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Something I didn't know about the "Heidi Bowl"

B

bpatrick

CBS's missing the end of the Kansas-Ohio State game Saturday
night brought back memories of the "Heidi Bowl" on NBC in 1968.
Today I received the TV Guide for Atlanta for that week in '68
and discovered that Birmingham was not the only city where the
Jets-Raiders game and "Heidi" were on different channels.

At the time WSB/2 was the NBC affiliate but never carried the
late game of an AFL doubleheader; instead, then-ABC affiliate
WQXI (WXIA)/11 picked it up, so it was 11 that was carrying
the Jets-Raiders game, and with "Heidi" scheduled for 7 PM on 2 (11 carried "Land
Of The Giants"), I don't know if those first few minutes of "Heidi" aired
on both stations.

In fact, I don't remember WSB carrying both games of a Sunday-afternoon
doubleheader until 1973.
 
According to the Wikipedia account of the Heidi Game, the network formerly closed out of the game before it ended, then gave a minute station break for its affiliates before starting Heidi in earnest. Chances are when WQXI got noticed that NBC's coverage of the game has indeed ended, it went right on with its own schedule. Though of course, WSB had some explaining to do when viewers saw a ticker on-screen about a game that the station did not show.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi_Game
 
azumanga said:
According to the Wikipedia account of the Heidi Game, the network formerly closed out of the game before it ended, then gave a minute station break for its affiliates before starting Heidi in earnest. Chances are when WQXI got noticed that NBC's coverage of the game has indeed ended, it went right on with its own schedule. Though of course, WSB had some explaining to do when viewers saw a ticker on-screen about a game that the station did not show.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi_Game
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"Formerly" or "formally"? Remember your spelling, as those are two entirely different words. I am sure you meant the latter.
 
From the wiki article...

In subsequent television contracts, the merged NFL required language which obligated the networks to show games to completion in the road team's television market.[44] In 1975, NBC planned to run the heavily promoted children's film Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory at 7 p.m., right after a game between the Raiders and Washington Redskins. The game went into overtime, but NBC stayed with the game for almost 45 minutes despite angry calls from parents.

Today programming starts in its entirety following the game. Back then they dead rolled programming by starting the program on time and after the game was over the program was joined in progress. I was one of the many eight year olds that missed the first 45 minutes of Willy Wonka and was properly pissed.
 
ixnay said:
bpatrick, what *did* WSB air on late Sunday afternoons in the fall in the late '60s/early '70s?

ixnay
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Movies, local news, and (from 6:30-7:30) reruns, first of "Kraft Suspense Theatre"
(just called "Suspense Theatre"), then of "Big Valley" in the 1971-72 season. When
the access rule prohibited off-network reruns at 7 in the fall of '72, Ch. 2 carried
Lawrence Welk 6:30-7:30.
 
My brother-in-law lives in Germany, and he says that Heidi Bowl is
just about the best toilet cleaning product on the market over there.
 
FreddyE1977 said:
My brother-in-law lives in Germany, and he says that Heidi Bowl is
just about the best toilet cleaning product on the market over there.
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Boy, that one was bad. I mean, SUPER-bad (James Brown).
 
radiorob2.0 said:
From the wiki article...

In subsequent television contracts, the merged NFL required language which obligated the networks to show games to completion in the road team's television market.[44] In 1975, NBC planned to run the heavily promoted children's film Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory at 7 p.m., right after a game between the Raiders and Washington Redskins. The game went into overtime, but NBC stayed with the game for almost 45 minutes despite angry calls from parents.

Today programming starts in its entirety following the game. Back then they dead rolled programming by starting the program on time and after the game was over the program was joined in progress. I was one of the many eight year olds that missed the first 45 minutes of Willy Wonka and was properly pissed.
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This killed Futurama, it would too frequently be joined in progress. They don't join 60 minutes in progress
 
nomadcowatbk said:
radiorob2.0 said:
From the wiki article...

In subsequent television contracts, the merged NFL required language which obligated the networks to show games to completion in the road team's television market.[44] In 1975, NBC planned to run the heavily promoted children's film Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory at 7 p.m., right after a game between the Raiders and Washington Redskins. The game went into overtime, but NBC stayed with the game for almost 45 minutes despite angry calls from parents.

Today programming starts in its entirety following the game. Back then they dead rolled programming by starting the program on time and after the game was over the program was joined in progress. I was one of the many eight year olds that missed the first 45 minutes of Willy Wonka and was properly pissed.
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This killed Futurama, it would too frequently be joined in progress. They don't join 60 minutes in progress
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That's why Fox starter running The OT to fill the remaining time until 8 PM ET, which is what CBS needs to do as well. They should push 60 Minutes back to 8, and run one less program during the football season.
 
The "Heidi Bowl" was not nationally televised; in addition to being blacked out in Oakland/San Francisco, there were two other regional games in that time slot:

AFL Week 11
11/17:
Bengals-Dolphins, 1:30, NBC, Charlie Jones, George Ratterman
Chargers-Bills, 1:30, NBC, Jim Simpson, Kyle Rote
Patriots-Chiefs, 4, NBC, Jay Randolph, Chris Burford
Broncos-Oilers, 4, NBC, Bill Enis, Elmer Angsman
Jets-Raiders (a.k.a. The Heidi Game), 4, NBC, Curt Gowdy, Al De Rogatis

Source: http://www.the506.com/smf/index.php?topic=3047.0
 
And in case of the 1:00PM game, sometimes toward the end of a game, they will have a disclaimer that most regions will break away for the start of the 4:00PM game while the rest of the country will join the 4PM game in progress. For example if there a close game at 1PM and Detroit and San Diego is playing at 4, Detroit and San Diego will go to their game first before the rest of the network.
 
cowboybud said:
The "Heidi Bowl" was not nationally televised; in addition to being blacked out in Oakland/San Francisco,
there were two other regional games in that time slot:
Patriots-Chiefs, 4, NBC, Jay Randolph, Chris Burford
Broncos-Oilers, 4, NBC, Bill Enis, Elmer Angsman
Jets-Raiders (a.k.a. The Heidi Game), 4, NBC, Curt Gowdy, Al De Rogatis[/i]
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But the Jets game was in in NYC, and that's all that counts! ;)
 
I rememeber a game on CBS when FSU tried a fake punt, and it fooled CBS, since they were showing a replay. But Brent Musburger reacted when he saw that FSU was running a fake, so he wasn't fooled. There was a cameraman from WLOS/13 that captured it in full, and he wasn't fooled either! I saw it on WLOS/13 after the Miami/Michigan game from ABC.
 
I remember one time in 1991 when WSPA/7 aired a Dodgers/Braves game after a rain delay, when it was supposed to be only Atlanta that was to get the game. But there were several CBS stations in the south that did that too. The New York Times mentions that..."In a mini-mutiny, an unspecified number of Southeastern stations virtually ignored their agreement not to ignore the network's desires and stayed with the game until the Braves' winning run scored in the 11th inning...."
 
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