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Someone Claims To Have *THE* Answer To Make HD Work

diymedia said:
Radio World just published a lengthy op-ed from iBiquity's "chief scientist," who thoroughly disses the DPR scheme:

http://www.radioworld.com/article/kroeger-dpr-mods-won’t-help-hd-radio/218787

The plot thickens! Anyone going to the NAB Show who can report back on what develops from that?
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I would bet this is either a publicity scheme dreamed up by Strubie's minions or just a fortuitous development for them to exploit.

You gotta read Carstair's comment at the end, haha!
 
Yeah, wasn't he the guy who was WMGM's "Mad Daddy" with the googly eyes back in the early 1960s? :D

(I refer to the 50kw NYC station, not the later teapot New Jersey FM.)
 
Savage said:
Yeah, wasn't he the guy who was WMGM's "Mad Daddy" with the googly eyes back in the early 1960s? :D

(I refer to the 50kw NYC station, not the later teapot New Jersey FM.)
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"Mad Daddy" was Pete Myers. Pete replaced Alan Freed at 850, Cleveland when Alan left for WINS. Shortly afterwards, Pete went to Metromedia's Cleveland 1420. Year later he was transferred to the Legendary WNEW 1130, New York. Did a few years there and jumped to 1010 WINS, adopted his "Mad Daddy" persona and followed Murray the K at 10 PM. Incredible personality! WINS was in process of being "Westinghouse-ized". Mr. Myers' 10-Midnight slot was filled by extending Murray's show to 10:30 and running the telephone talk "Contact" show from 10:30 until 12M. Pete went back to WNEW and worked there several more years. November 1968 WNEW decided to move him from his afternoon slot to evenings...

He took his own life...

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Let me begin by saying IBOC, in it's current deployment, on the AM band is not fixable. Even if you choose to ignore the interference issues the audio quality is not acceptable. You can sunset analog on the AM band, which would fix the adjacent channel interference issues but that still does not address low bit rate audio artifacts.
I finally bought a HD radio for the truck last month. It's a Pioneer ???, cost around $100. I'm very impressed by the difference in analog versus HD. The difference is really noticeable on sports and news/talk formats - the noise floor drops dramatically when the radio goes IBOC -- especially downtown where the signals are usually coughing up blood due to multipath.
I have had IBOC radios of different types for years and have never been impressed with HD radio. But using a decent IBOC tuner in a mobile environment highlights the real improvement IBOC offers for FM service. I think the improvement is worthwhile and the technology, while far from perfect, at least acceptable (for FM.)
The FCC should sunset all analog FM broadcasting to eliminate the interference issue. It may be possible to create up to
8 - 10 channels once analog is gone.
Back to the drawing board for AM. Code stripping must mature further to acomodate narrow bandwidth AM channels. Maybe a hybrid approach like Kahn was working on? DRM?
 
The FCC will never give away spectrum space for free to profit-making radio companies. The give-away happened once, and that's it.

The FCC is now in the business of selling spectrum to telecom companies. My theory is that they will wait for the profit-making radio companies to abandon their frequencies, and then create a non-profit space for minorities and non-profit radio companies.
 
iyiyi said:
"Mad Daddy" was Pete Myers. Pete replaced Alan Freed at 850, Cleveland when Alan left for WINS. Shortly afterwards, Pete went to Metromedia's Cleveland 1420. Year later he was transferred to the Legendary WNEW 1130, New York. Did a few years there and jumped to 1010 WINS, adopted his "Mad Daddy" persona and followed Murray the K at 10 PM.
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And the early 70's paperback novel, "D J", was loosely based on Pete Myers, Mike Joseph and an amalgamation of early 60's PDs from New York.
 
I made the mistake of buying a Visteon HD Jump add-on HD tuner; FM works decent and selectivity is good, BUT the AM section is the pits. Noise, weird DSP algorythms going haywire on marginal AM signals that are clearly receivable on the analog car radio. Also, the antenna jack connection is very touchy for the AM band. Hot enough to make your own toast on the way to work in the morning too.
It's a close but no cigar. Fix the AM with AMAX stereo and AM sensitivity at least as good as the factory radio and that would be a start, along with some better heat dissapation.
 
taylorengineer said:
The FCC should sunset all analog FM broadcasting to eliminate the interference issue. It may be possible to create up to 8 - 10 channels once analog is gone.
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So, let's see if we have this straight: You propose to turn off the analog stations where all the money is made, then you'd utterly destroy the entire economic basis for the FM band by explosively expanding the number of channels available.

You'd be a big hit with station owners. Not.
 
Wow, thanks, guys for the info on Pete "Mad Daddy" Myers! Many years ago I read "DJ" ... talk about a sensationalistic potboiler. But so accurate in describing the frequent trajectory of small-town talent suddenly catapulted into major-market radio! I did enjoy all the inside-baseball subplot with the unionized engineers deliberately wowing in records as a protest against the debut of cart machines. And the groupies and drugs.....a fun read, probably enjoyed by about fourteen readers outside of the radio industry.

Does anyone recall the author? I'm sure a copy could be dug up online somewhere....
 
Savage said:
Wow, thanks, guys for the info on Pete "Mad Daddy" Myers! Many years ago I read "DJ" ... talk about a sensationalistic potboiler. But so accurate in describing the frequent trajectory of small-town talent suddenly catapulted into major-market radio! I did enjoy all the inside-baseball subplot with the unionized engineers deliberately wowing in records as a protest against the debut of cart machines. And the groupies and drugs.....a fun read, probably enjoyed by about fourteen readers outside of the radio industry.

Does anyone recall the author? I'm sure a copy could be dug up online somewhere....
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Allyn Jeffries and Bill Owen...both staff announcers for ABC. Bill Owen was also one of the original "Swingin' Seven at 77" when WABC changed to top-40 in 1960.
 
taylorengineer said:
The FCC should sunset all analog FM broadcasting to eliminate the interference issue. It may be possible to create up to
8 - 10 channels once analog is gone.
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Except that HD occupies twice the bandwidth of an analog signal. Even now in hybrid mode it doesn't work in crowded markets.

Dave B.
 
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