberals" he has sent his demo in to the progressive talk "star search" contest, with one of his bits (he does clever song parodies and voices).
He is typical of radio people who work various formats and don't think you have to like the music or the audience - and of pitchmen, who don't think you need to believe in the product.
Can this guy sell political opinions he claims to hate on the basis of being a clever radio guy?
Stay tuned.
Local stations are announcing their finalists Monday.
Some are letting people listen to the demos and vote online. Other stations are holding caucuses in which listeners (any who want to attend, or some selected at random) can come and be judges.
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George Burns said sincerity is the secret of acting.
It's also the secret of talk radio.
Some people here have said talk show hosts must sincerely believe the political views they express because they couldn't fake it for three hours a day, five days a week.
These are people themselves committed to and passionate about their political beliefs.
They don't appreciate what a cynical, disinterested, self-absorbed and hypocritical bunch radio people are.
Radio people take an almost infantile joy in their ability to lie convincingly, to sell schlock and to fool people - on the air and off the air.
Radio Racket is an online audio program, a spin-off of a right-wing message board, which is streamed very Friday night with radio people talking about radio to other radio people.
One regular participant is a former QVC Shopping Channel host and Infomercial pitchman named [EDIT]
He left his last radio gig some three years ago and continues to do some home shopping and infomercial work.
He called in to the show to announce that while he "hates liberals" he has sent his demo in to the progressive talk "star search" contest, with one of his bits (he does clever song parodies and voices).
He is typical of radio people who work various formats and don't think you have to like the music or the audience - and of pitchmen, who don't think you need to believe in the product.
Can this guy sell political opinions he claims to hate on the basis of being a clever radio guy?
Stay tuned.
Local stations are announcing their finalists Monday.
Some are letting people listen to the demos and vote online. Other stations are holding caucuses in which listeners (any who want to attend, or some selected at random) can come and be judges.
[EDIT-[privacy concerns]
Clarification
The program is in no way a spin-off of anything, except in some ways (a few concepts, and of course my involvement) of the previous terrestrial radio versions. Upon launching the webcast, we were about to create an supplemental message board (to talk about the show, so we wouldn't have to clog other good forums like this one). Gary at PhillyTalk was nice enough to offer us free hosting of a custom made board. Seemed like a no-brainer.
Fred, the quote was, "I hate liberals, I hate conservatives!"
His point being that his agenda wouldn't be a political point-of-view, but merely an agenda of entertainment. Or at least that's how I heard it.
I don't believe Steve has any intent of doing that in the first place (selling opinions he claims to hate). The key is entertainment. Many liberals/"progressives" (and to be fair, some conservatives and libertarians) still fail to get this, which may explain why there's no "liberal Limbaugh" yet.
The program is in no way a spin-off of anything, except in some ways (a few concepts, and of course my involvement) of the previous terrestrial radio versions. Upon launching the webcast, we were about to create an supplemental message board (to talk about the show, so we wouldn't have to clog other good forums like this one). Gary at PhillyTalk was nice enough to offer us free hosting of a custom made board. Seemed like a no-brainer.
Fred, the quote was, "I hate liberals, I hate conservatives!"
His point being that his agenda wouldn't be a political point-of-view, but merely an agenda of entertainment. Or at least that's how I heard it.
I don't believe Steve has any intent of doing that in the first place (selling opinions he claims to hate). The key is entertainment. Many liberals/"progressives" (and to be fair, some conservatives and libertarians) still fail to get this, which may explain why there's no "liberal Limbaugh" yet.
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fred flintstone
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Re: Clarification
Thank you for confirming that this individual, who has made his living lying to little old ladies to enrich people like Ron Popeil did, in deed, say he hates liberals. This infomercial shill first talked about his hatred for liberals, and then seeming to realize he may have said too much, modified his statement to seeming diapproval of ideology-driven talk radio.
While Rush strives to be entertaining, what he does is an entertaining conservative political talk show. The contest which Steve Bryant says he has entered is one to find entertaining progressive political talk hosts. It was interesting that Bryant also digressed into the same liberal-progressive rant (accusing progressives of being afraid to call themselves liberals) which some right-wing posters have started at various times on this board.
His participation as "moderator" of a right-wing message board, his association with the group of angry and hostile reactionaries who run it, and a succession of posts on that board expressing right-wing viewpoints and containing shots at liberals makes his positions quite clear.
People who work in and manage progressive talk radio read this board. They can go to the Philly Talk board and review Steve Bryant's posts for themselves.
Bryant, from his comments, seems also not to have even read the details of the contest. Maybe he just failed to get his facts right. Possibly after all those years in home shopping television, he has lost the ability to separate true and false. Currently what is being held are local contests at various Clear Channel progressive talk stations. Local finalists will be announced in most markets this week. Then a local winner will be selected in each market who will compete in a national contest.
Probably there are others who have worked in radio and are currently not employeed who will use this contest in an attempt to sneak back into the biz. Some of them may even try to disguise their true opinions because (like Dustin Hoffman in Tootsie) they "need the work."
I am sure people on this board will checking station websites this week as other local semi-finanlists are announced to out any other Trojan Horses.
Thank you for confirming that this individual, who has made his living lying to little old ladies to enrich people like Ron Popeil did, in deed, say he hates liberals. This infomercial shill first talked about his hatred for liberals, and then seeming to realize he may have said too much, modified his statement to seeming diapproval of ideology-driven talk radio.
While Rush strives to be entertaining, what he does is an entertaining conservative political talk show. The contest which Steve Bryant says he has entered is one to find entertaining progressive political talk hosts. It was interesting that Bryant also digressed into the same liberal-progressive rant (accusing progressives of being afraid to call themselves liberals) which some right-wing posters have started at various times on this board.
His participation as "moderator" of a right-wing message board, his association with the group of angry and hostile reactionaries who run it, and a succession of posts on that board expressing right-wing viewpoints and containing shots at liberals makes his positions quite clear.
People who work in and manage progressive talk radio read this board. They can go to the Philly Talk board and review Steve Bryant's posts for themselves.
Bryant, from his comments, seems also not to have even read the details of the contest. Maybe he just failed to get his facts right. Possibly after all those years in home shopping television, he has lost the ability to separate true and false. Currently what is being held are local contests at various Clear Channel progressive talk stations. Local finalists will be announced in most markets this week. Then a local winner will be selected in each market who will compete in a national contest.
Probably there are others who have worked in radio and are currently not employeed who will use this contest in an attempt to sneak back into the biz. Some of them may even try to disguise their true opinions because (like Dustin Hoffman in Tootsie) they "need the work."
I am sure people on this board will checking station websites this week as other local semi-finanlists are announced to out any other Trojan Horses.
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TheRadioPolice
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Fred,
I am neither a conservative or a liberal, but rather an issues-oriented person. I hate anyone who has a pre-defined agenda. I have never made more than 5% of my income from radio in any year, so, according to their rules, I qualify.
I have never lied on-air, to little old ladies or anyone else. For you to suggest otherwise...let me just say you better have proof, you're going to be called upon to produce it this week.
And there was no backpeddling in my statement, as you suggest. I have always said, on-air and in person, I hate liberals and I hate conservatives. I just pity you.
Is this the best you can come up with?
Steve Bryant
I am neither a conservative or a liberal, but rather an issues-oriented person. I hate anyone who has a pre-defined agenda. I have never made more than 5% of my income from radio in any year, so, according to their rules, I qualify.
I have never lied on-air, to little old ladies or anyone else. For you to suggest otherwise...let me just say you better have proof, you're going to be called upon to produce it this week.
And there was no backpeddling in my statement, as you suggest. I have always said, on-air and in person, I hate liberals and I hate conservatives. I just pity you.
Is this the best you can come up with?
Steve Bryant
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fred flintstone
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It is telling of the lack of integrity in the broadcasting industry and in many (if not most) people who work in broadcasting that the kind of false or unsubstantiated claims and promises, hype, spin, exaggeration, distortion and Clintonesque half truths endemic in infomercials, home shopping programs, broadcast advertising and broadcast promotion are not seen as lying.
I'm sorry you have not found a place in radio where you could make good use of your obvious talent and passion for the medium. That is very telling about the current state of the broadcasting industry, as well.
I'm sorry you have not found a place in radio where you could make good use of your obvious talent and passion for the medium. That is very telling about the current state of the broadcasting industry, as well.
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