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Something Ive been thinking about or discovered

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Finally I have a computer so I can pick on those who constantly rub their crystal ball of radio. I've been thinking and or discovered:Internet radio has a certain percentage of listeners compared to terrestrial radio we know of today. If some genius figures how to make internet radio available in automobiles, Pathetic formats like HV has on WTFM will go in the toilet. My reasoning: I've been listening to WCBS-FM New York's HD 1 signal on this computer for the past week and I LOVE IT! These guys after changing formats several times have gone back to oldies from the 60's through the 80's by overwhelming request from there listeners.... Yes, it 's the Big Apple,the no.! market in the country,no comparison to the Tri-Cities or Knoxville market when all we have now is Rap and country and sorry CHR/Country crossovers for Adult Contemporary. I dont want to hear about Cume and Time Spent Listening when this and that market have brainwashed their listeners into thinking their format is better and making money from it when its all the same.....Some of us 40 something like the 60's thru the 80's because when its done right it works....Even the internet stations with no affiliation sound better. Sorry guys, I ve had enough of the post-teen virginal Taylor Swift/Kelly Clarkson/Fergie crap they call music today....Who said that, I said that and no I'm not Robert D. Raiford on the John Boy & Billy Big Show.... Sorry if I sound P.O.:D I think I saw a post a while back who stuck with hi internet stream. I'm with ya pal.... :-[
 
controlboard1 said:
They do have internet streaming radios for automobiles. Local Radio will soon be gone.
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Do you actually think "local radio" will ever go away? That's ludicrous. There is zero chance of local radio ever going away. If anything local radio stations will be given the gift of "must carry" much like local television once and if any actual non-terrestrial radio syndication begins.

But, that's a loooooooooong way off. We most likely won't live to see that.
 
controlboard1 said:
They do have internet streaming radios for automobiles. Local Radio will soon be gone.
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The Cell Companies will have to invest mage billion$$ into their networks for this to happen. Even AT&T has done away with the unlimited package with the I Phones. The Cell companies have been able to handle expaneded call volume slick digital compression "4G" but they are going to have to start spending major dollars for new cell towers to "fill" in between existing towers to make "smaller" cells soon. With the NIMBY's and educated site owners the days of the "$100 a month sites", are gone. The "free" price of radio will insure a future.
 
Local radio will go away right after VHS kills local TV.
 
And how many web stations can provide timely local content? Or put out a calendar with local babes that appear at local bars in skimpy outfits?
 
Tennessee Cowboy said:
And how many web stations can provide timely local content? Or put out a calendar with local babes that appear at local bars in skimpy outfits?
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Or do an EAS alert for Oakdale and Ozone?
 
Didn't know they had auto radios to live streaming. I thought we would have to be at or beyond Star Trek TNG to do that. Hey guys I'm listening to Radio Caroline,internet stream in tribute of the ship which the movie "Pirate Radio" was based on. Not a bad format. Sounds a little like college radio. The jock even has a british accent.
 
I actually do think that internet radio & streaming are probably the future. I think it's mainly just a matter of the wireless companies stepping up & beefing up their networks to handle it. Just look at the population age 40 & younger; they spend little time with local broadcasting & stream & download the majority of their content. Heck, I stream radio from other markets & around the world on my iPhone all the time at work (way more than I ever listen to local media).

Also, I think the argument that "local content" will save radio is really not an argument at all for younger audiences. If we need local news, weather, alerts, etc., we can get them easily & more quickly via smartphones & utilities like twitter, facebook, & RSS.
 
BRH said:
I actually do think that internet radio & streaming are probably the future. I think it's mainly just a matter of the wireless companies stepping up & beefing up their networks to handle it. Just look at the population age 40 & younger; they spend little time with local broadcasting & stream & download the majority of their content. Heck, I stream radio from other markets & around the world on my iPhone all the time at work (way more than I ever listen to local media).

Also, I think the argument that "local content" will save radio is really not an argument at all for younger audiences. If we need local news, weather, alerts, etc., we can get them easily & more quickly via smartphones & utilities like twitter, facebook, & RSS.
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I agree that local content is of no interest to people under a certain age. Celine Dion on an iPod is no different from Celine Dion on the radio or streaming from your computer.

And the most likely 20 year old audience for radio will be the ones too poor for a player, too lazy to accumulate a library, or too addicted to new music to wait until everyone else is talking about it. Local content for a younger audience would include an ad for the hippest watering hole, or the best opportunity to meet other kids.

Local content for an older person would include the latest stupid thing done by our elected officials, the latest weather, or the price of the early bird special down at the IHOP.

Costs are rising at the newspaper. More people are starting to get that news online. TV news costs money to make, and the extent of life experience is her ongoing battle with acne. For radio to die, the laws of economics have to pass through two larger and more cumbersome media (mediums?) first. A radio ND can go down to City Hall and interview the mayor with a cell phone if necessary. Live. No crew. No tons of news print. No tons of makeup to cover that pimple. Scott Majors would still wear a ball cap to cover his bald spot, though. That's about all he'd need for his on air prep.
 
And how else are you going to get an up to date traffic report from Pete?
 
I think the poster doubting the future of local radio and predicting an explosion of wireless internet radio in car stereos, etc.. lives in the Tri Cities market, where radio quality in general reflects what you might expect out of a market in the #100s. With the exception of their CHR station WAEZ, which sounds really good.
 
Tennessee Cowboy said:
Local radio will go away right after VHS kills local TV.
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That reminds me of something I read once that said something like "They said that banning cigarette advertising would kill television - 100 billion dollars and 300 channels ago."
 
Internet Radio in cars won't be reality until cheap, unlimited, really fast cellular data service is available to everyone and the RIAA and SoundExchange die and go away and take MusicFirst with them. Big Cable and Big Telecom are keeping high speed too expensive and capped for too many people, doubly so in rural areas.
 
I see where the topic that always comes up in these discussions has appeared: Local Content.

Radio has demonstrated that a large audience is music entric. It matters not whether I live in the Tri Cities, Atlanta or East Seedtick, OK.... Celine Dione sounds the same whether it comes from WCBS or the local station. Home town music stations have much to concern themselves with if Internet-delivered-radio streaming does become big.

It may be a smaller audience, but there are people who want current local information and news when they go audio. Even if you are THE ONLY radio station doing local information and news in your market, it can be hard to stand out and become a dominant biller. (Yes, there are exceptions. I worked for one in the past.)

But once Internet based radio becomes affordable and dependable in the car and in portable devices in your pocket or clipped to your belt, I would predict that it will become a very, very rugged market for hometown music-only stations. But we don't know yet what the pricing structure will be long term to have streaming Internet in the car and in your pocket. Too many vendors in the market place has kept the price low, so far. Now that the national market is about to become only two or three players, don't look for bargain data rates to be the norm.
 
My thinking on internet radio is the same as cable TV and satellite radio: If I have to pay a fee every month that'll go to subsidising a bunch of channels I don't want, forget it.
 
Local radio may just be doomed, but if the operators can become wise rapidly the landscape might just be as vibrant tomorrow as it was twenty years ago.

Will that happen? Not likely. Most local operators are too focused on what isn't working to focus on what will work.
 
boogiecheck said:
Local radio may just be doomed, but if the operators can become wise rapidly the landscape might just be as vibrant tomorrow as it was twenty years ago.

Will that happen? Not likely. Most local operators are too focused on what isn't working to focus on what will work.
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Leaders always catch a few arrows in their backs. First guy to make money with the ideas the others are laughing at will win. Then they'll copy him and say they're doing it smarter.
 
My favorite two stations in Knoxville are both locally owned with live local DJ's. They are AM 850 and FM 105.3. They have vastly different formats, but I like the music on both (I can tolerate most types of music with the exception of rap, opera and classical). AM 850 has greatly expanded their playlist since they started the country oldies format, and both stations have programs giving exposure to local artists. A tio of the hat to both stations!
 
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