someone's just asking for controversy

[spongebag7890]

Wanna know what P!nk's thirdradio single is? Dear Mr. President.

www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/pink/dearmrpresident.html

Not sure what she was thinking... It's an okay track but for a single?

But then again, look at Britney Spears's Toxic.....

 

[jcolletta275]

I don't really see how Toxic can be related to this track, but okay...

Putting my political beliefs aside, it's hard to say based on lyrics how well this would do. On one hand, most people I know are turned off by politically-charged music... and that's been especially true in the mainstream CHR audience for a while now. At the same time, though, I'd bet a good majority of the CHR demographic would lean this way in their political beliefs, so it could possibly do well.

At this point, I just can't call it one way or another.

 

[The-Major]

"Toxic" was Britney Spears' comeback smash (if you will). On the other hand ...

Pink is struggling to regain the success that she once had on the pop charts and on the radio. "Stupid Girls" was a crash and burn failure. "Who Knew" is peaking / stalling just shy of the TOP 40. I actually like "Who Knew" (the few times that I've heard it). It's got a cool 1980s retro rock sound to it. It's like she's channeling Joan Jett. I haven't heard the 3RD single yet so I'll reserve comment on it for later.

Putting my political beliefs aside, it's hard to say based on lyrics how well this would do. On one hand, most people I know are turned off by politically-charged music... and that's been especially true in the mainstream CHR audience for a while now. At the same time, though, I'd bet a good majority of the CHR demographic would lean this way in their political beliefs ...

I pretty much agree with you on all accounts. As for myself - a CHR-POP fan - I am in the minority as far as my political affiliation. Having put that on the record I generally don't listen to the lyrics of songs on the radio. If it's got a good melody and beat and it sounds good on the radio then it's all good. The Black Eyed Peas' "Where Is The Love" was a brilliant song (despite its lyrics).

THE MAJOR

 

[CHRprogrammer]

Kudos to her for the lyrics. I have not yet heard the record, so I'll hold off on judgement. Although, I am of the age that I agree 100% with the lyrics.

 

[jcolletta275]

Major, is that the minority among CHR/Pop fans, or the minority as a whole?

As for me, I'm in the minority among CHR/Pop fans.

By the way, I enjoyed both Stupid Girls and Who Knew. She performed Who Knew on Today this morning. It was interesting to watch, though... here were all these people who were supposedly huge Pink fans, standing out there in Rockefeller Plaza to hear her perform, and when she did, they hardly seemed to be into it at all. It was kinda depressing.

 

[The-Major]

Major, is that the minority among CHR/Pop fans, or the minority as a whole?
As for me, I'm in the minority among CHR/Pop fans.

In a recent post you stated that most people you know are turned off by politically-charged music ... (That's me too.) ... and that it's been especially true in the mainstream CHR audience for awhile now. (I agree with that.) Then you stated that you think that a good majority of the CHR demographic would lean this way in their political beliefs (referring to Pink's new single). (I agree with your statement too, but that puts me in the minority among CHR-POP fans. I couldn't disagree with her lyrics more.)

By the way, I enjoyed both Stupid Girls and Who Knew. She performed Who Knew on Today this morning. It was interesting to watch, though... here were all these people who were supposedly huge Pink fans, standing out there in Rockefeller Plaza to hear her perform, and when she did, they hardly seemed to be into it at all. It was kinda depressing.

Despite the quirkiness of "Who Knew" I think that Pink has made a long series of career blunders over her past several albums.

THE MAJOR

 

[jcolletta275]

In a recent post you stated that most people you know are turned off by politically-charged music ... (That's me too.) ... and that it's been especially true in the mainstream CHR audience for awhile now. (I agree with that.) Then you stated that you think that a good majority of the CHR demographic would lean this way in their political beliefs (referring to Pink's new single). (I agree with your statement too, but that puts me in the minority among CHR-POP fans. I couldn't disagree with her lyrics more.)

Okay, that's what I thought... I just wasn't clear (I was working on less than two hours of sleep when I read that). I'm in that same minority, and I disagree with the lyrics as well.

Despite the quirkiness of "Who Knew" I think that Pink has made a long series of career blunders over her past several albums.

I'd have to agree, though it's been interesting to me that those blunders have held back individual tracks as much as they have. A lot of good songs from those albums have been either underplayed or overlooked altogether... more than I think I've seen with most other artists.

Probably the biggest problem for her is her move away from the mainstream pop sound (and look). Whatever happened to the "Most Girls", "There You Go" and "You Make Me Sick" sounds? Obviously the exact style those songs were done in are a bit outdated today, but we have corresponding pop sounds that she could just as easily use. Going for the grungier, "bad girl" style both in her music and in her look, in my opnion, doesn't help her.

I think she's realized that to some extent... she dolled herself up pretty nicely for Today.

 

[STEALINGyourAUDIENCEgirl]

In my opinion, Pink sucks. They lyrics arent that great but hey, I always give credit to people whom are pro America but against G.W.

 

[jaxxalude]

Last time I checked, Missundaztood was her most successful album to date AND the one which brought her biggest AND most recognizable songs in her career. Meaning? It was exactly when she started to bring rock elements to her music that she really started to run from the pack and make an impression on her own, and people responded to that. And that her next album, Try This, didn't match the sales of Missundaztood, even though it didn't take much to be released AND followed on the predecessor's formula I can only attribute to one of the poorest choices for first single ever made, in the guise of "Trouble".
Trust me, if she followed the same formula as the first album, we wouldn't even be discussing her recent failures, because she wouldn't even have a career by now.

 

[jcolletta275]

I'm not so sure of that. Look at where Kelly Clarkson is right now. Look at Mariah Carey's comeback. Two different genres of music, neither leaning toward the edgy rock sound, and yet they're both on top of their game. Pink has chosen to stay with the same sound her last album had, and she's bombing.

Like Justin Timberlake said in a recent article written about his new album, you have to reinvent yourself to stay on top in this business. Pink reinvented herself once to lean toward the edge, and it worked. She didn't move on with this album, and that decision is failing her.

It's not the single, it's the sound.