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Man...the playlist so far today on KIOL has blown...not to mention the signal inside my building. If they are trying to get me to go check out 97.5 news, its working, nice signal, interesting talk. But no no, they screwed that up too, what the hell is going on when Wendy Miller is talking/rapping to the tune of a Gwen Stefani song trying to get us to follow her to 103.7....I mean come on...she sounds like a crack fiend...

I surely hope this Fletch everyone speaks highly of makes the fill good enough that its worth sitting through another round of the same 70's music we've heard for that last 7 years just to hear what he does next, heh.

Its just sad, its like KIOL isn't even trying. I thought 93.7 had this genre pretty well covered....SEND HELP, THE SHIP IS SINKING!@#!@#
 
> Man...the playlist so far today on KIOL has blown...not to
> mention the signal inside my building. If they are trying to
> get me to go check out 97.5 news, its working, nice signal,
> interesting talk. But no no, they screwed that up too, what
> the hell is going on when Wendy Miller is talking/rapping to
> the tune of a Gwen Stefani song trying to get us to follow
> her to 103.7....I mean come on...she sounds like a crack
> fiend...
>
> I surely hope this Fletch everyone speaks highly of makes
> the fill good enough that its worth sitting through another
> round of the same 70's music we've heard for that last 7
> years just to hear what he does next, heh.
>
> Its just sad, its like KIOL isn't even trying. I thought
> 93.7 had this genre pretty well covered....SEND HELP, THE
> SHIP IS SINKING!@#!@#
>

We can refer you to a nice substance abuse location, if you like.

Seriously, I noticed the 103.7 signal go completely off a couple of times. But I don't have any complaints about the music. I guess the "all Slipknot, all the time" crowd is pi$$ed off.
 
> > Man...the playlist so far today on KIOL has blown...not to
> > mention the signal inside my building. If they are trying to
> > get me to go check out 97.5 news, its working, nice signal,
> > interesting talk. But no no, they screwed that up too, what
> > the hell is going on when Wendy Miller is talking/rapping to
> > the tune of a Gwen Stefani song trying to get us to follow
> > her to 103.7....I mean come on...she sounds like a crack
> > fiend...
> >
> > I surely hope this Fletch everyone speaks highly of makes
> > the fill good enough that its worth sitting through another
> > round of the same 70's music we've heard for that last 7
> > years just to hear what he does next, heh.
> >
> > Its just sad, its like KIOL isn't even trying. I thought
> > 93.7 had this genre pretty well covered....SEND HELP, THE
> > SHIP IS SINKING!@#!@#
> >
>
> We can refer you to a nice substance abuse location, if you
> like.
>
> Seriously, I noticed the 103.7 signal go completely off a
> couple of times. But I don't have any complaints about the
> music. I guess the "all Slipknot, all the time" crowd is
> pi$$ed off.
>
I have noticed KIOL 103.7 go off the air a few times and they have definiitly dropped the power for a short time on numberous occasions. The Engineers are still tweaking KIOL for the maximum signal into Houston. The problem is KIOL is a rimshot, licensed to LaPorte or not, the signal is is a little over 65 miles from the Senior Road antenna farm. The station is always going to have the problems that a rimshot into Houston has faced. There is no changing the physics of FM and distance and power and antenna height.

KFNC is going to be a very good station, except being on 97.5 gives them little hope of success with the poor signal on the road, forget about inside highrises. It is a shame, Houston needs a station like KFNC to shake up the Clear Channel KTRH and KPRC Talkers. It might even cause CC to bring the news back to KTRH. Unless a miracle happens and people put up with the usually bad signal of KFNC on the road and the station starts to draw some ratings in three months, I don't see CC being overly concerned.

The other problem is the tropo has been brutal this summer and totaly wipes out KFNC and even KIOL. If someone turns to KFNC for news and talk and gets Country instead from Corpus Christi, chances are they will not be back at 97.5 again.

I know CW said "the separation tables will be revised when I'm in hell wearing snow shoes" and I'm sure he is 100% correct. CW I do not want your demise, but could you arrange a few hour visit to hell and bring a Buffalo blizzard with you? Then return back home safe and sound and have those separation tables changed?

Has the FCC ever granted waivers to the separation tables in situations like KFNC and KIOL?

Musically I like a good amount of music on KIOL, but the oldies are being over played, especially when there is more than a few songs that were big hits by many groups/artists that KIOL is playing to death. They need to branch out and play all the hits, not just a few. KIOL has a huge library of music to pull from and you shouldn't hear the same oldie more than once every other day.

I am disappointed, I foolishly had hoped that when KIOL went from 97.5 to 103.7 that the Imaging would improve and the music list would expand and more new music would be played. Just call me a dumbass for thinking anything was going to change. I hope that Fletch will make some drastic changes to the Imaging of KIOL, it sure needs to be done.

Mike O
 
> Seriously, I noticed the 103.7 signal go completely off a
> couple of times. But I don't have any complaints about the
> music. I guess the "all Slipknot, all the time" crowd is
> pi$$ed off.

Yeah, and I'm one of those pissed off people.
 
> > > Man...the playlist so far today on KIOL has blown...not
> to
> > > mention the signal inside my building. If they are
> trying to
> > > get me to go check out 97.5 news, its working, nice
> signal,
> > > interesting talk. But no no, they screwed that up too,
> what
> > > the hell is going on when Wendy Miller is
> talking/rapping to
> > > the tune of a Gwen Stefani song trying to get us to
> follow
> > > her to 103.7....I mean come on...she sounds like a crack
>
> > > fiend...
> > >
> > > I surely hope this Fletch everyone speaks highly of
> makes
> > > the fill good enough that its worth sitting through
> another
> > > round of the same 70's music we've heard for that last 7
>
> > > years just to hear what he does next, heh.
> > >
> > > Its just sad, its like KIOL isn't even trying. I thought
>
> > > 93.7 had this genre pretty well covered....SEND HELP,
> THE
> > > SHIP IS SINKING!@#!@#
> > >
> >
> > We can refer you to a nice substance abuse location, if
> you
> > like.
> >
> > Seriously, I noticed the 103.7 signal go completely off a
> > couple of times. But I don't have any complaints about
> the
> > music. I guess the "all Slipknot, all the time" crowd is
> > pi$$ed off.
> >
> I have noticed KIOL 103.7 go off the air a few times and
> they have definiitly dropped the power for a short time on
> numberous occasions. The Engineers are still tweaking KIOL
> for the maximum signal into Houston. The problem is KIOL is
> a rimshot, licensed to LaPorte or not, the signal is is a
> little over 65 miles from the Senior Road antenna farm. The
> station is always going to have the problems that a rimshot
> into Houston has faced. There is no changing the physics of
> FM and distance and power and antenna height.
>
> KFNC is going to be a very good station, except being on
> 97.5 gives them little hope of success with the poor signal
> on the road, forget about inside highrises. It is a shame,
> Houston needs a station like KFNC to shake up the Clear
> Channel KTRH and KPRC Talkers. It might even cause CC to
> bring the news back to KTRH. Unless a miracle happens and
> people put up with the usually bad signal of KFNC on the
> road and the station starts to draw some ratings in three
> months, I don't see CC being overly concerned.
>
> The other problem is the tropo has been brutal this summer
> and totaly wipes out KFNC and even KIOL. If someone turns
> to KFNC for news and talk and gets Country instead from
> Corpus Christi, chances are they will not be back at 97.5
> again.
>
> I know CW said "the separation tables will be revised when
> I'm in hell wearing snow shoes" and I'm sure he is 100%
> correct. CW I do not want your demise, but could you
> arrange a few hour visit to hell and bring a Buffalo
> blizzard with you? Then return back home safe and sound and
> have those separation tables changed?
>
> Has the FCC ever granted waivers to the separation tables in
> situations like KFNC and KIOL?
>
> Musically I like a good amount of music on KIOL, but the
> oldies are being over played, especially when there is more
> than a few songs that were big hits by many groups/artists
> that KIOL is playing to death. They need to branch out and
> play all the hits, not just a few. KIOL has a huge library
> of music to pull from and you shouldn't hear the same oldie
> more than once every other day.
>
> I am disappointed, I foolishly had hoped that when KIOL went
> from 97.5 to 103.7 that the Imaging would improve and the
> music list would expand and more new music would be played.
> Just call me a dumbass for thinking anything was going to
> change. I hope that Fletch will make some drastic changes
> to the Imaging of KIOL, it sure needs to be done.
>
> Mike O
>


I agree totally with your second to last paragraph there Mike O, I am not saying I do not like the older stuff, its really good stuff, but its the same 5 bands and the same 2-3 songs from those bands, and its over and over. I have no problem with a 70s-2005 rock playlist, I just want more variety. I will listen more carefully to be sure, but I do believe I've heard atleast 3 songs in a row from 70s/early 80s before either a commercial or something more recent. I am not a pissed off "slipknot" fan, I just was hoping for a bit more variety...

loon
 
> > > > Man...the playlist so far today on KIOL has
> blown...not
> > to
> > > > mention the signal inside my building. If they are
> > trying to
> > > > get me to go check out 97.5 news, its working, nice
> > signal,
> > > > interesting talk. But no no, they screwed that up too,
>
> > what
> > > > the hell is going on when Wendy Miller is
> > talking/rapping to
> > > > the tune of a Gwen Stefani song trying to get us to
> > follow
> > > > her to 103.7....I mean come on...she sounds like a
> crack
> >
> > > > fiend...
> > > >
> > > > I surely hope this Fletch everyone speaks highly of
> > makes
> > > > the fill good enough that its worth sitting through
> > another
> > > > round of the same 70's music we've heard for that last
> 7
> >
> > > > years just to hear what he does next, heh.
> > > >
> > > > Its just sad, its like KIOL isn't even trying. I
> thought
> >
> > > > 93.7 had this genre pretty well covered....SEND HELP,
> > THE
> > > > SHIP IS SINKING!@#!@#
> > > >
> > >
> > > We can refer you to a nice substance abuse location, if
> > you
> > > like.
> > >
> > > Seriously, I noticed the 103.7 signal go completely off
> a
> > > couple of times. But I don't have any complaints about
> > the
> > > music. I guess the "all Slipknot, all the time" crowd
> is
> > > pi$$ed off.
> > >
> > I have noticed KIOL 103.7 go off the air a few times and
> > they have definiitly dropped the power for a short time on
>
> > numberous occasions. The Engineers are still tweaking
> KIOL
> > for the maximum signal into Houston. The problem is KIOL
> is
> > a rimshot, licensed to LaPorte or not, the signal is is a
> > little over 65 miles from the Senior Road antenna farm.
> The
> > station is always going to have the problems that a
> rimshot
> > into Houston has faced. There is no changing the physics
> of
> > FM and distance and power and antenna height.
> >
> > KFNC is going to be a very good station, except being on
> > 97.5 gives them little hope of success with the poor
> signal
> > on the road, forget about inside highrises. It is a
> shame,
> > Houston needs a station like KFNC to shake up the Clear
> > Channel KTRH and KPRC Talkers. It might even cause CC to
> > bring the news back to KTRH. Unless a miracle happens and
>
> > people put up with the usually bad signal of KFNC on the
> > road and the station starts to draw some ratings in three
> > months, I don't see CC being overly concerned.
> >
> > The other problem is the tropo has been brutal this summer
>
> > and totaly wipes out KFNC and even KIOL. If someone turns
>
> > to KFNC for news and talk and gets Country instead from
> > Corpus Christi, chances are they will not be back at 97.5
> > again.
> >
> > I know CW said "the separation tables will be revised when
>
> > I'm in hell wearing snow shoes" and I'm sure he is 100%
> > correct. CW I do not want your demise, but could you
> > arrange a few hour visit to hell and bring a Buffalo
> > blizzard with you? Then return back home safe and sound
> and
> > have those separation tables changed?
> >
> > Has the FCC ever granted waivers to the separation tables
> in
> > situations like KFNC and KIOL?
> >
> > Musically I like a good amount of music on KIOL, but the
> > oldies are being over played, especially when there is
> more
> > than a few songs that were big hits by many groups/artists
>
> > that KIOL is playing to death. They need to branch out
> and
> > play all the hits, not just a few. KIOL has a huge
> library
> > of music to pull from and you shouldn't hear the same
> oldie
> > more than once every other day.
> >
> > I am disappointed, I foolishly had hoped that when KIOL
> went
> > from 97.5 to 103.7 that the Imaging would improve and the
> > music list would expand and more new music would be
> played.
> > Just call me a dumbass for thinking anything was going to
> > change. I hope that Fletch will make some drastic changes
>
> > to the Imaging of KIOL, it sure needs to be done.
> >
> > Mike O
> >
>
>
> I agree totally with your second to last paragraph there
> Mike O, I am not saying I do not like the older stuff, its
> really good stuff, but its the same 5 bands and the same 2-3
> songs from those bands, and its over and over. I have no
> problem with a 70s-2005 rock playlist, I just want more
> variety. I will listen more carefully to be sure, but I do
> believe I've heard atleast 3 songs in a row from 70s/early
> 80s before either a commercial or something more recent. I
> am not a pissed off "slipknot" fan, I just was hoping for a
> bit more variety...
>
> loon
>

To any radio programers that might be reading this board. WE REALLY ARE TIRED OF HEARING STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN, ANY SONG BY THE ROLLING STONES, AND GASP, EVEN ZZ TOP!!! No offence to any of those great bands I just listed but come on! I have the CD and it's sitting in a box in one of my closets somewhere, if I ever feel like hearing "i'm just looking for some tush" for the 157869039089084586984900 time I will dig through my boxes find the cd's, dust them off, and listen to them then. I personally have not heard a Slipknot song, but from what I hear they are really good, but I wouldn't know, because i have to suffer through a 30 year old Rush song, followed by a a 45 year Led Zepplin song!!!!!! Ooohhh and on more thing can I hear Pink Floyd's "comfortably numb" during my drive home from work so I can fall a sleep at the wheel and slam into a tree? Please??
 
> I agree totally with your second to last paragraph there
> Mike O, I am not saying I do not like the older stuff, its
> really good stuff, but its the same 5 bands and the same 2-3
> songs from those bands, and its over and over. I have no
> problem with a 70s-2005 rock playlist, I just want more
> variety. I will listen more carefully to be sure, but I do
> believe I've heard atleast 3 songs in a row from 70s/early
> 80s before either a commercial or something more recent. I
> am not a pissed off "slipknot" fan, I just was hoping for a
> bit more variety...
>
> loon
>

I still think the key is to daypart KIOL. I have no problem with hearing "Kashmir" or some of the 70's/80's artists and songs that still fit on 2005 Rock Radio. There is enough library material from the 70's and 80's (AC/DC, Van Halen, Dio, Iron Maiden, Scorpions) that KKRW either won't play or provides "lip service" by playing periodically and KIOL can own the Slipknot, Godsmack, Disturbed, genre of today that KTBZ doesn't play with a huge amount of frequency.One of the aspects that made KLOL a great radio station for years was how they presented the music. I heard KLOL at night on an E-skip while in Ohio in 1990 and heard Journey, Jude Cole, The Cars, Warrant and ZZ Top. It flowed together well and it was the only time good rock music was heard on the radio in SW Ohio. While one can't argue that KIOL on a rimshot signal has done almost as well as KLOL did from a Missouri City stick at the end of the KLOL AOR days; I would hope that Rock 103.7 has more in store for Houston. Rock 103.7 is not part of a "rock wall" that cannot infringe on a Classic Rock or Alternative clustermate; KIOL can and should play the artists that fit an AOR station in 2005 and take a chance on new bands (Day of Fire, Porcupine Tree, Dark New Day) that Rock 103.7 can claim and show that Rock 103.7 is not only a byproduct of a once glorious past, but something of the present and with a future.

dlf
 
>
> To any radio programers that might be reading this board. WE
> REALLY ARE TIRED OF HEARING STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN, ANY SONG BY
> THE ROLLING STONES, AND GASP, EVEN ZZ TOP!!! No offence to
> any of those great bands I just listed but come on! I have
> the CD and it's sitting in a box in one of my closets
> somewhere, if I ever feel like hearing "i'm just looking for
> some tush" for the 157869039089084586984900 time I will dig
> through my boxes find the cd's, dust them off, and listen to
> them then. I personally have not heard a Slipknot song, but
> from what I hear they are really good, but I wouldn't know,
> because i have to suffer through a 30 year old Rush song,
> followed by a a 45 year Led Zepplin song!!!!!! Ooohhh and on
> more thing can I hear Pink Floyd's "comfortably numb" during
> my drive home from work so I can fall a sleep at the wheel
> and slam into a tree? Please??
>


LOL!!!! Excellent way to make your point! I concur! Also, they could try some songs that are old that aren't worn out. There is plenty of great songs by Hendrix, ZZ Top, Stones, U2, Neil Young, The Who, etc, that are not worn out and would sound very fresh today.

KPFT (90.1) the other day played a Hendrix song recorded live in 1969 in Hawaii that sounded so bad ass I couldn't believe it.
 
> > I agree totally with your second to last paragraph there
> > Mike O, I am not saying I do not like the older stuff, its
> > really good stuff, but its the same 5 bands and the same 2-3
> > songs from those bands, and its over and over. I have no
> > problem with a 70s-2005 rock playlist, I just want more
> > variety. I will listen more carefully to be sure, but I do
> > believe I've heard atleast 3 songs in a row from 70s/early
> > 80s before either a commercial or something more recent. I
> > am not a pissed off "slipknot" fan, I just was hoping for a
> > bit more variety...
> >
> > loon
> >
>
> I still think the key is to daypart KIOL. I have no problem
> with hearing "Kashmir" or some of the 70's/80's artists and
> songs that still fit on 2005 Rock Radio. There is enough
> library material from the 70's and 80's (AC/DC, Van Halen,
> Dio, Iron Maiden, Scorpions) that KKRW either won't play or
> provides "lip service" by playing periodically and KIOL can
> own the Slipknot, Godsmack, Disturbed, genre of today that
> KTBZ doesn't play with a huge amount of frequency.One of the
> aspects that made KLOL a great radio station for years was
> how they presented the music. I heard KLOL at night on an
> E-skip while in Ohio in 1990 and heard Journey, Jude Cole,
> The Cars, Warrant and ZZ Top. It flowed together well and it
> was the only time good rock music was heard on the radio in
> SW Ohio. While one can't argue that KIOL on a rimshot
> signal has done almost as well as KLOL did from a Missouri
> City stick at the end of the KLOL AOR days; I would hope
> that Rock 103.7 has more in store for Houston. Rock 103.7 is
> not part of a "rock wall" that cannot infringe on a Classic
> Rock or Alternative clustermate; KIOL can and should play
> the artists that fit an AOR station in 2005 and take a
> chance on new bands (Day of Fire, Porcupine Tree, Dark New
> Day) that Rock 103.7 can claim and show that Rock 103.7 is
> not only a byproduct of a once glorious past, but something
> of the present and with a future.
>
> dlf
>
dlf, very well stated! I hope that the powers that be at KIOL, like Pat Fant glance at this board and see your post. KIOL could be a great station with the right changes and rival the glory days of KLOL and 97 Rock KSRR. Rock 1037 has the air personalities from 5:30am to 7pm and needs to fill in the the 7pm to 5:30am with some great air talent.

Outlaw Dave has a great show, and I really enjoy Wendy Miller, I know that there have been posts that she is not very good, but I find her show so not major market that it is just what a major market needs and I have acquired a taste for Walton & Johnson and like their show.

KIOL is a station that I have been looking for, personality radio and not a jutebox after 10am. I like Wendy because she comes out with some real off the wall comments, that probably would not be heard in most major markets, but I think that is what makes her show major market material. I hope she keeps her show the way it is now. It is great to have a station that has real Air Talent and talks to the audience. A few less songs per hour is worth hearing their comments.

If they can find someone with the talent that Outlaw Dave has for 7pm to 12:00am and then a real AOR station of the 70's except with plenty of todays music all night would be a be a good way for KIOL to go. Laid back and some what irrelative and even more adult orientated, they are in the "safe harbor" where the songs don't have to be censored, which I hate. The air personality could be more free to say what he or she wants to without running a foul of the FCC.

Mike O
 
> To any radio programers that might be reading this board. WE
> REALLY ARE TIRED OF HEARING STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN, ANY SONG BY
> THE ROLLING STONES, AND GASP, EVEN ZZ TOP!!! No offence to
> any of those great bands I just listed but come on! I have
> the CD and it's sitting in a box in one of my closets
> somewhere, if I ever feel like hearing "i'm just looking for
> some tush" for the 157869039089084586984900 time I will dig
> through my boxes find the cd's, dust them off, and listen to
> them then. I personally have not heard a Slipknot song, but
> from what I hear they are really good, but I wouldn't know,
> because i have to suffer through a 30 year old Rush song,
> followed by a a 45 year Led Zepplin song!!!!!! Ooohhh and on
> more thing can I hear Pink Floyd's "comfortably numb" during
> my drive home from work so I can fall a sleep at the wheel
> and slam into a tree? Please??
>
You forgot Kansas "Carry on Wayward Son", Red Rider "Lunatic Fringe",
Billy Thorpe "Children of the Sun", Golden Earring "Twilight Zone" and "Radar Love", and there are a lot more that need to be canned. They also play too much Tom Petty!

SW
 
> > > I agree totally with your second to last paragraph there
>
> > > Mike O, I am not saying I do not like the older stuff,
> its
> > > really good stuff, but its the same 5 bands and the same
> 2-3
> > > songs from those bands, and its over and over. I have no
>
> > > problem with a 70s-2005 rock playlist, I just want more
> > > variety. I will listen more carefully to be sure, but I
> do
> > > believe I've heard atleast 3 songs in a row from
> 70s/early
> > > 80s before either a commercial or something more recent.
> I
> > > am not a pissed off "slipknot" fan, I just was hoping
> for a
> > > bit more variety...
> > >
> > > loon
> > >
> >
> > I still think the key is to daypart KIOL. I have no
> problem
> > with hearing "Kashmir" or some of the 70's/80's artists
> and
> > songs that still fit on 2005 Rock Radio. There is enough
> > library material from the 70's and 80's (AC/DC, Van Halen,
>
> > Dio, Iron Maiden, Scorpions) that KKRW either won't play
> or
> > provides "lip service" by playing periodically and KIOL
> can
> > own the Slipknot, Godsmack, Disturbed, genre of today that
>
> > KTBZ doesn't play with a huge amount of frequency.One of
> the
> > aspects that made KLOL a great radio station for years was
>
> > how they presented the music. I heard KLOL at night on an
> > E-skip while in Ohio in 1990 and heard Journey, Jude Cole,
>
> > The Cars, Warrant and ZZ Top. It flowed together well and
> it
> > was the only time good rock music was heard on the radio
> in
> > SW Ohio. While one can't argue that KIOL on a rimshot
> > signal has done almost as well as KLOL did from a Missouri
>
> > City stick at the end of the KLOL AOR days; I would hope
> > that Rock 103.7 has more in store for Houston. Rock 103.7
> is
> > not part of a "rock wall" that cannot infringe on a
> Classic
> > Rock or Alternative clustermate; KIOL can and should play
> > the artists that fit an AOR station in 2005 and take a
> > chance on new bands (Day of Fire, Porcupine Tree, Dark New
>
> > Day) that Rock 103.7 can claim and show that Rock 103.7 is
>
> > not only a byproduct of a once glorious past, but
> something
> > of the present and with a future.
> >
> > dlf
> >
> dlf, very well stated! I hope that the powers that be at
> KIOL, like Pat Fant glance at this board and see your post.
> KIOL could be a great station with the right changes and
> rival the glory days of KLOL and 97 Rock KSRR. Rock 1037
> has the air personalities from 5:30am to 7pm and needs to
> fill in the the 7pm to 5:30am with some great air talent.
>
> Outlaw Dave has a great show, and I really enjoy Wendy
> Miller, I know that there have been posts that she is not
> very good, but I find her show so not major market that it
> is just what a major market needs and I have acquired a
> taste for Walton & Johnson and like their show.
>
> KIOL is a station that I have been looking for, personality
> radio and not a jutebox after 10am. I like Wendy because
> she comes out with some real off the wall comments, that
> probably would not be heard in most major markets, but I
> think that is what makes her show major market material. I
> hope she keeps her show the way it is now. It is great to
> have a station that has real Air Talent and talks to the
> audience. A few less songs per hour is worth hearing their
> comments.
>
> If they can find someone with the talent that Outlaw Dave
> has for 7pm to 12:00am and then a real AOR station of the
> 70's except with plenty of todays music all night would be a
> be a good way for KIOL to go. Laid back and some what
> irrelative and even more adult orientated, they are in the
> "safe harbor" where the songs don't have to be censored,
> which I hate. The air personality could be more free to say
> what he or she wants to without running a foul of the FCC.
>
> Mike O
>


I to like Wendy Miller, I hope I didn't come off as not liking her with my original post, I just think that promo pushing 103.7 running on 97.5 with her almost "rapping" was a wee bit too much. I too enjoy (and listen faithfully to) W&J (proud 10%'er), and do like Wendy and OD, its just their playlist I have an issue with currently. I think dlf indeed said it better than I ever could have.

loon
 
I could be wrong (God knows it's happened a couple of times), but as KIOL builds an audience, I think their playlist will grow. As the new kid on the block, they have to establish themselves. I think that is why you are hearing a lot of the "big" hits by core Rock artists. I'm sure once they have established themselves, the playlist will grow into deeper tracks and possibly skewer into some Active Rock later in the day, nights, and overnights.

I would hope that is the game plan. It's the whole crawl, before you walk issue. KIOL had a nice Arbitrend share on the rimshot signal 97.5. So, I think once the audience realizes they are on a better signal at 103.7 and the station starts picking up in shares, CUME, and TSL, you will hear playlist tweaking... deeper tracks, Active Rock, etc.

I'm willing to give them a grace period, and if they don't make changes, you and I and the rest of the people who are tired of the "Stairway To Heaven" and "Flying High Again" songs can crawl back into our CD collections, XM/Sirius tuners, and let KIOL sink into failure, as its predecesor did. <P ID="signature">______________
KVIL Highland Park
KVIL-FM Highland Park/Dallas-Fort Worth
Thanks for the memories Ron Chapman!</P>
 
> I could be wrong (God knows it's happened a couple of
> times), but as KIOL builds an audience, I think their
> playlist will grow. As the new kid on the block, they have
> to establish themselves. I think that is why you are
> hearing a lot of the "big" hits by core Rock artists. I'm
> sure once they have established themselves, the playlist
> will grow into deeper tracks and possibly skewer into some
> Active Rock later in the day, nights, and overnights.
>
> I'm willing to give them a grace period, and if they don't
> make changes, you and I and the rest of the people who are
> tired of the "Stairway To Heaven" and "Flying High Again"
> songs can crawl back into our CD collections, XM/Sirius
> tuners, and let KIOL sink into failure, as its predecesor
> did.
>
Snoman,
I think you are wrong and I say this because I'm a firm believer that you come out with all your guns firing, especially being a rimshot and all. This whole situation has been pieced together slowly and I think it's stupid. It's not to say that they can't change the playlist, or do other creative things, but we all have been posting about this subject for three months or so.

I don't think Pat Fant has any intentions of changing the playlist, or doing anything that is suggested on this board. The only thing that comes to mind as far as them changing would be if their ratings are in the toilet and they try to do something to salvage the format.

I guess I'm just pesimistic about the whole thing.

SW
(sidenote): If Cox or Clear Channel ever change one of their stations to a Rock/Active Rock format, then KIOL is finished and you can take that all the way to the bank!
 
Shortwave has something there. It seems like in today's fast paced society you would come out with your guns blazing, but at the same time they didn't have a lot of time considering KLOL went off in Nov. and KIOL came on in Jan. and as we know they were working more on KFNC.

SW, I also agree with the Cox and CC statement. Both of those companies have good active rock stations in other markets and if things stayed the same at KIOL - they could give new meaning to the call letters "Kill It Or Lose."


> (sidenote): If Cox or Clear Channel ever change one of their
> stations to a Rock/Active Rock format, then KIOL is finished
> and you can take that all the way to the bank!
>
 
>
> > (sidenote): If Cox or Clear Channel ever change one of
> their
> > stations to a Rock/Active Rock format, then KIOL is
> finished
> > and you can take that all the way to the bank!
> >
>

I agree with the above statement, but I am not going to cast KIOL into the abyss yet. As I have stated in previous posts about KIOL, I think they should have started fresh with a younger, more Active sounding approach, but they didn't ask me, so I have to play with the hand I've been dealt. If KIOL is still doing the same thing they are doing now, three months from now, I will be calling for the head of Pat Fant and the folks at Cumulus radio.

Shortwave, I'm not saying what Cumulus and Pat Fant are doing is right, and it is not the approach I would have taken, but I'm just trying to tell you what I think they are doing. I've seen it done before. Like I said, I don't agree with it either, but I guess we either live with it, or we don't listen at all.<P ID="signature">______________
KVIL Highland Park
KVIL-FM Highland Park/Dallas-Fort Worth
Thanks for the memories Ron Chapman!</P>
 
> >
> > > (sidenote): If Cox or Clear Channel ever change one of
> > their
> > > stations to a Rock/Active Rock format, then KIOL is
> > finished
> > > and you can take that all the way to the bank!
> > >
> >
>
> I agree with the above statement, but I am not going to cast
> KIOL into the abyss yet. As I have stated in previous posts
> about KIOL, I think they should have started fresh with a
> younger, more Active sounding approach, but they didn't ask
> me, so I have to play with the hand I've been dealt. If
> KIOL is still doing the same thing they are doing now, three
> months from now, I will be calling for the head of Pat Fant
> and the folks at Cumulus radio.
>
> Shortwave, I'm not saying what Cumulus and Pat Fant are
> doing is right, and it is not the approach I would have
> taken, but I'm just trying to tell you what I think they are
> doing. I've seen it done before. Like I said, I don't
> agree with it either, but I guess we either live with it, or
> we don't listen at all.

I listened to KIOL a lot in the past two days and loved it!
Despite signal issues in the 4 o' clock hour, this station really gave me some hope.
Unfortunately I don't think any of you want true rock variety.
If KIOL played every band you have mentioned, somebody would post and bitch and complain about how they don't want to hear ZZ Top ruin their damn Godsmack. It's a problem with rock listeners. They're picky these days.

Top 40? easy. "Hollaback Girl." Sweet, says the 18 year old. "Yeah." Sweet says another 19 year old. "Let Me Go." Nice says a 14 year old.

However take a Stones song and there will be 20 different reactions--from "this sucks" to "man I haven't heard this in a while."

KIOL has thankfully increased their currents--Foo Fighters, Audioslave, new Seether, Alterbridge, Papa Roach, 3 Doors Down, Chevelle, Submersed--not great yet, but a good start.

Heard "owner of a lonely heart" by Yes a few days ago. I know some of you might puke when you hear this band, but I was thrilled to hear them on the radio again. KKRW rarely plays them anymore.

KIOL could turn out to be a really good station--if they run a more active playlist in the later hours and keep adding currents.

I love the all request hour--best in Houston by far. It beats the pathetic "nooner" on KTBZ and TRL on KRBE. 90% of what gets played can be heard at any other time of the day.

KIOL at least is playing some oddities and rarities. I requested a tune the other day--a hard to find--and they played it.

Do we really need to hear "Mr. Brightside" during the ****ing all-request hour??
The whole concept of radio is to play often the songs that people most want to hear. You can hear this song 10 times a day.

On the flipside, I requested songs three times this week at different times on KTBZ--all before the 12:00. One day at 11:25 am.
They played none. Their answer--we just couldn't fit it in. This after I requested a song before Chris Rice even announced he was taking calls. Then I got my second one in on a different day right after he got the signal.

10,000 Maniacs, Rage Against The Machine, Deftones--stuff you never get to hear.

What did they end up playing during those all-request hours??
Crossfade "cold." Killers "mr. Brightside." Peppers "give it away."

****ing kill me please. This is ridiculous. KIOL could solve this problem with some work.
 
> Shortwave, I'm not saying what Cumulus and Pat Fant are
> doing is right, and it is not the approach I would have
> taken, but I'm just trying to tell you what I think they are
> doing. I've seen it done before. Like I said, I don't
> agree with it either, but I guess we either live with it, or
> we don't listen at all.
>
Hey Sno....after I posted, I thought maybe I was to direct with my answer.
I didnt mean to call you wrong. It kinda sounded weird, so I hope I didn't
offend you.

I think in general, KIOL doesn't suck, but I know at least some of us are
disappointed that is more of a rehash of KLOL instead of being a little more fresh.

SW

Time will tell as it always does!
 
> I listened to KIOL a lot in the past two days and loved it!
> Despite signal issues in the 4 o' clock hour, this station
> really gave me some hope.
> Unfortunately I don't think any of you want true rock
> variety.
> If KIOL played every band you have mentioned, somebody would
> post and bitch and complain about how they don't want to
> hear ZZ Top ruin their damn Godsmack. It's a problem with
> rock listeners. They're picky these days.
>
> ****ing kill me please. This is ridiculous. KIOL could solve
> this problem with some work.
>
.............................................................................
I can't believe what I'm reading........Slater loves KIOL. I had to read your post 3 times to take it all in.

Just kidding, but I don't think everyone has a problem with the Stones or ZZ
necessarily, it's just the same 3 or 4 songs all the time. I can understand if it's a band that has only 2 hits, but the a lot of these bands have albums cuts that are just as well known. That what I mean by variety.

I do have a problem with KIOL. A lot of the classic rock they play just doesn't fit in my opinion. Whoever it is that programming George Thourgood should be tortured for a week straight. Yes is not a KIOL band and neither should Kansas.
This is a rock station.....if their gonna rock with the old school, then they to play bands that rock. Golden Earring does not rock.

They need to rock it like Z-Rock would do it. This station is a classic rock station for the most part. I just don't buy into the fact of trying to please everyone with all the music that they play. I really don't want to hear the currents that they play, but I don't want to hear Heart either. If there going to go this route, then why aren't they playing Bob Seger and the Allman Brothers? It's the same crap as Lynyrd Skynyrd and Molly Hatchet which they do play. And just to clarify...Tom Petty doesn't rock!

I will stop typing because I'm rambling, but I think this programming is schitzophrenic in a bad way and I have a real hard time with it.

This station doesn't rock and that's the fact...and this has nothing to do with Godsmack or Active Rock.

SW
 
> > I listened to KIOL a lot in the past two days and loved
> it!
> > Despite signal issues in the 4 o' clock hour, this station
>
> > really gave me some hope.
> > Unfortunately I don't think any of you want true rock
> > variety.
> > If KIOL played every band you have mentioned, somebody
> would
> > post and bitch and complain about how they don't want to
> > hear ZZ Top ruin their damn Godsmack. It's a problem with
> > rock listeners. They're picky these days.
> >
> > ****ing kill me please. This is ridiculous. KIOL could
> solve
> > this problem with some work.
> >
.................> ............................................................
>
> I can't believe what I'm reading........Slater loves KIOL. I
> had to read your post 3 times to take it all in.
>
> Just kidding, but I don't think everyone has a problem with
> the Stones or ZZ
> necessarily, it's just the same 3 or 4 songs all the time. I
> can understand if it's a band that has only 2 hits, but the
> a lot of these bands have albums cuts that are just as well
> known. That what I mean by variety.
>
> I do have a problem with KIOL. A lot of the classic rock
> they play just doesn't fit in my opinion. Whoever it is that
> programming George Thourgood should be tortured for a week
> straight. Yes is not a KIOL band and neither should Kansas.
> This is a rock station.....if their gonna rock with the old
> school, then they to play bands that rock. Golden Earring
> does not rock.
>
> They need to rock it like Z-Rock would do it. This station
> is a classic rock station for the most part. I just don't
> buy into the fact of trying to please everyone with all the
> music that they play. I really don't want to hear the
> currents that they play, but I don't want to hear Heart
> either. If there going to go this route, then why aren't
> they playing Bob Seger and the Allman Brothers? It's the
> same crap as Lynyrd Skynyrd and Molly Hatchet which they do
> play. And just to clarify...Tom Petty doesn't rock!
>
> I will stop typing because I'm rambling, but I think this
> programming is schitzophrenic in a bad way and I have a real
> hard time with it.
>
> This station doesn't rock and that's the fact...and this has
> nothing to do with Godsmack or Active Rock.
>
> SW
>

I agree with both you guys. It sounds like the old playlist have made it to KIOL. Thorogood-Bad to the Bone, Ozzy w/ Primus. but you do hear stuff KLOL stopped playing - Stones, Yes, Petty. I can see 1 or 2 hours a night focussing on the new stuff.

and requests for the Buzz are jokes. Vince doesn't want to play any gold, stay with the hits and recurrents. how about Clash - London Calling or Cure -10:15 Saturday Night?? or even the new New Order no way.

I'm still waiting for the fallout. maybe the Point will flip since it has a beter signal.
 
> > > I listened to KIOL a lot in the past two days and loved it!
> > > Despite signal issues in the 4 o' clock hour, this station
> > > really gave me some hope.
> > > Unfortunately I don't think any of you want true rock
> > > variety.
> > > If KIOL played every band you have mentioned, somebody would
> > > post and bitch and complain about how they don't want to
> > > hear ZZ Top ruin their damn Godsmack. It's a problem with
> > > rock listeners. They're picky these days.
> > >
> > > ****ing kill me please. This is ridiculous. KIOL could solve
> > > this problem with some work.
> > >
> .................>
> ............................................................
>
> >
> > I can't believe what I'm reading........Slater loves KIOL. I
> > had to read your post 3 times to take it all in.
> > Just kidding, but I don't think everyone has a problem with
> > the Stones or ZZ necessarily, it's just the same 3 or 4 songs
> > all the time. I can understand if it's a band that has only
> > 2 hits, but the a lot of these bands have albums cuts that are
> > just as well known. That what I mean by variety.
> >
> > I do have a problem with KIOL. A lot of the classic rock
> > they play just doesn't fit in my opinion. Whoever it is that
> > programming George Thourgood should be tortured for a week
> > straight. Yes is not a KIOL band and neither should Kansas.
> > This is a rock station.....if their gonna rock with the old
> > school, then they to play bands that rock. Golden Earring
> > does not rock.
> >
> > They need to rock it like Z-Rock would do it. This station
> > is a classic rock station for the most part. I just don't
> > buy into the fact of trying to please everyone with all the
> > music that they play. I really don't want to hear the
> > currents that they play, but I don't want to hear Heart
> > either. If there going to go this route, then why aren't
> > they playing Bob Seger and the Allman Brothers? It's the
> > same crap as Lynyrd Skynyrd and Molly Hatchet which they do
> > play. And just to clarify...Tom Petty doesn't rock!
> >
> > I will stop typing because I'm rambling, but I think this
> > programming is schitzophrenic in a bad way and I have a real
> > hard time with it.
> >
> > This station doesn't rock and that's the fact...and the has
> > nothing to do with Godsmack or Active Rock.
> >
> > SW
> >
>
> I agree with both you guys. It sounds like the old playlist
> have made it to KIOL. Thorogood-Bad to the Bone, Ozzy w/
> Primus. but you do hear stuff KLOL stopped playing - Stones,
> Yes, Petty. I can see 1 or 2 hours a night focussing on the
> new stuff.
>
> and requests for the Buzz are jokes. Vince doesn't want to
> play any gold, stay with the hits and recurrents. how about
> Clash - London Calling or Cure -10:15 Saturday Night?? or
> even the new New Order no way.
>
> I'm still waiting for the fallout. maybe the Point will
> flip since it has a beter signal.
>
Slater you ****ing kill me! Just when I think it can't get any better, you do.
Shortwave you mentioned Z Rock, now there was a station I loved. Since they went off the air, I was definitely in the minority. There is a lot of merit in what has been written, but since it's Friday and I don't have to work on anything I care about, I am going to get fried and will see if there are any brain cells left Saturday to read it all again. KIOL has taken too damn long to get its' act together. Maybe they don't know what their act even is, but hire a full staff, get some freaking imaging that doesn't make me puke. Give me the pleasure to strangle the guy that is doing the voice overs.

There is two things that KIOL is missing that KLOL in it's glory days and 97 Rock had - balls. I know the FCC Gestapo makes it more difficult, even W&J seem like they are walking on egg shells. I'd love to hear them do a show after 10pm when they could say whatever they wanted to, even if only once.

Have a good day, I have to try some purple and orange pills with some that I don't remember what they are for anymore.

Mike O
 
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