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So, you're Mr. Citadel/Memphis...

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So, I was sitting around this morning, thinking deep thoughts, as Professors are apt to do. And, I began to ponder the following:

Let’s pretend, arguendo, that you are the leader at Citidel/Memphis, holed up in an office by the railroad tracks out East (choooo, choooooo!). Let’s also assume you have a stable of 4 stations, 2 of which are underperforming. Like everyone else, you have read that CBS is selling its Memphis properties to Entercom. Your mind begins to wander, as you sip your steaming cup of overpriced Starbucks...

You conclude that Entercom will NOT see the need to keep 94.1 AC. It would be silly, you internally opine, to be stacked 3 deep in a format. It is likely, you therefore conclude, that 94 will flip, and that will likely be soon – perhaps as early as the initiation of the LMA.

You look at this Board, and listen to the peons* around you. While Country is far from being a home run guess as to the change, we have to at least prepare for an attack on Kix106, the group’s cash cow (you snicker to yourself at your cleverness – “country” and “cow” in the same sentence. “No wonder I am the leader, if I can turn a phrase like that,” you whisper to yourself. Siiiip… OK, back to the issue at hand).

So, what is a high-powered radio executive to do? You concentrate, fortified by the caffeine you have been main-lining. “Do I sit and wait for the attack, or do I go on the offensive? Perhaps it would be smart to jettison the format on one of my losers – most likely 98.9 – and attack myself. It would be silly, one might think, for Entercom to enter the fray as the THIRD country signal in town. Also, 98.9 is a full 100kW, with a transmitter at WKNO, an advantage over the 94 signal. If there are going to be two countries, I want both of them to be me. A smart executive – and gosh, I am one (sip) – would attempt preemption.”

So, what do you think. Is Citadel circumspect enough to think this way and preempt a format challenge to 106? There is a narrow window of opportunity here, perhaps just over a month. Will the pieces on the chess board start moving sooner than later?

See? Deep thoughts.

-Prof.

*Did you know that the word “peons” comes from the Spanish, meaning those who walk? It was a sign of breeding, wealth and nobility to own a horse.
 
Whether they would go that far is less than sure, though it's a very interesting question, and a fun post to read. But... they are thinkin' over there.

Check: www.941thewolf.com See where it takes you.

If I were Kix, I would also get memphiswolf.com (which is seemingly available). The new Seattle Wolf (100.7) is seattlewolf.com.

But GOOD for Kix. That's fun!

DE
 
> What show would they syndicate in?

Interesting question. If Citadel were to be first out of the gates with Country, Rick & Bubba might be something they look to. They fly it like the flag in Birmingham (though on an AC).

Professor's question is an interesting one. But, he neglects one thing. Now that Entercom has secured 100, and they feel pretty comfortable they will soon be married to FM100, there is really no point in keeping 94 AC. If a change is to come (and, obviously, I can't speak for the folks in Ridgeway Center), what is the point in waiting?

If I were sitting in an office on Murray Road or in Ridgeway Center, I would be making some quick decisions before they are made for me. But, as they say, I don't have a dog in this fight.

DE
 
OK, let's think waaay outside the box. I am not privy to the $$$ FM 100 brings in, but if it's substantially down...what would Kix do if there was suddenly a 300 KW competitor with hertiage calls?

Now Entercom would have both a strong AC and a megapower country station...and 94 could take up the Fm 100 slack.

Just thinkin'

...but that hinges on the income of FM 100 and I suppose it' still pretty good.
 
radiosaur said:
OK, let's think waaay outside the box. I am not privy to the $$$ FM 100 brings in, but if it's substantially down...what would Kix do if there was suddenly a 300 KW competitor with hertiage calls?

Now Entercom would have both a strong AC and a megapower country station...and 94 could take up the Fm 100 slack.

Just thinkin'

...but that hinges on the income of FM 100 and I suppose it' still pretty good.

Were one of the mind to try and nuke KIX, flipping 100 would be the boldest move on the battlefield.

That is, were one of the mind...

Question is, would it work? Or is the KIX bond with its listeners impervious to such an attack?
 
So, 'Saur, what you're saying is:

Blow up a property with a 30 year heritage, has #1 ratings with Women, is a station that out cumes it's competition by 50%, and is a Top 3 biller...to save a station that is not even in the Top 10 in it's target demo, and is billing about half what FM100 is, and to make a move that is uncertain at best against KIX? 300,000 watts doesn't mean much if you start fresh with it.

WRVR and FM 100 and a new country station are a huge combo, WRVR, WMBZ, and a new country station are not as strong.

Trust me, if and when Entercom blows up the Buzz to make room, there is no guarantee that their listeners would automatically move to FM 100, and vice versa.

Along the same lines, why not blow up WRVR for Country and move FM 100 more AC? After all, WRVR has demos that would LOVE country, and might not tune out if they flip. It's the same argument...and not a good one.
 
I tend to agree that blowing up FM100 is not the first choice, but if the Buzz listeners don't go to 100 after it's gone, where will they go, unless you make 93X a Buzz clone? Q107.5? Who knows if they will make it to December?

Just a thought...
 
I'm no "Professer", nor "collector of academic degrees", or anything, but I believe to blow WRVR OR FM100 up will never be an option. I present this scenario for the new cluster...
Leave 'RVR ALONE! Don't fix what ain't broke. (Maybe dump "M&M" for "Somebody & Karen" in AM)
Tweek the format of FM100 more toward the successful "whatever" weekends,
(there will OBVIOuSLY be some, if not quite a few or all personel changes, we all know it!)
You will than have virtually any AC audience wrapped up in your cluster.
This leaves you 2 FM signals in town
(my gosh, you'll have to think of something to do with all the HD bands, too-right? Won't that be like 14 stations altogether? The mind boggles)
Anyway, whichever is the strongest, put KIX's country competition on it, make it more live and more local than KIX and take a run at them. A mix of Today's Country and some true classic oldies-perfect!
With the leftover FM you can go with some type of alternative format on it. (Please...NO HIP/HOP)
Leave the Classic/Old standards Country on 79.
Put Perry and Frank and the gang back on 680.
Now you've offered SOMETHING to almost everybody that's not searching for something urban.
Leave the risky things like FM talks and all sports radio for someone else to try.
 
Delta King said:
You may also want to check out http://www.929thewolf.com. Goes the same place as the other one. There is no 997thewolf.com. Citadel is not stupid.
intresting..... why not 94.1 though... 92.9s primary signal doesnt cover some of the important areas well... city grade misses all of desoto county... germantown, arlington & collierville
http://www.recnet.com/cdbs/goo_curves.php?data=35.172|89.944|6|100|60|14487|225|0|1

where 94.1 city grades the whole city Bartlett, Germantown,Collierville, and Desoto County (80% or more)
http://www.recnet.com/cdbs/goo_curves.php?data=34.989|89.862|50|144|60|14264|231|0|1
 
How about everyone calm down and think for once?

Entercom has already put WAY too much time and thought into this move. The FM 100 people are the staff that seem to be the ONE/FIRST target for the move. Ron, Steve, Karen and Tom make way too much for too little ratings.

They will flip 100 without the help or opinion of Larry Wheeler, Paul Hankins, Mike Bratton, Kay Manley, Tom Nichols or Kit Cason/Chris Baskind.

Please shut up and let the professionals and not the retired/part time/suck ups/unemployed change the market.
 
Interesting discussion. i'd love to hear something different than KIX. Mix live recordings with studio and more stuff from early 90's. i think kraddick could work with country. if not, 107.5 should pick him up.
 
I guess everyone is thinking that the "white" stations are the ones that could be most embattled?

Why is Hallelujah so untouchable? I get that it's probably harder to get advertisers on board, but going through the local Shepherd's Guide would be a good start. Praise FM (94.9), before the KLOVE Empire takeover, was starting to get a real audience. You get a person that can program that format and add in some dogged sales reps (the biggest weakness of Praise FM)....all I'm saying is it's possible.
 
BookerT said:
How about everyone calm down and think for once?

Entercom has already put WAY too much time and thought into this move. The FM 100 people are the staff that seem to be the ONE/FIRST target for the move. Ron, Steve, Karen and Tom make way too much for too little ratings.

They will flip 100 without the help or opinion of Larry Wheeler, Paul Hankins, Mike Bratton, Kay Manley, Tom Nichols or Kit Cason/Chris Baskind.

Please shut up and let the professionals and not the retired/part time/suck ups/unemployed change the market.

Booker is half right, Entercom has put a lot of thought into this move. But, the facts are the facts, FM 100 outperforms The Buzz on all levels, expecially revenue. Thats what matters. If they run the risk of losing dollar one with a format flip, it ain't gonna happen. Yes, Ron, Steve, and Tom all make quite a bit of $$$, but they also bring in a ton of $$$ with live spots, etc. It all balances out.

To look at RMarino's scenario, CHR may be the stupidest choice for any of the signals. We're so CHR heavy here it's nuts, why add another one? Unless it's Ghetto Rap, it won't draw flies (see 107.5).

Yes, far too many folks post what they'd LIKE to see, rather than what will probably happen. No offense to anyone at Entercom currently, but there may be as many folks out the door there as a result of this as there will be on Union. No one is safe anywhere, including WRVR, and definately at WMBZ. Most folks on here advocating FM100 flipping format are most likely saying it to protect their own interests, and would love to see this as a way to eliminate the competition. That's not how deals like this work. Entercom will put the strongest peices together, make a tweak or two to each, and figure out what to do with the rest. Heritage AC+Heritage Hot AC=$$$$. As David Field said on his call Monday, this is two halves of a logical cluster. If they already had a logical cluster, they would not have made this deal.

I've already talked with some friends on Union, and there are some nervous nellies (especially on the side of the building facing Union), but amazingly some folks on the programming side are elated.

No offense, but if the gang on Ridgeway Center wanted to facilitate a format flip on FM 100, they could have done one thing to make it happen...beat them with The Buzz. Now, it's too late. FM 100 is a much stronger station than they were 2 years ago, and WMBZ is struggling. Besides, FM 100 even had a higher share with PERSONS 25-54 than WRVR in the last book. Yeah, Entercom can't wait to fix that problem...

I'm done for today. Flame away, minions.
 
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